Critical Agility - Critical Defenses - Death Blossom - Moebius Strike.
anyone starting to get sick of this combo, i some times play it if it adds to the teams success but im guessing that 8/10 of assassin use this build most of the time. I seems that pugs expect you to be running this build, if you dont you get the old sin hate. I could promise this is going to be hit so hard with a nerf bat it will be unrecognizable.
Sooner that happends the better.
Whats your opinion of this build whether you love or hate.
lets keep it flame free
is anyone getting sick of...
Mr Slashalot
silv3rr
Critical Agility + Critical Defense go very well together... throw in Critcal eye and well... yea. Moebius and DB can be replaced but it's just THAT useful in PvE. And I doubt ANet will nerf one of the most effective assassin combinations based on PvE.
Stormlord Alex
Wait, wait... you're pissed that Assassins are using the strongest build available to them?
I wished I could be pissed every Warrior was spamming Dragon Slash and "Save Yourselves!"
I wished I could be pissed every Warrior was spamming Dragon Slash and "Save Yourselves!"
Bobby2
Indeed. No matter how much I curse at them, those darn Wars and Paras just won't remove SY! from their bar! OUTRAGEOUS!
African War Lord
that's just how this game is designed man. It's like the real world, you have your powerful few that are in control and the rest of us are useless.
street peddler
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that's just how this game is designed man. It's like the real world, you have your powerful few that are in control and the rest of us are useless.
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Sqube
In other words, do I have a problem with a set of skills that allows for the following:
- Constant 33% IAS
- Constant 75% blocking
- Quality AoE DPS
No, I don't have a problem with that at all. There are other builds that can be run in PvE, and they'll certainly be viable, but this build just kicks ass and chews bubble gum.
It's like being mad because your job pays you so well or something. I don't understand the problem.
- Constant 33% IAS
- Constant 75% blocking
- Quality AoE DPS
No, I don't have a problem with that at all. There are other builds that can be run in PvE, and they'll certainly be viable, but this build just kicks ass and chews bubble gum.
It's like being mad because your job pays you so well or something. I don't understand the problem.
Bowstring Badass
I use Way of the Assassin in Pve because my attack chain is unblockable except for my dual which I am only meant to remove stances from the end boss... Stupid Insectoid Scythe won't drop....
Tyla
ill like to see the old W/Mo mending,dolyak sig,healing hands,healing breeze combo to end too...and besides,moebus strike+db>pve,and i dont even need self heal/prot on my sin kthx
Diddy bow
its pve, it wont get nerfed 
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When i play anything else in pve now i realise how sucky it is, and i just fell a bit usless playing anything else in comparison.
.When i play anything else in pve now i realise how sucky it is, and i just fell a bit usless playing anything else in comparison.
Cebe
I find any build gets boring / samey if I overplay it - but I have no problem with other players using it...why should I? It's not as though Critical Agility can be misused outside of PvE.
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its pve, it wont get nerfed .
No, it'll get "balanced" .
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No, it'll get "balanced" .
SotiCoto
Poor little Slashalot.
Have the Moebius DB sins made your Warrior redundant?
Hear that sound?
That is the world's smallest violin... playing just for you.
As for me? I'll just stick with my Critical Moebius Death-Blossom spamming, because.... y'know what? ... That build is sex.
Have the Moebius DB sins made your Warrior redundant?
Hear that sound?
That is the world's smallest violin... playing just for you.
As for me? I'll just stick with my Critical Moebius Death-Blossom spamming, because.... y'know what? ... That build is sex.
Mr Slashalot
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Have the Moebius DB sins made your Warrior redundant?
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Hear that sound?
please tell me its the sound of the world's smallest violin slowly dieing out
I seen post with people asking for build help and people just telling them to use this one like its the only build of there. Im not saying it a bad build but does every assassin in the game have to use it and its not every Warrior uses Dragon Slash/SY. Tyla
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That build is sex
^exactly why its being used^
fleshharvest
I've never used it. I'd rather do a solo kill in 3-5 secs than spamming db on a group. However, I may have to when I start vanquishing Cantha
 . Damn expel hexes.I use: Critical Agility - Assassins Promise - Dark Prison [or expose defenses, depends on where I'm at] - Black Lotus - Twisting - Black Spider - Blades of Steel - Any type of rez It's incredibly efficient. However, I'm sure it's gonna be picked to death by "pve elitests" [lmao]. Tyla
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I've never used it. I'd rather do a solo kill in 3-5 secs than spamming db on a group. However, I may have to when I start vanquishing Cantha
. Damn expel hexes.I use: Critical Agility - Assassins Promise - Dark Prison [or expose defenses, depends on where I'm at] - Black Lotus - Twisting - Black Spider - Blades of Steel - Any type of rez It's incredibly efficient. However, I'm sure it's gonna be picked to death by "pve elitests" [lmao]. assasins promise on pve enemies is also sex since they die so easily 
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assasins promise on pve enemies is also sex since they die so easily
Yeah, it's amazing that you can spike out a lvl 24 monk monster with the help of just a SF ele hero lol.
Sqube
Critical Agility
GPS --> DB --> Moebius --> TF --> HotO --> CS --> Rez Run that build with Zealous or Vampiric 15^50 daggers. Good times. Happy? You don't have to spam DB at all. You can deep wound, knock down, energy management... everything you need. Plus a rez, unless you don't want a rez, in which case you could throw Way of Perfection on there to try to give your monks some relief.
Mr Slashalot
i like to use Assassin's Promise / Shadow Walk / Attack Chain / Dash / Res
not tryed it with Critical Agility but i will and see how it is
princess of teddys
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Wait, wait... you're pissed that Assassins are using the strongest build available to them?
I wished I could be pissed every Warrior was spamming Dragon Slash and "Save Yourselves!" Is that auto? its annoying
L.J
I'm not really sick of it so to say, but it is very effective just abit over used. I try to mix it up with my sin abit now when I play. Critical agility and Critical defences are in almost all my builds though, they are just 2 good not to have in there.
Marverick
[skill]Assassin's Promise[/skill][skill]Death's Charge[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Black Lotus Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]Black Spider Strike[/skill][skill]Signet of Toxic Shock[/skill][skill]Impale[/skill]
If you're that sick of Moebius > DB then you can run this. Not as much sustainable DPS but you get to shadowstep all over the place so the overall damage may come quite close as you don't have to worry about walking to targets and stuff. Also you don't have to worry about enchantment removal (you do about hex removal though...) unlike Moebius builds that mostly use Golden Phoenix Strike, and depend on their enchantments (Crit Agility/Defenses) to survive and deal damage. [skill]Golden Fox Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Shattering Assault[/skill] isn't bad to run on a support 'sin. It has nowhere near the damage of Moebius > DB but if enemy Monks are spamming Shield of Deflection/Aegis and stuff everywhere, your Moebius > DB 'sin isn't really going to do anything.
ensoriki
Theres always.....
Locust Fury critical agility, Conjure lightning >.> Critical eye And have necro throw up orders and monk judges insight uh oh here comes the flames *runs*
Stormlord Alex
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And have necro throw up orders and monk judges insight
Conjures, orders and JI won't stack.
I win.
moko
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Theres always.....
Locust Fury critical agility, Conjure lightning >.> Critical eye And have necro throw up orders and monk judges insight uh oh here comes the flames *runs* prooving that you have no idea as always. O_o
Sakura Az
Mobious+deathblossom is sooooo nice in pve, i usualy start it off with golden fox strike, and then swap out the off hand depending on where i am, either for deep wound fir golden fang or wild strike to take out stances, sometimes i'll go distupring stab and exasuting assualt to start it out. i wish there was another pve combo that gave me the survivabiltiy and constant damage that the critical mobious DB +mystic regen does..
with crit agility and golden fang strike for the off hand you can kill the master of damage in about 5-6 seconds. other builds that work in pve.. the unblock able chain with shattering assualt is nice for the asura areas or places with lots of protective enchantments, ie earth ele's, prot monks, dervishes. other than that.. other builds do work, but they don't provide nearly the self preservation that your monks will thank you for (unless your in a place with crazy enchant removal, like predition rock, only place that has been a problem with those builds) crucifix
why the hell are you complaining about a build that makes having a sin in your party worthwhile? See we keep forgetting that sins suck(ed) in party play pretty bad before the moebius update. Now, we have sins dealing aoe burst damage while probably succeeding in out damaging a lot of eles. plus, you can keep doing the combo forever, eles run outta energy!
also note that baddies run less from the aoe damage from death blossom than they do sustained aoe damage from spells like MS, savannah, and searing heat. So as far as cluster control is concerned, id rather have a moebius sin run in to take agro and kill shit. about that shattering assault bar: throw impale on there. that is the single best sin bar ever to be introduced into the game (pvp wise) that thing is effin unstoppable.
Ben-A-BoO
This build got my sin his level 2 indomitable survivor still counting ...
Anymore questions?
LaserLight
I play a Deadly Arts-based Promise spike cannon in PvE. Most people who hear that for the first time scream in horror and try to kick me off Guild Wars altogether because I'm not running Moebius Blossom. Which I don't typically run because using PvE-Only skills irks me. Hm hm...but the few guys who do keep me around find themselves shocked at how rapidly I can stab my way through enemy hordes. It's easy, really - cast Promise, spike someone's face, then recast Promise and spike someone else's face.
I don't follow the whole "Moebius Blossom is the only possible way for an Assassin to do anything in PvE!!" buzz. Does that mean the build is bad? No. Does it mean that I hate it? No. Well, I kinda do, but for other reasons. What it means is that to some of us, being absolutely locked into ONE build is kinda like having an iron collar two sizes too small around our necks. Kinda like how Necromancers in PvE had better be Minion Masters - OR ELSE. Or how Elementalists had better be Searing Flames spam - OR ELSE. Sometimes it's just a matter of wanting to run what you think is fun and different, instead of being forced by general peer pressure into running the one, single build that the game considers viable. Yes, I get it, running that one single build makes putting together pugs much easier...but doesn't it ever get bloody boring?
ensoriki
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prooving that you have no idea as always. O_o
Note, *runs* >.>.
John Panda
To be honest.. their isn't a good reason not to spam death blossom.
high adjacent damage constantly doesn't really get any better.
Magikarp
i got legensary survivor with db spam, and when crit agi came out, it was even easier.
this isnt something even worth changing.. and its good. i mix it up with a similar build maverick uses, but i still use db spam for almost everything else.
fireflyry
The only thing I'm sick of is PuG's expecting me to always run it.I used to enjoy pugging with builds other than the MS-->DB cookie cutter, now I can't be bothered even trying.
Thank god for guildies. Is it teh sex....yes. Are there other viable PvE builds....yes.
Bobby2
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Is it teh sex....yes.
Are there other viable PvE builds....yes. Those other viable builds tend to get you no further than the front door. I'll settle for sex.
Sir Pandra Pierva
Mine got me into marrage<_<>_>
fireflyry
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Those other viable builds tend to get you no further than the front door. I'll settle for sex.
Haha.Fair call.I completed all 3 campaigns without ever using MS-->DB.It's easily done, just outside the square. Personally I have nothing against the power of good old MS-->DB spam...I just don't buy games to repeatedly press 2 buttons and it's a pity that the classes most powerful and popular combo is so mind-numbingly boring to play and use in-game. Oh well. |
