Ascending as W/Mo
auch
i already beat doppel ganger and im already legendary survivor *edit*
Stormlord Alex
16 Sword/Axe/Hammer mastery
Frenzy
C-Space, win.
WOOO!!! forge runner
Frenzy
C-Space, win.
WOOO!!! forge runner
auch
um im much lower lvl then him so he'd probally pwn me
angmar_nite
What level are you?
auch
atm lvl 13 im usually like lvl 2 when ascending but still im a survivor i need a safe build that will easily beat him
Stormlord Alex
Yeah, Frenzy is incredibly safe.
He uses it, you don't.
He uses it, you don't.
auch
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Yeah, Frenzy is incredibly safe.
He uses it, you don't. well how do i kill him only take frenzy and like ripostes? maybe he will attack me with axe and i use riposte
He uses it, you don't. well how do i kill him only take frenzy and like ripostes? maybe he will attack me with axe and i use riposte
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by auch
well how do i kill him only take frenzy and like ripostes? maybe he will attack me with axe and i use riposte
yeah, Ripostes are a safe bet too... Just checked, and his Riposte/Deadly Ripostes won't trigger on you.
Marty Silverblade
I'm not sure if this has been changed, but the doppelganger won't use health regeneration spells like [skill=text]Healing Breeze[/skill] unless he has health degeneration on him. Keep in mind that Deadly Riposte causes bleeding (health degen), so that'll probably stuff you up. You could just try it out though and see what happens. Just log off if things get tricky.
Winterclaw
Read this for tips.
Monique
Frenzy / Riposte / Deadly Riposte. Get in Melee range and use a Wand.
[DO NOT USE FRENZY, JUST WAND HIM / SPAM RIPOSTE AND DEADLY RIPOSTE.
[DO NOT USE FRENZY, JUST WAND HIM / SPAM RIPOSTE AND DEADLY RIPOSTE.
ヽ(??ー｀)ﾉ
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Originally Posted by Monique
Frenzy / Riposte / Deadly Riposte. Get in Melee range and use a Wand.
[DO NOT USE FRENZY, JUST WAND HIM / SPAM RIPOSTE AND DEADLY RIPOSTE. Riposte and Deadly Riposte requires a sword.
[DO NOT USE FRENZY, JUST WAND HIM / SPAM RIPOSTE AND DEADLY RIPOSTE. Riposte and Deadly Riposte requires a sword.
Age
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
I'm not sure if this has been changed, but the doppelganger won't use health regeneration spells like [skill=text]Healing Breeze[/skill] unless he has health degeneration on him. Keep in mind that Deadly Riposte causes bleeding (health degen), so that'll probably stuff you up. You could just try it out though and see what happens. Just log off if things get tricky.
No it still doesn't use healing breeze and don't forget about heealing signet with 0 points in tactics.Wanding it would be better might not get the bonus but woud stay alive.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Age
No it still doesn't use healing breeze and don't forget about heealing signet with 0 points in tactics.Wanding it would be better might not get the bonus but woud stay alive.
His attribute levels are set at 12, bringing Healsig just gives you another headache to battle through.
Age
His attributes are the same as yours and if you have 0 or 1 in tactics it won't heal well plus losing the -40 al along with frenzy.I got 2K for helping a hammer Warrior beat his that what I told him to do.I was on my Warrior and gave him the skill set up 3 hammer skill plus healsig and frenzy.
Strength 8
Hammer 12
Tactics 0
It attributes will be the same as yours.
Congrats on Beating it and reaching Legendary.
Strength 8
Hammer 12
Tactics 0
It attributes will be the same as yours.
Congrats on Beating it and reaching Legendary.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Age
His attributes are the same as yours
O Rly?
Ahem. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Ahem. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Kale Ironfist
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Originally Posted by Age
Even more so if you're frenzy/healsigging. Anyway, it has NEVER had the same attributes as you. IIRC, the doppelganger used to have 15 in all attributes before an update toned him down.
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If you get two hits in, or if the doppelganger is using Frenzy, you're going to outdamage the heal (the doppelganger doesn't seem to have 100 armor vs physical, need to check on that though). But yes, you're better off without giving the heal, since the net damage taken would be higher.|
Update - Thursday, November 10, 2005 *Slightly reduced the power of the Doppelganger creature.
iridescentfyre
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Originally Posted by Kale Ironfist
Just to add on to Stormlord Alexs' post. Healing Signet is absolutely useless when you're being beaten on. You're going to lose more health than you will gain.
He'll heal for 130 health at 12 Tactics. During the two seconds he casts it, you need to out-damage that 130 in order to make progress, and even so, you would've been better off not giving him a heal in the first place.
Age
I am not posting misinformation yet agian some ppl don't not know the trick to beat your dopple as a Warrior.I learned this from over at The Guild Hall and they always say put on your healsig and frenzy with 0 tactics.You don't not use the heal sig with 0 in tacics let the dopple use it or in or your Mirror Self as it does have the same attributes and armor level as you do.We all knew about that over at The Guild Hall maybe the 2 of you should read up on it again and not from gamewikis or GWwikis.
That is why it is also called beating your mirrorself.That Hammer Warrior didn't pm me for his 2k back it must of worked and I helped a Monk and it work for her/him.
iridescentfyre
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Originally Posted by Age
I am not posting misinformation yet agian some ppl don't not know the trick to beat your dopple as a Warrior.I learned this from over at The Guild Hall and they always say put on your healsig and frenzy with 0 tactics.You don't not use the heal sig with 0 in tacics let the dopple use it or in or your Mirror Self as it does have the same attributes and armor level as you do.We all knew about that over at The Guild Hall maybe the 2 of you should read up on it again and not from gamewikis or GWwikis.
I don't think you fully understand the meaning of Alex' screenshot. If the doppelganger used your attributes, its Ice Spear would hit for 10 damage. Instead it hit for 58 which is exactly how much it hits for at 12 Water Magic. The implication here is that if you bring Healing Signet along with 0 Tactics, your doppelganger gets it at 12 Tactics, thus giving him a 130hp heal.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Age
I am not posting misinformation yet agian some ppl don't not know the trick to beat your dopple as a Warrior.I learned this from over at The Guild Hall and they always say put on your healsig and frenzy with 0 tactics.You don't not use the heal sig with 0 in tacics let the dopple use it or in or your Mirror Self as it does have the same attributes and armor level as you do.We all knew about that over at The Guild Hall maybe the 2 of you should read up on it again and not from gamewikis or GWwikis.
That is why it is also called beating your mirrorself.That Hammer Warrior didn't pm me for his 2k back it must of worked and I helped a Monk and it work for her/him. Look at the screenshot. Not the Guild Hall. Not the Wikis. MY screenshot. What does that tell you? You are wrong. I am right. Goodnight.
Kale Ironfist
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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
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Originally Posted by age
and not from gamewikis or GWwikis.
Except you're relying on second-hand information which was PROVEN to be wrong. It was proven wrong a long time ago, and again just now, with the screenshot. The Doppelganger used to have 15 in every attribute, and was reduced to 12 (for balance reasons).
You can easily check by just bringing Healing Signet, and wailing on the doppelganger, and watch how much health he regains. It is definitely more than the ~40 you'd get if you had 0+ Tactics.
Age
Whatever I still don't see what the screenshot is saying atleast it got that hammer Warrior through it.I never did it that way with my Ele put all my attunements on and then flared it and wanded it.
I even used the heal sig back in 05 with sever,riposte and final thrust,heal sig and frenzy.
Kale Ironfist
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Originally Posted by Age
Whatever I still don't see what the screenshot is saying
You have said twice that the doppelganger uses YOUR attributes. The screenshot shows a ZERO attribute ICE SPEAR on the skill bar. The doppelganger is throwing out a TWELVE attribute ICE SPEAR at the elementalist.
If you still don't get that, you're a lost cause.
Age
I see it now must of been busy at work to notice.
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