Assasins dont die THAT much ;)

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
Hold the phone!!!

You can have a build without Skills!?

Holy shit!! excuse me I've got to tell my friend *5 minutes later*

Back, He says HOLY SHIT!!!!
. Lol best part.

Sqube

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Behind you...

A/

To answer Ultarium's question sent via PM: my build depends on what I'm doing.

General:
Shadow Refuge - GPS - Critical - MB - DB - Crit. Agil. - [Optional] - Rez

Glass Cannon:
GPS - Critical - Moebius - DB - TF - HotO - Crit. Agil. - Rez

Melee Farm:
GPS - Crit - Moebius - DB - Mystic Regen. - WoP - Crit. Def. - Crit. Agil.
GPS - Crit - Moebius - BoS - Myistc Regen. - WoP - Crit. Def. - Crit. Agil.*


Those are my most commonly run builds. Then there are L-O-D builds for variety, niche builds for stripping enchants, stances, and interrupting, more niche farming builds like A/E Sliver... Even though I've only got 4 characters, I've got a build folder for every class. I think everybody should.

*I've found that, while BoS means that I don't get AoE damage, I get more drops because I'm not killing people as quickly. I don't know if this is supposed to be the case or I'm just imagining things, but it feels like I make more profit when I'm not killing everybody at the same time (or in a short time period) because of AoE damage. This lets me kill one baddy at a time efficiently (BoS does more damage running that chain than DB does), Moebius recharges, lulz. It's also solid with spike heals from Moebius - Crit Strike if I want it.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

Nice post Ensorki, too bad he was banned.

gnome

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/

A/E AoD old school ftw.
AoD
golden pheonix strike
horns of the ox
falling spider
blades of steel
impale
shadow refuge
SDH
this build only dies when u r surrounded by enemies and AoD doesnt shadow step u away. ppl can flee from you one minute then get killed by you the next and you dnt even have to follow =)

Mist Walker Skarloc

Mist Walker Skarloc

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Gods Of The Hot [GotH]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
Nice post Ensorki, too bad he was banned. I'll miss him... Why exactly he get banned? for swearing?

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mist Walker Skarloc
I'll miss him... Why exactly he get banned? for swearing? How come his name didn't go gray when he got banned? Is it a temp ban or something?

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

Shows up grey on my screen.

Tamgi Sun

Tamgi Sun

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

R/Rt

I haven't read any of this, coz i'm too lazy.
But I find that using Shadow Meld or Aura of Displacement increases an assassin's Survival rate massively.
It removes the need for a self heal, and when you are under too much pressure, just remove the enchantment (:

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Issac
How come his name didn't go gray when he got banned? Is it a temp ban or something? I got banned as well and no one made a thread asking why ( It was for trolling a freeked out fish thread, they have the same quality as SotiCoto's )

Mist Walker Skarloc

Mist Walker Skarloc

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Gods Of The Hot [GotH]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
I got banned as well and no one made a thread asking why ( It was for trolling a freeked out fish thread, they have the same quality as SotiCoto's ) If I knew, I would have made a thread asking why. We all love you, Yanman.

What kind of quality do you mean? I saw SotiCoto banned, could that have something to do with the quality of his threads?

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

He was pretty much making pointless threads, trying to prove points that have been known to be incorrect, and so hard trying not to troll, that it actually was a troll.

Jaigoda

Jaigoda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

IGN Eat Scythes

He posts rather... pointless and meaningless crap. Most of it is just trolling, stupidity, and flame bait all rolled into two or three sentences.

Ultarium

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Kurzick Highguard

A/D

Lets not get to far off subject, this thread is about assassin builds (kinda). Plus I dont want this thread shut down because its to far off topic.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

Nothing to suggest really as I've been using this build for ages as well

Quote:
Critical Agility (+20 armor and 33% faster attacks, can be replaced with Vital Boon or Way of Perfection for those with low Sunspear rank)
Critical Defenses (staple, must have this is the main thing keeping you in the fight)
Mystic Regeneration (or Way of Perfection, I cant make up my mind)
Golden Fox Stike (unblockable +26 damage attack)
Wild Strike (unblockable +30 damage attack)
Critical Strike (automatic renewal of Critical Agility and Critcal Defenses)
Moebius Strike
Death Blossom I trust you have Darkroot's Daggers or the like to go along with it?

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Aww some of you missed me >.> but an assassin must be cold and unfeeling or some garbage like that .

In any case Sorry you got trolled banned once upon a time yan.

The chain
Golden Fox strike
Wild strike
Critical strike
Moebius strike
Death blossom
is 5 skills long.
Shorten it to 4...or stop the entire moebius idea.

Sins dont use a 5 length attack chain. Just take GPS.
Use that extra slot for utility, Disrupting dagger/ Dark escape./Deaths retreat.
To lazy to read again so im guessing its 8 earth prayers right?
Thats - 3 regen. and +9 regen in total 18 hp a second.
By using GPS CS MS DB and critical agility, with 8 shadow arts instead you get 50 something hp from Way of Perfection, and another 26/27/28? hp for random crits. And With removing GFS you can add critical eye. Way of Perfection can POSSIBLY, give you far more hp then mystic regen, however it does not help against degen.
If the degen isn't heavy (like only -3/4/ maybe -5) or if the degen isn't long (Rare Burning, not frequent) take Way of Perfection.
Solution is to take depending on your pve location.
Okay?

jaeharys targaryen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

Picnic Pioneers[asian characters]

E/Mo

Quote:
no one made a thread asking why was thinkign about it

feared beign called a faggot.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen
was thinkign about it

feared beign called a faggot. Wether you are Homosexual or Straight, we don't prejudice on Guru.

Except against Vultures (the Animal)...Penguins will always come before Vultures.

Anyways.

I can't find what you are quoting in the topic. Did you post in the wrong thread?

jaeharys targaryen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

Picnic Pioneers[asian characters]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
I got banned as well and no one made a thread asking why ( It was for trolling a freeked out fish thread, they have the same quality as SotiCoto's ) there yah go

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

ah okay, thought I had missed something in relation to the topic.

Ultarium

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Kurzick Highguard

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
The chain
Golden Fox strike
Wild strike
Critical strike
Moebius strike
Death blossom
is 5 skills long.
Shorten it to 4...or stop the entire moebius idea.
Sins dont use a 5 length attack chain. Just take GPS.
Use that extra slot for utility, Disrupting dagger/ Dark escape./Deaths retreat.
To lazy to read again so im guessing its 8 earth prayers right?
Thats - 3 regen. and +9 regen in total 18 hp a second.
By using GPS CS MS DB and critical agility, with 8 shadow arts instead you get 50 something hp from Way of Perfection(what are you talking about?), and another 26/27/28? hp for random crits. And With removing GFS you can add critical eye. Way of Perfection can POSSIBLY, give you far more hp then mystic regen, however it does not help against degen.
If the degen isn't heavy (like only -3/4/ maybe -5) or if the degen isn't long (Rare Burning, not frequent) take Way of Perfection.
Solution is to take depending on your pve location.
Okay? Ok, the chain being 5 long, because its that long when I am pve I can switch targets much faster rather than wait to start the chain on a new target, plus the critical strike attack is an instant restart on my critical agility/defence along with it giving me a much needed boost in energy after I spam DB and Moebius for a while. I dont need to get away with dark escape or deaths retreat either with what I have, its usualy better to die then run anyway, by the time I regen with what you suggest the enemies will have recharged as well. As for the just putting it in Shadow arts idea, if I do that then dgen can be a pain, but since I put it on an 18hp per second, dgen is laughable at any ammount. Besides if I put it in shadow arts, way of perfection only works on criticals, so when the fights done and you have degen plus your low on health, bye bye sin, trip over. My guy is just a lot more sturdy than a shadow arts defence style, my one skill replaces WOP and shadow refuge, making my character ready to go into a new place and still be able to hold up no matter what the situation(less down time in town fixing skills).

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultarium
blah,blah. The 5 slot combo is still garbage,regardless if you like switching targets. This is pve as you said, Having long recharged skills as an assassin makes you pve dirt, and thus you should h/h as you would just be a nuisance to other teams!
Take Sin's promise + GPS,Repeating Strike,DB if you wan't to be able to always attack and crap.
(or black spider...maybe both!)
Your 5 slot combo doesn't make you make you any better than the normal moebius except that your first 2 skills are 4 second recharge. Problem is you give up utility for that in pve.
Take the normal moebius or 1 of the many assassin's promise builds on the net.
And if you still want your quick recharge builds
Way of the empty Palm
jagged,Wild strike Repeating strike. MMKAY? 3 other utility slots.

Heres how I sum up that entire thing into 1 small thing.
5 slots = 1 slot used for utility.
1 slot less for utility = 1 additional chance to be minion fodder
= 1 additional chance to give assassins more bad pve rep.

You wan't infinite critical agility/defense
Then add critical strikes >.>...
Your build works in PVE, by why use it over the normal GPS?
that little 4 second off hand and lead?

I could've brought something to save my/or my teams ass with that slot!

Sqube

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Behind you...

A/

Golden - Wild - Death Blossom - Moebius.

In PvE, you're probably going to be bringing Critical Agility and you should have 13 CS. Combine that with Zealous daggers, and you shouldn't be running into much in the way of energy problems.

If you're that paranoid about energy, you should be doing Critical - Moebius. You'll have so much energy at that point that you might as well go /E, put some fun points in an attribute, and bring along something spicy, like [skill=text]Whirlwind[/skill]/[skill=text]Teinai's Wind[/skill], or [skill=text]Crystal Wave[/skill]/[skill=text]Teinai's Crystals[/skill] if the group you're in isn't using conditions.