Please advice: E/R or E/Me?

Mistress of Whispers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Hi,

I'm a first time player (and newbie to these forums - hi!) and can't choose if I want ranger or mesmer as 2nd profession for my elementalist.

Mesmer seems like the smart thing to do, from what I've read it comboes very well with elementalist.

But I love pets. Every game I've ever played I've ended up (if possible) with a pet. But in this case it'll take up 3 skills slots (charm animal, comfort animal, call of protection) which seems like a very hefty investment.

So does anyone here have experience with good E/Me or E/R builds? What would you advice? Do the smart thing, or go for the kittykat (a "something" stalker)?

Btw, I know that near the end of the game I can change my 2nd profession but that's, well, near the end of the game and it'd be nice to have a viable build before then .

I'm playing Prophecies btw.

Thanks.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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I'd go with ele mes. Ele ranger with pets are usually just to look pretty. So if you wanna look pretty by all means go ele ranger. The pet won't be of much use to you though.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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You could also just use minipets just to have pet and have whatever propfession combo you want

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Pets are a pretty big investment in terms of skill slots and it'd really hamper your ability to be an el. Assuming you bring a res and an attunement spell, that'll leave you with only 3 skill slots.

Mesmer the better secondary choice of the two.

elysiumIX

elysiumIX

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Asia

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Mesmer. Arcane Echo really helps.

I don't think you should pressure yourself with the secondary prof though. My ele started first with a necro secondary (for I never played a necro before), and yes, nothing really worked for in synergy, but I still had fun trying to combine skills from the two professions. Just experiment and enjoy.

Mistress of Whispers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Thanks for the advice!

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

Mesmer in my opinion. Personally though, I started out with an E/Mo.

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

e/mo for hard rez.

Hyprodimus Prime

Hyprodimus Prime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Vancouver BC

Sorrow Masters

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E/Me because the ranger doesnt offer much for the ele, especially in the beginning of the game where you cant change professions.

Mesmer skills you might want:
Arcane Echo
Mantra of Resolve
Channeling

Your secondary doesn't matter too much at the beginning of the game, especially in prophecies.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter
e/mo for hard rez. QFT

t w e l v e

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

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Ele monk, cause a year and a half back, after a monk dropped out of THK (I still didn't run proper builds back then), I kept the team alive along with another monk solely with heal party heal other, and healing breeze.

Lourens

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[skill]energizing wind[/skill][skill]quickening zephyr[/skill][skill]serpent's quickness[/skill]

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
QFT

t w e l v e [skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]

I would go with mesmer, has got some nice skills

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
I'm playing Prophecies btw.
Quote:
[skill]death pact signet[/skill]

i Valinor

i Valinor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

victoria

E/R

a fire ele that can pack their own winter. most of the time im E/R, for FoW and UW i will do E/Mes for echo nuking and if im doing an area in hard mode or with people i dont know i do E/Mo depending if i know the monk.

Mistress of Whispers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Thanks for the advice. I agree that Mesmer is the better choice by far but there's a chance it's gonna be Ranger anyway.

I've based the character on a tabletop RPG where I play a sorcerer whose familiar (a giant cat) is a big part of her identity. I've explained to the other players (4 of them; Me/Mo, Me/E, W/E, N/W) that mesmer will work better than ranger, but they said they're fine with me being less effective than I could be. One of the other players even said it wouldn't be the same without Teyr (the familiar). If I didn't already have a group supporting me I would probably go for E/Me, but I guess this is as good an opportunity as ever to try the E/R combo. At least, I hope so. :S

Glitched

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Me

It's a game, you play to have fun. Go with whichever secondary profession you think you'll enjoy most. If it doesn't work out, you can change up later.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

IF you are going to roleplay, dnt ask about efectiveness of build, just roleplay :]

just make sure you unlock other secondaries later in game so that you can use effective builds that wont annoy general population if you are even gonna play with random people.

Mistress of Whispers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

I'll do that . I was actually undecided between R or Me, which is why I asked. But since then the group has been pretty vocative about wanting the familiar in the game. But for my next character I'll definately keep in mind that E/Me and E/Mo work better.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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If you go ele monk, please dont try to be a monk.

Mistress of Whispers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Why's that, Sir Pandra Pierva?

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

to answer your question:

because it's absolutely terrible. Unless you want to go eprod/heal party bitch, which no group needs anymore thanks to LoD.

Mistress of Whispers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

eprod? LoD? heal party bitch?
I'm a complete newbie, and have no idea what that means. :S

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Ether Prodigy. [skill]ether prodigy[/skill]
Light of Deliverance. [skill]light of deliverance[/skill]
Heal Party bitch... Someone spamming [skill]heal party[/skill]

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Chaining [wiki]aegis[/wiki] together with 2 monks can be pretty useful, 3 people can more or less keep it up infinitely. 50% block chance for everyone cant possibly suck.

Mistress of Whispers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Thanks for explaining

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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It's a tempting thing to try with the high energy pools or ele, but its no where near as effective as having a monk with you at all.

Mistress of Whispers

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

I like the monk so far, but the damage output of smiting prayers is very slow. Maybe I'll pick up ele as second to compensate for that.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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Tried it already it's ok. Smite isn't really all that great when it comes to dmg. Eles can apply the highest dps.*runs from all the sin freaks*

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

if you wanna be drowning with energy (well not really drowning) go for E/Me since it has [skill]Channeling[/skill]

if you wanna have fast recharging skill, go for E/R since it has [skill]Serpent's Quickness[/skill]

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

mes really is for [skill]Arcane Echo[/skill] and [skill]Auspicious Incantation[/skill] and [skill]Echo[/skill]


Not really [skill]channeling[/skill]

That is more used in monks. It could work though but eles have wonderful Energy managment. With the attunes, and
[skill]Mind Blast[/skill] also [skill]Elemental Attunement[/skill](I know people hate this skill but it's still pretty good energy managment)

and some others.

I know this is not proph only I am just making a point.