Most Undervalued Memser Skill?

Dodo The Extinct

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Me/Rt

31 Oct 2007 at 01:09 - 1

What Mesmer skill do you guys think deserves more attention? Personally, I would say

PvP: Enchanters Conoundrum. I've been using this skill in RA and I've been fairly impressed with it. If you leave it on a monk, their Guardian is bait and it takes more time to cast the precious skills to keep them ticking. But, the fun comes when you Shatter their enchants, and then smash them with Shatter Delusions! 180 damage, armour ignoring spike

. In gvg, I can see this having less uses, but this skill is just too much fun for me to leave alone

PvE: Arcane Conoundrum. This skill slows caster-mobs really well. I love it.

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/Me

31 Oct 2007 at 01:13 - 2

Ether Fiest: yea I know but I don't see many "human" players actually carry this thinking the monk has got your back 100% of the time.

Illusion of Pain: has its uses in finishing off an opponent quick

Ineptitude: hmmm...142 armour ignoring dmge, and blindness for 10 sec, yes plz!
I think illusion mesmers probably carry this a lot, just there isn't many illusion mesmers in the first place though.

Utaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Paris, France

We eat pancakes [Yumy]

Me/

31 Oct 2007 at 06:41 - 3

Ineptitude mesmers are pretty common in GvG nowadays.

I like phanton pain a lot to spike in pve, but I guess it's just too slow and obvious for a competitive environment.

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

31 Oct 2007 at 10:02 - 4

Blackout, Blackout, Blackout!
Even if it gets used - it doesn't get used enough.

It's basically one of the most insane skills in the game.

joemanstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Los Angeles

Lost N Found [失蹤港人]

R/Me

31 Oct 2007 at 10:11 - 5

Power Block, Power Flux, Psychic Distraction

The 3 elites most used by me, I don't know if they're undervalued or not.

Dean Harper

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

The Killer Clan Musketeers [TKCM]

Me/E

31 Oct 2007 at 14:09 - 6

[skill]Ignorance[/skill]
[skill]Complicate[/skill]
[skill]Arcane Conundrum[/skill]
[skill]Enchanter's Conundrum[/skill]
[skill]Symbols of Inspiration[/skill]

Sheriff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Heroic Order of Tyria

R/W

31 Oct 2007 at 15:39 - 7

Signet of Illusions. It's so good I sometimes wonder why not all mesmers use it!

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

31 Oct 2007 at 19:07 - 8

Because not all mesmers have gotten that far in NF.

Phantom of the Opera

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Me/

31 Oct 2007 at 21:39 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Because not all mesmers have gotten that far in NF. Hmm... 3k FB + Elite Tome can do the miracle

Estic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mongoose United

01 Nov 2007 at 08:22 - 10

Fevered Dreams.

If you can Daze/Blind/Weaken/Cripple/Poison/Bleed/Disease and crack the armor of every monster in a group... that's a big win!

Although I will admit it became useful only after the introduction of heroes. Getting three persons in a PuG changing their build and follow your orders is quite hard to do.

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

01 Nov 2007 at 09:46 - 11

That's so tough for me to answer.
Eeeeeeee...I'm just gonna say Signet of Illusions as well.
In PvE at least. All you need is max FC and Illusion and any 7 spells you want to bring, your secondary's primary spells, PvE only spells, 7 spells from 7 different attributes. Whatever!
It's crazy fun.

joemanstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Los Angeles

Lost N Found [失蹤港人]

R/Me

01 Nov 2007 at 10:08 - 12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Estic
Fevered Dreams.

If you can Daze/Blind/Weaken/Cripple/Poison/Bleed/Disease and crack the armor of every monster in a group... that's a big win!

Although I will admit it became useful only after the introduction of heroes. Getting three persons in a PuG changing their build and follow your orders is quite hard to do. Not all monsters have effect with conditions, so it has limited use

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

D/W

01 Nov 2007 at 10:14 - 13

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier
Blackout, Blackout, Blackout!
Even if it gets used - it doesn't get used enough.

It's basically one of the most insane skills in the game. YES!!!!

Killing Shiro/Lich/Great Destroyer/Etc becomes millions of times easier with their skills locked down.

Echo Blackout Arcane Echo Blackout Blackout = Easy boss.

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

01 Nov 2007 at 11:36 - 14

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodo The Extinct
PvP: Enchanters Conoundrum. I've been using this skill in RA and I've been fairly impressed with it. If you leave it on a monk, their Guardian is bait and it takes more time to cast the precious skills to keep them ticking. But, the fun comes when you Shatter their enchants, and then smash them with Shatter Delusions! 180 damage, armour ignoring spike . I adored that combo for a long time. Not played it in a while, but if you use Shatter Enchantment on them before Delusions (assuming they only have one enchantment - but there's nothing to say you can't throw in Rend as well to make sure) you dish out 295 armor ignoring damage (at 15 Domination)!

Enchanter's Conundrum seems a little unloved, but then again, does seem to require a little "luck" sometimes.

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

01 Nov 2007 at 12:41 - 15

Fevered dreams I would say, it takes a little micro-ing but if you can drop a virulence, burning arrow or broadhead arrow on top of it it's fun times.

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

01 Nov 2007 at 17:02 - 16

Quote:
Originally Posted by joemanstar
Not all monsters have effect with conditions, so it has limited use Blind, Daze, Deep Wound, and Weakness effect everything I am pretty sure. If the whole entire group is suffering from them conditions, it should be a fairly easy fight.

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

01 Nov 2007 at 17:15 - 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sister Rosette
YES!!!!

Killing Shiro/Lich/Great Destroyer/Etc becomes millions of times easier with their skills locked down.

Echo Blackout Arcane Echo Blackout Blackout = Easy boss.
am, i think shiros skils cant be blocked by blackout

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

01 Nov 2007 at 17:23 - 18

undervalued? perhaps. however, it's oftentimes be better to improve than just simply appreciate.

so i dug up a video on youtube detailing exactly how to improve some of the mesmer skills we all love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e_FR60LfFc

NOTE: THIS IS A JOKE. DO NOT GET YOUR PANTIES TIED UP IN A KNOT OVER THIS!

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

01 Nov 2007 at 18:19 - 19

I know that video... The IW lightsaber is great, among other things

Personally, I think that Overload deserves a little more attention. Can make a very nice spike on a target when combined with Backfire.

Dodo The Extinct

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Me/Rt

01 Nov 2007 at 20:07 - 20

Quote:
Personally, I think that Overload deserves a little more attention. Can make a very nice spike on a target when combined with Backfire.
Cmon, Overload is like the Mesmer's version of Flare. It doesn't even inturrupt

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

01 Nov 2007 at 20:44 - 21

Quote:
Cmon, Overload is like the Mesmer's version of Flare. It doesn't even inturrupt Interruption isn't the only thing mesmers are good at doing. Besides - at 15 Domination, Overload hits for 70 armor ignoring damage when you time it right. Follow that with 140 armor ignoring damage from Backfire (at the same rank of domination magic). 210 damage in total, and by the time most monsters in normal mode are ready to cast another spell Overload has recharged and can be used again for another quick spike. It's possible to take down a level 24 caster monster in 7 seconds flat like that without any damage support from the rest of the party.

If you prefer to interrupt, that's your preference. And in many situations an interrupt is more important than a damage spike like this. But, Overload is still quite a powerful spell if deployed in the right places at the right times.

Dodo The Extinct

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Me/Rt

01 Nov 2007 at 21:58 - 22

Quote:
Interruption isn't the only thing mesmers are good at doing. Besides - at 15 Domination, Overload hits for 70 armor ignoring damage when you time it right. Follow that with 140 armor ignoring damage from Backfire (at the same rank of domination magic). 210 damage in total, and by the time most monsters in normal mode are ready to cast another spell Overload has recharged and can be used again for another quick spike. It's possible to take down a level 24 caster monster in 7 seconds flat like that without any damage support from the rest of the party. Oh, I was thinking PvP.