Veteran vs. Elitist.

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

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A veteran (from Latin vetus, meaning "old") is a person who is experienced in a particular area.
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Elitism is the belief or attitude that those individuals who are considered members of the elite — a select group of people with outstanding personal abilities, intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes — are those whose views on a matter are to be taken the most seriously or carry the most weight
The term elitist gets thrown around a lot in the GW community. What makes someone an elitist rather than a veteran? Or are the veterans the elitists?

Discuss.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

Me/

Elitists are people who think they are better then others.

Veterans are people that have been playing since the Beta.

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

I don't even know how to describe it. You just know.

A veteran is a player that has played the game for a long time and knows about and can reminisce about the old times. I suppose an elitist is one that uses that to his advantage to throw it people's faces. An elitist will brag about their gear (where the only thing that it provides more of is cost). That doesn't mean a player can't be both.

Meh, I dunno.

PureEvilYak

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

R/

I would consider myself a veteran. Been around since prophecies, maxed a number of titles, got a few sets of nice armor, got a nice little nest egg in storage. I'm not hugely rich, I spend a fair bit of time playing on the game, as it's my hobby, but not at the sacrifice of everything else. I know how to play well. I've farmed a little for certain things, but not intensively, and I havn't created a special farming character. I hope to get FoW armor one day by accretation (in this context: the slow accumulation of wealth without trying by playing the game. don't laugh, it works.).

In my opinion (which is personal and may differ from everyone elses), elitists can be veterans too. They have got the skills, and armors, and gold. But, while I would never regard my play style as casual, theirs is a notch up. Elitists would spend hours in a day doing repetitive farming tasks for item n, be it a panda, FoW armor, or some other amazingly expensive item. They view items by their wealth, not their ascetic value (ie: get a panda mini they hate just to show off (I know someone who has done this)). If they want something, they will put the time in, no matter what.

Those are my personal opinions. Feel free to embrace, ignore, reject, or flame them.

And 15k armors often provide greater detail, and a more ascetically pleasing look. I do hate it when people say the only thing about 15k armors is cost. Pet peeve. Yeah, no functionality, but I share Hayda's view that if you're going to be smashing monster brain, you may as well look dashing whilst doing it.

Drakken Breathes Fire

Drakken Breathes Fire

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

They May Be Dead [DEAD]

N/

A veteran is humble, sure they can be grouchy about nerfs that new players like myself don't even know exist, but they usually keep their mouths shut.

Elitist says 'oh no a nerf! the new guys might stand a chance against my build that used to be h4x! I have to find a better one to stay on top.' Followed by 'B*tch, b*tch, b*tch, nerf this nerf that, something something, GW2.'

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

elitist plays the game like its boot camp
veteran plays like it is camp

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

Veteran is someone you want to play with, elitist someone you don't want to play with.

Simple

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

vetrans are the ones that help new players....elitist are the ones running around saying "OMG you stupid Noob"

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Vets : have played GW for some time, can still be noobs but know the game and have seen it evolve. CAN be elitist, usually experience has shown them that "leetness" means squat.

Elitist: One can be Elitist from day1. heck you can be elitist without ever having played the game they just THINK they are the best and will only hang out with other people who think they are the best. (all the rest are noobs)

there are far far more elitist noobys than vets in my experience.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

Veteran played for a long time

Elitists thinks there too good to be around others,want to make others feel inferior

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

There is no way this thread will end well. Someone's going to slip a name or group themselves with either "veteran" or "elitist", and this whole thing is going to go to hell.

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazzer
There is no way this thread will end well. Someone's going to slip a name or group themselves with either "veteran" or "elitist", and this whole thing is going to go to hell.
which will be quite funny to watch i admit.

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
which will be quite funny to watch i admit.
And makes you feel bad for the mods

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

They're one and the same.
'Elitists' are just jerks about it.

Hmmmm, and... because it has to start somewhere... "GO!"

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Vets might have played for a long time, but I've seen some vets with attitudes of elitists..

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Discuss? nothing worthwhile discussing here.

Pointless thread, soon to be nothing but flames and stupid pictures (see above)

Closed.