any tips for kilroy hard mode?

AtomicMew

AtomicMew

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

N/A

How the bleep do you do this consistently? I keep getting owned midway through.

I've been doing normal mode, but the drops are worse, and it's about 2x slower.

STAB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

We play the Greek [WAY]

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skill number 1 (block) is your friend.

when u see a group use skill 1. then skill 7 on your target(melee first rangers next). imidiatelly skill 3 and then skill 4 (4 should be charged by the damage u take and your 3 attacks) if target is still alive (and you should not wait to see if he dies so queue the attack just in case) skill2. that is 1 down.

skill 6 drops em down and 5 is the second major damage. after that make your own combos.

At the begining take killroy with you. later on when u feel better dealing with all the enemies you can ran by the 1st group of 2 (letting him die) and then go abouts yourself. u get more drops that way.

EDIT:
Forgot to add. usually killroy dies at the first group, if he doesnt just leave the ones u attack so he dies at them. BUT always come back after u have finished the dungeon. the last ones are usually the ones that drop a lockpick or a gold on an otherwise dry run.

ヽ(??ー`)ノ

ヽ(??ー`)ノ

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Add 9 and 0 as your 8th skill slot trigger and just spam 8,9,0, and left click to get up really quick.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

btw, do things absorbtion and strength work on the brawl mode? I know that dagger mastery increases your damage. I made a knight set with a sup absorb to minimize the damage you take.
Also, runes that lower daze and increase knockdown time..

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

One thing to make it easier is to attack whatever Kilroy's attacking. The two of you focusing on one target drops things much faster.

Quote:
Originally Posted by STAB
At the begining take killroy with you. later on when u feel better dealing with all the enemies you can ran by the 1st group of 2 (letting him die) and then go abouts yourself. u get more drops that way. NPCs don't take drops.

STAB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

We play the Greek [WAY]

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however whenever i take killroy with me my drops are minimal. when i go alone i fill 25 to 30 spaces. care to explain why?

VaMpIrE|OrD

VaMpIrE|OrD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

United Kingdom!

Acolytes Of Anguish [aOa]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by STAB
however whenever i take killroy with me my drops are minimal. when i go alone i fill 25 to 30 spaces. care to explain why? I can't explain that however i do second the point that NPC's do not take drops, you get guys like this in all of them and if it was true you would gain less drops with your minions or pets, but this doesnt happen either.

STAB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

We play the Greek [WAY]

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i know what you mean. and it seems weird to me too. i too thought that NPCs dont affect your drops, but it seems they do. it kinda reminds me the statement that in Hard mode there wont be any loot scaling but we have all seen our drops diminish after a while.

i really wouldnt mind bringing killroy with me cause he cuts down my time from 16 minutes to 10 or sometimes less (his shout is unbelievably helpfull), but the difference in drops is too weird to explain.

VaMpIrE|OrD

VaMpIrE|OrD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

United Kingdom!

Acolytes Of Anguish [aOa]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by STAB
i know what you mean. and it seems weird to me too. i too thought that NPCs dont affect your drops, but it seems they do. it kinda reminds me the statement that in Hard mode there wont be any loot scaling but we have all seen our drops diminish after a while.

i really wouldnt mind bringing killroy with me cause he cuts down my time from 16 minutes to 10 or sometimes less (his shout is unbelievably helpfull), but the difference in drops is too weird to explain. Yea i think the overfarming thing is still up, i just think that they removed the "flags" but if you overfarm one place they didnt take the code off they just didnt leave a way to make them come back again, that would proberably expalin your idea of losses of drops.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by STAB
i know what you mean. and it seems weird to me too. i too thought that NPCs dont affect your drops, but it seems they do. it kinda reminds me the statement that in Hard mode there wont be any loot scaling but we have all seen our drops diminish after a while.

i really wouldnt mind bringing killroy with me cause he cuts down my time from 16 minutes to 10 or sometimes less (his shout is unbelievably helpfull), but the difference in drops is too weird to explain. Kilroy dont take drops.

xxx wraith xxx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

The netherlands

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dude that sure was a nice run of you....elite war tome and 3 rares...were they any good?

Aqualung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

The thing is, if Kilroy kills the mob alone, you'll get no drop since you didn't do damage.

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

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how on earth did you do that deluxe i got no golds when i did it

To the OP, spam block whenever you can, always start with the 2handed double 50 damage attack when it's available, attack the same foe as Kilroy, don't be afaraid to let kilroy go in first and take the damage and hit your highest powered skills when they are available.

Other that that good luck.

willypiggy

willypiggy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/Mo

Its quite wired, did it on my derv and got 2 golds (crap but still :P) tried again on my ranger and all i got was a lockpick, its really random but keep trying

ThisIsMadness

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

W/N

How do you do the run without Kilroy?
He's like a leech and is attached to you.
If you know away to get rid of him do share.

Sister Rosette

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThisIsMadness
How do you do the run without Kilroy?
He's like a leech and is attached to you.
If you know away to get rid of him do share. Simple, just let him run far enough ahead each time that he gets mowed down instantly, then step in and deal with the mob.

Also, since it hasn't been mentioned, clicking the 'STAND UP' skill along with hitting the corresponding number on the keyboard almost guarantees you won't fail this mission...even on HM.

xx hells paladin xx

xx hells paladin xx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

virginia

No your a towel [hiGh]

Mo/

may i ask wat this is?

Hobbs

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

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Fronis Inrontoe's Lair A solo dungeon in EoTN in which you use a set skill bar and you are accompanied by Kilroy Stonekin. You can access this dungeon by taking the quest Kilroy Stonekin's Punch-Out Extravaganza!.

Can't say I see the appeal in farming this dungeon, did it once in HM to get Mastery points and to get it in Dungeon Guide. Is it good for Rep/Drops? I saw the screenshot above but I assume the runs aren't consistently this good?

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqualung
The thing is, if Kilroy kills the mob alone, you'll get no drop since you didn't do damage. Oh doesn't it suck to be a monk then?

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by blue.rellik
Oh doesn't it suck to be a monk then?
let's take a look at what the guy directly above you said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Togira Ikonaka
Fronis Inrontoe's Lair A solo dungeon in EoTN in which you use a set skill bar and you are accompanied by Kilroy Stonekin. as in a set skillbar with brawling only skills, every class has the same skillset so won't matter here...

and i reckon you don't get drops because he is a ally not a partymember, in contradiction to party members things he kills solo can't drop anything for you. (feel free to prove me wrong)

EDIT:
@Lurid and blue.rellik the difference i tried to state here is that of ally/party member and wether something they dmg would drop items..
(wich seems like when a ally kills something solo you get no chance of it dropping something for you, instead of a party member of you killing something wich does give you a chance of the drop)
btw did you guys even read?

Lurid

Lurid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

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I think he meant, that if that was true then it would suck to a be a monk in general. Not necessarily here.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marth Reynolds
let's take a look at what the guy directly above you said:


as in a set skillbar with brawling only skills, every class has the same skillset so won't matter here...

and i reckon you don't get drops because he is a ally not a partymember, in contradiction to party members things he kills solo can't drop anything for you. (feel free to prove me wrong) I would reply but Lurid proved my point well enough.

O Frost O

O Frost O

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ascalon

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Omg yall make it sound so easy to beat this HM... Then I see most are war and classes with armor up the... I think im going to have to mod my eles armor just to beat this HM b/c 1 hit takes about 1/4 my health and the energy required to "stand up" keeps on getting higher to the point my fingers cant keep up... I wonder whose idea that was

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

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G15 keyboard ;D

Also if you have any, use Pumpkin Pies, they help alot.

O Frost O

O Frost O

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ascalon

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Ok now im a bit embarrased but I heard somewhere that I could use regular daggers and I was wondering why it seemed like I was doing no dmg, so I ran back picked up the brass knuckels and did fine this time

Has anyone else noticed that.. anyways I did it, am done and I hope to never come here again lol

Avatar Exico

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

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Block is your #1 Friend and attack whatever Killroy attacks so that you can spike on foes or take on foes let them attack you while Killroy attacks without being hit.

Andruil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Do the mission after this to get the upgraded daggers. Then add a fiery dagger tang, dagger handle of shelter, and the brawns over brains insignia to it. Also customize it. If you have the resources armor of salvation + essence of celerity are nice and any +armor insignias is nice.

@Deluxe I've gotten similar things running through with kilroy so I'm not convinced that even matters. I had 4 golds (1 chest), an elite warrior tome, and a whole bunch of regular tomes one run.