WoW/GW - need some info

Exhonour

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Can i get sum info on WoW and Gw?
like in population/year ration

so wow has like 9mil players right in how many years? when did wow start?

and gw started when? how many does it have? 3mil?

Neo Nugget

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Guild Wars has 4 million copies sold, they haven't released how many actually play online at once though.

Exhonour

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Guild Wars has 4 million copies sold, they haven't released how many actually play online at once though.
o k thats one piece of info

Neo Nugget

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Exhonour
o k thats one piece of info
Oh and guildwars started in april of 2005 i believe. I haven't heard anything relating to age statistics of players officially though.

Exhonour

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Oh and guildwars started in april of 2005 i believe. I haven't heard anything relating to age statistics of players officially though.
sry i meant age as in the age of guild wars and wow, how long they been around

HawkofStorms

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WoW was around first.

One thing to keep in mind with WoW is that WoW's 9 million players is split amoung many different servers that run the game.
GW players are all on one server.

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It's also worth remembering that WoW is monthly subs whereas GW is buy once play 'forever'; as such I would imagine that GW has more casual players and yet boasts more value for money and has more players that may drop off for a while then come back.

WoW has been around longer, but I couldn't tell you by how much; I'm far too tight with my cash to fork out every month so never played it

GW has been around for about 2 and a half years now.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Exhonour
Can i get sum info on WoW and Gw?
like in population/year ration

so wow has like 9mil players right in how many years? when did wow start?

and gw started when? how many does it have? 3mil?
WoW is WAAAAAY diffrent from gw(I have a account)

Likes:

--->you can be elfs and not all human

--->you meet other lvls every town and in battle *with monsters*

--->Theres a good guy and bad guys

--->you can cook things and fish

Dislikes:

--->It takes ages to gain a lvl

--->very hard to understand the SMALL skills and spells

--->not a noobish game/takes ages to understand it all

--->Very bad graphics

--->The people are ugly and fat*no offence*

--->the quests are harder

ect...

I prefer gw for the main reason:

Its simple

Darcy

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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Facts:

WoW released Nov. 2004
Announced Feb 2007 that subscriptions had reached 8 million

GW released April 2005
Announced Aug 2007 that units sold had passed 4 million

Spike

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Fact

Blizzard have admited that figues they use are NOT REPEAT NOT the current number of players but the TOTAL number of people who have EVER played the game even if they only downloaded the trail version.

Opinion

Even the figures are the total number of people who ever played in anyway. I still think thier over inflated by quite a bit.

Omniclasm

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WoW has mounts... nuff said.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Fact

Blizzard have admited that figues they use are NOT REPEAT NOT the current number of players but the TOTAL number of people who have EVER played the game even if they only downloaded the trail version.

Opinion

Even the figures are the total number of people who ever played in anyway. I still think thier over inflated by quite a bit.
Actually the figures are around 9 million and they are for CURRENT players on WoW. They dont count trial or discontiued accounts.

Spike

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Actually the figures are around 9 million and they are for CURRENT players on WoW. They dont count trial or discontiued accounts.
No the figures are NOT for current players and yes they DO count everyone who has ever played in anyway.

If wow DID have 9 million active players then blizzard would be makeing (9*15) $135 million per month and $405 million per quater. Since its parent company took in only $282 milllion in the last quater i can find records for and blizzard only accounts for about half its earnings. Blizzard's takeings for that period were about $140 million all most a third of what it should be IF they had 9 million users.

So either blizzards parent company are engaged in a MASSIVE fraud or thier useing everyone whos ever played the game to try and con more people in to playing thier crappy game. Which do you think it is, bearing in mind. One option will land you in jail for a LONG time and the other is just a legal marketing ploy.

Dante the Warlord

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Well, just saying, not that i like WoW much, but it is pretty big. I have almost never seen Guild Wars on a top ten played list at any site. Im going to have to agree that at least 9 million players play WoW. I wish that every day we would have as many people online playing guildwars :-(.....

Darcy

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All companies present their sales figures in the most attractive light. No one wants to buy a product that isn't selling well.

Before thinking that the sales represent the quality of the game, keep in mind that WoW had a large fan base from the standalone versions that preceded the online one and took advantage of that in their well-developed marketing. GW started from scratch with an unknown game and took almost a year to reach one million units sold due to a lack of focused marketing.

Peter Panic

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i wont lie to u and say gw is way better so we get 1 more "recruit". their both good games, but both have their ups and downs
GUILD WARS:
1. level cap. this is a big deal because, if u know what youre doing, u can get a lvl 20 in ~2 days, getting u into higher level gameplay faster. less grind=more fun
2. graphics. im not saying the graphics in wow are worse, just different. way more cartooney and unrealistic. guild wars is more realistic and, imo, better
3. free. guild wars doesnt have a monthly fee, so u can play for a while, then take a break without having to feel pressured to play more.

keep in mind tho, their both good games. i personally like gw bc i dont have to spend 7-8 months on 1 char to get into high-level gameplay. i have 6-7 lvl 20 pve's and they all get playtime in elite areas of the game, and i havent been playing for like 3 years (ps, ik gws only been around for 2).

HawkofStorms

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
No the figures are NOT for current players and yes they DO count everyone who has ever played in anyway.

If wow DID have 9 million active players then blizzard would be makeing (9*15) $135 million per month and $405 million per quater. Since its parent company took in only $282 milllion in the last quater i can find records for and blizzard only accounts for about half its earnings. Blizzard's takeings for that period were about $140 million all most a third of what it should be IF they had 9 million users.

So either blizzards parent company are engaged in a MASSIVE fraud or thier useing everyone whos ever played the game to try and con more people in to playing thier crappy game. Which do you think it is, bearing in mind. One option will land you in jail for a LONG time and the other is just a legal marketing ploy.
Keep in mind that GW does the same thing. I bought NF, Factions, and the original GW and linked all my accounts. Techically, I'm three people (not a religious blasaphamy guys... I swear ). All companies have some way to inflate their sales figures.
The leason of course is... trust no one.

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Guild Wars HAS been in a top ten list. I'll find my magazine. (Don't raise your hopes. I can barely remember where I left it.) But I remember WoW being number 1 and GW being number 3.

WoW and GW are entirely different games indeed. From what I've played of WoW today, it seems to be more about roleplaying with different races, racial bonuses and living a seperate life.

GW is definitely more about being involved in a story and fighting wars to save the world. The story can be absolutely involving at times (Prophecies mainly) and there's no such thing as the best item that gives you a definite edge over another player.


If you're looking for getting a higher level to have an advantage over others, a rare sword that has a significant power over others and having control over different races, WoW is your best bet.

If you're looking for a strong story, items meaning nothing more than aesthetics and only your skill defining victory or failure, then GW is the game for you.

As for the whole argument of who has more people, it doesn't really sway personal preference when it comes to a game. I mean look at the thousands who played Pong.

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Guild Wars has been listed on the top ten games most hours played list that shows when I log on to xfire since it came out. It's somewhere around 5 or 6. WoW shows as 1. I would assume that is a decent indicator of how many people play it.

ElvisMerric

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
No the figures are NOT for current players and yes they DO count everyone who has ever played in anyway.
Quote:
IRVINE, Calif. – July 24, 2007 – Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. announced today that World of Warcraft®, its award-winning massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG), has reached a new milestone, with a player base now totaling more than 9 million subscribers worldwide...
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World of Warcraft's Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.
Not posted here before. Just so you know where I'm coming from. I am WoW gamer who has just returned to GW whilst taking a break from WoW. Blizzard haven't as you stated said they include all accounts. In fact in this press release they state the complete opposite.

Now I'm not as naive as to think the numbers aren't fudged some how, but I think a lot of people fail to realise how popular this game actually is.

Numbers like these don't include such things as people who have 2 accounts. My boss who is an avid MMO player always has 2 accounts (Inc. GW).

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there probably is somewhere around 9 million "active" accounts, but as to whether there are 9 million people playing. I really doubt it very much.

Christix

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WoW:

-long time to pass a level
-long time to find someone who doesn't do HM dungeons
(so, for new people, it's really hard to do dungeons in Nm in Wow now, because all guilds, guildies, etc have already stuff, reputations and don't want to spend more time in NM)
-HL people, for 90%, talks only about Karazhan
-Finish the whole game is nearly impossible (Illidan,...)
-comic graphics
-money spend in broken armors

GW

-easy to understand
-linear
-too quickly finished
-beautiful graphics
-no monthly fees
-presents at birthday, events,...

some people will say that there are a lot of young people in GW...There are a lot of old people in WoW but some of them believe they are God

There are good and bad points on each of these games...You'll better try each one and choose by yourself.
You'll see what kind of gameplay you want more

rotielover

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Having played both, there are things to like and dislike about both.

Likes in WoW:
  1. Open world - encourages more immersive experience. (Once I was walking by and saw a low level getting killed, and I helped them)
  2. Auction House -- woot!
  3. Email - you can send stuff, money, or play invites without receiver being online
  4. Stable - multiple pets FTW!

Dislikes in WoW:
  1. Grind - too much time needs to be invested to get to the "good stuff"
  2. Travel - OMG if i have to ride one more hippogriff.......
  3. Subscription fee - made me feel pressure to play to "get my money's worth". That makes the game a chore, not fun.
  4. Ninjas - Nothing worse than fighting your way to a chest only to have someone steal it before you can open it.

Likes in GW:
  1. Fast level - doesn't take too long to become powerful for any char
  2. Beautiful - I love sometimes just being a tourist
  3. Storyline - I liked the stories told for the most part.
  4. My stuff! - drops assigned so everyone gets a share.

Dislikes in GW:
  1. With henchies, heroes and elitist snobs, hard to get a group of real folks that want to have fun!
  2. No auction house -- cmon GW!!
  3. Too much pathing -- once in WoW, I swam up the coast for hours because I wanted to. You are very limited in where you can go in GW.

All in all, I stuck with GW because the dislikes are minor in comparison, and with WoW feeling like a chore, I didn't want to play it. GW you can pick up and put down and not be bored -- great for the casual gamer.

BTW = I didn't address PVP because I rarely PVP So there's my nickel's worth!

Azalyn

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There are a number of reasons I don't play WoW and prefer GW. I will give you two, the monthly fee and the fact that you always get some moron who will either steal from you or sit and wait on things to reanimate in farming.

No thanks. I would get too aggravated.

kai4321

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I used to play WoW and currently starting to get back on GW and I would say that if you can afford the monthly fees and enjoy playing for more time to get to the highest level then get it DEFINETLY. The main bad reasons about WoW is that you have to pay monthly but let me tell you this. GW makes money in another clever way. Say you want to make a solo farmer which after you get many lvl 20s you will probably start doing. To make the best you need skills from prophecies,factions,nf and maybe eye of the north. So it kind of depends how long you actually will play these games because both of them will probably make you spend quite a bit on them. WoW also has a WAY bigger map then GW and also a problem that I find with GW is if you don't have every GW game to play with friends on many different areas and stuff it gets boring after you get to lvl 20.

Spike

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElvisMerric
I guess what I'm trying to say is that there probably is somewhere around 9 million "active" accounts, but as to whether there are 9 million people playing. I really doubt it very much.
Try READING the rest of my previous post to see WHY wow does NOT have 9 million active accounts. Theres a big difference between claiming to have sold 4 million copies of a game and saying you have 9 million people paying you a sub each month when your quaterly records show otherwise.

If I could be bothered I would find the link to where blizzard admited to saying they DO included anyone whos ever played the game in the amount of people playing. This is why they now say the number of people that have entered the game not the amount of people playing. As for other reasons not to play the worst game I've ever played just read most of the other posts.

Earth

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Everything has been stated atleast twice, closed before the big rants come in.