Gripe about 'Randomness'

reddswitch

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Wah wah it's a whine about what a crock random chance is. What brings this about is Mad King Thorn's rock-paper-scissors game. At the 12:00pm event , America-English District 72, one person was picked 3 times (once in the beginning and twice in a row in the middle) and another was picked twice (once in the beginning and once in the middle). Both at the same periods of rock-paper-scissors. I don't believe these things rarely happen because two people got picked twice in the 9:00am event, forgot district, in a similar manner.

My chances are already slim on getting stuff but when repeats happen to a singular person while there're so many others missing out seems unfair. This brings to mind things like the ectoplasm or obsidian shard drops where sometimes there's just one person collecting five-six ectos/shards while the rest of the group gets one, two, or none.

Is it possible to assign a block to chances after a person in a group has already received either a pick or an item? I don't remember what it's called, basically if there're 100 people and person 34 gets picked, the next time the sample? will be person 1-33, 35-100. Set a reset after everyone else had a chance. Thoughts?

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

I bet there are moderators in game that specifically make sure certain people keep getting drops just to piss other party members off.

-_-

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mad King is controlled by Gaile, and she makes sure to guide the event in such a way that as many people as possible get upset.

Same for chests. Anet has employees that manually pick what you get, so that you're disapointed the most. And when they see someone is about to quit, they throw in a semi-decent drop.

And then, they read these forums, and /lol.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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True randomness: 1, 6, 3, 3, 9, 4, 7, 1, 3, ...

Randomness when "I" am the number 5: 5, 5, 1, 5, 5, 5, 8, 4, 5, 5, 5, ...

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Is it possible to assign a block to chances after a person in a group has already received either a pick or an item?
You are not talking about "randomness" but about "fairness", i.e. equal distribution over time but with unpredictable variation. Randomness has an inherent side of "fun" and "sadness", in that it can pick you several times in a row or not for a long time.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

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i tihnk there is a trick too it weather it be chosing /pickme at a moment or spammign or somthign like that, as 3 times happened in a distict i was in today, maybe the king is set to pcik 1 guy 3 times or somthing.

albeit there is a trend emerging, of 3 times. not 2 not 4 but 3

lucifer_uk

lucifer_uk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Nottingham, England

The Venerable Truth [TvT] The Venerable Alliance [TvH] [TvL]

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I got picked twice in a row and won both... I got shamelessly moaned at.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
True randomness: 1, 6, 3, 3, 9, 4, 7, 1, 3, ...

Randomness when "I" am the number 5: 5, 5, 1, 5, 5, 5, 8, 4, 5, 5, 5, ...



You are not talking about "randomness" but about "fairness", i.e. equal distribution over time but with unpredictable variation. Randomness has an inherent side of "fun" and "sadness", in that it can pick you several times in a row or not for a long time.
Exactly. Welcome to the law of large numbers. In all the "normal" statistical deviations you will find a few oddball "unfair" ones. Doesn't mean the system is broken.

Same thing with the lockpick retention debate really.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

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The Randomness in this game is as random as random can get, thats why you were randomly picked as a random victim of a random event which leaded to the random event of you creating a random thread about it, causing me to randomly reply with this random message.


Random............

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

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Um who really cares? they get maybe one or 2 extra gifts? wow shut down the servers right now this is so not fair!!! *puts crying hat on and sits in the corner*

Fitz Rinley

Fitz Rinley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Rusty Rose

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Exactly. Welcome to the law of large numbers. In all the "normal" statistical deviations you will find a few oddball "unfair" ones. Doesn't mean the system is broken.

Same thing with the lockpick retention debate really.
Wait - lockpicks actually get retained. I had heard this myth. But I have never seen any evidence of it. (Why I dont bother wasting money on them.)

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Whine threads = close.