Empathic Removal and Signet of Removal?

runeseeker1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Dark Guild of War [dgw]

I don't understand why people do not see these as viable elites.

[skill]Signet of Removal[/skill]
[skill]Empathic Removal[/skill]

Signet of Removal can see some use on a bonder bar (free, everyone in your party is enchanted, so you meet that requirement)... can also bypass daze, nasty hexes, etc.

I like Empathic Removal too. For 5 energy (and no attribute) I can remove a hex and condition from me and my ally for a 1 sec cast time!

I might be missing something here but please explain to me why these skills do not see much play.

nighthawk329

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guildless

Mo/E

It's probably because those two skills just aren't powerful enough when you compare them to other elites like LoD and SoD.

I guess signet of removal could see some use in a bonder, but there are better elites a bonder can take.

Empathic Removal isn't really that bad, it's just that other elites are so much better and you can do empathic removal's job with regular condition/hex removal.

Really the only place I would see these two skills used is for a non-monk profession to use them as a secondary hex removal because of the no attribute requirement.

LightningHell

LightningHell

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Empathic Removal used to be used on Warriors. It got replaced by Mend Touch.

LoD is just too vital to dump.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Signet of Removal used to be used on Mesmer smiters.

Div

Div

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Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Empathic removal would be nice if it could be self targeting, or maybe if the recharge was lower to actually be a good way of removing hexes and conditions...

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Empathic removal is also used on paragons instead of expel hexes ... kinda worth it.

Div

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Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

By being placed in prot prayers or any of the attribute lines, empathic removal would become much stronger and might actually get used.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

I use (or used) Empathic Removal on Rits, Warriors and Paras.

It's not a monk skill, tbh.

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

It's a bit like expel hexes, sort of monk help, I kinda like empathic removal, I sometimes run it on heroes.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Neither are great for monks mostly becuase monks have more important elites that belong on their skill bars. The Signet might be okay on a watchful spirit w/mo for self condition/hex removal. ER isn't bad, but isn't good enough to justify on a monk's bar.

Div

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Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
The Signet might be okay on a watchful spirit w/mo for self condition/hex removal. Hexes in PvE generally aren't as devastating, so I'd rather just take a mending touch (which removes 2 conditions!) and save the elite skill slot for damage, or something that actually helps me survive. Plus, if I really wanted to use the signet, I'd go with purifying veil probably.

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Yes I was also wondering why this skills don't see more use. Signet of Removal costs NO energy and it can remove both condition and hex with only 5 sec recharge. So, it can be used both as energy menagement, and it can go trough dazed, Backfire, Shame, and so on, while meeting it's req isn't too hard since nowdays allmost everyone is enchanted, or should be, anyway, cus he/she has like, you know, hexes and conditions on :P

Div

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Dead Alley [dR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
Yes I was also wondering why this skills don't see more use.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nighthawk329
It's probably because those two skills just aren't powerful enough when you compare them to other elites like LoD and SoD. Reading is gud for you!