Cast Your Vote... Best GW Expansion... GW:EN or Sorrow's Furnace

Dreikki

Dreikki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kemi, Finland.

Pirates of the Searing [YoHo]

Mo/

EoTN easily.

SF was just couple quests and some bosses in a dungeon that had only two types of enemies.

It's sad how people vote for SF just because they bought EOTN without waiting for other people's opinions. You can't get a refund by crying about it on fansites. It was your own problem you didn't like it. It costed like 40€, it's not that bad and it was clearly cheaper for rest of you guys. I'm not sure about your economic situations but if 40€ was that bad, then why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO did you buy the game?

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Because we expected way more and got jipped?

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

uhh GW:EN, sorrows furnace was barely as much content.

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

Apples and oranges, but I voted EotN anyway.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Everyone voting SF is either obstinate and would rather die than admit anything in GW nowadays is actually decent, or is being blinded by nostalgia. SF was one large dungeon. GW:EN has 18 ranging from small to bigger than SF. Just based on that alone, GW:EN provides far more content and fun than SF.

The only reason SF was popular is because it was the first of its kind, but that doesn't make it eternally better than anything that comes after it.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I had no expectations of new armor and such from sf and was awarded with green items. I had expectations of nice armor and weapons from eye and was awarded with grind............

sf is my choice and yes it was free (and my first green items which many of my characters are STILL using!)

Pirates Arrrg Matey

Pirates Arrrg Matey

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/Mo

SF for me, it was a new experience as it had green items and elites you could cap there you couldn't get for awhile after. does eviscerate ring a bell? I liked it better than GW:EN, for if you were one of the classes that regularly did 5 man farms around there or did alkar farms, it was really fun. I personally don't think its fair to rate both of them against each other for SF was a free update and GW;EN was something you had to buy.

I played GW:EN and to me it was ok, prophecies was better, but thats off-topic, not trying to write a book here but, I just like the overall atmosphere of fighting stone summit and hearing the beastmasters die which sounds like a dying elephant.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

Just because your expectations were exceeded for SF doesn't mean it was better... it means your expectations were low. GW:EN only has about 30x the content of SF... some of it you may not like, but usually there will be at least as much that is good.

And regarding a post on the last page - people who quit GW before EotN would generally not be reading this forum. I hope.

Scarlett Romanov

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

SF ftw.

Easier to get into, much more fun to play. Plus free!

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

I don't consider SF to be an expansion.

Raiin Maker

Raiin Maker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

W/

Sorrows, just had a whole more 'epic' feeling, due to the fact that these amazing green items were new. Now they're just old trash.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I didn't vote as they are both great in different ways and lets hope for some more.

william1975

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

I'm still playing GW:EN, still having fun and still have a few things to do.

I played SF once got bored with it and was annoyed at having to do moa quest in it.

voted GW:EN for longer fun eliment and larger play area.

though i don't think this is a fair comparison

Kula

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

If you included in your poll: "disregarding how much they each cost" I would have voted for EOtN.

But when you take into account how we were overcharged for EOtN, then I vote for SF since I think $40 was not justified.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

free vs massively overpriced

easy for me to decide

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

SF all the way

All EotN did was introduce grind based skills to topple the balance between skill and time.

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

SF > GW:EN

Loved selling greens for 100s of K's, plus it was free and fun.

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Apples and oranges... one was small and free, one was medium size and $35. I've always considered SF as prophecies content that was put in late, much as DoA was put in late for nightfall.

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

Why just sorrows furnace? What about all of the other stuff that was added to prophecies before factions came out?

Titan Quests
SF
Grenths footprint
New Tombs
Greens in The Falls
Rotscale

I vote prophecies, as most of gw:en (the dungeons) look exactly the same and are annoying.

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Brrr, this comparison doesn't make any sense. GW:EN it is then, it's simply....bigger, and I don't feel as shafted as the rest of you people because I payed $20 for GW:EN, which is just about enough.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah
Why just sorrows furnace? What about all of the other stuff that was added to prophecies before factions came out?

Titan Quests
SF
Grenths footprint
New Tombs
Greens in The Falls
Rotscale

I vote prophecies, as most of gw:en (the dungeons) look exactly the same and are annoying.
the greens in the falls were added after factions, cause there were ungues of oni (or some other name some type of dagger) which drops somewhere in the jade sea. they were added in the same update.

according to wiki factions was released April 28 and the update that introduced the new greens was June 15
the jade brotherhood also dropped some kind of fan. but i can't remember the name.

Grenth's Footprints was also part of the SF expansion.

Quote:
EoTN easily.

SF was just couple quests and some bosses in a dungeon that had only two types of enemies.

It's sad how people vote for SF just because they bought EOTN without waiting for other people's opinions. You can't get a refund by crying about it on fansites. It was your own problem you didn't like it. It costed like 40€, it's not that bad and it was clearly cheaper for rest of you guys. I'm not sure about your economic situations but if 40€ was that bad, then why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO did you buy the game?
its not that I can't afford to spend the money.
But I am disappointed how little i got for it, especially after all it was advertised to be, but it didn't live up to the expectations set by the advertising

Kind of like when you receive a package, a big one, and then you open it and it is 70% of those foam things they put in so the actual product doesn't get shaken around. The box looks like it contains a lot more than it does. Thats the feeling i have wit GWEN.

if you go by value vs. cost SF is infinitely better because it was free,
getting a little for nothing beats getting something that costs more than its worth in my opinion.

doesn't mean i'll not play GWEN, I have bought it now, and its not refundable, so i'll make the best of it.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Eye of the North without any doubt. But they aren't really comparable.

GW:EN is much larger with all the multi level dungeons. GW:EN also offers a far greater variation in lanscapes and areas than Sorrow Furnace has. But since Sorrows Furnace was a free addition to the game; it was definatly a nice one.

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

W/

Awful comparison if you ask me (free against not free, small against..well..huge)

But I prefer GW:EN, it contains 18 areas like SF...

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

Eye of the North wins imo, SF wasn't really an expansion it was just additional content added because Anet fell behind on their "new campaign every 6 months" promise.

EotN has far more content and offers armor, weapons, PvE only content (consumables and skills), and other stuff SF doesn't. EotN was basically a whole game content wise. The story pretty much sucks but people forget about the dungeons.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Everybody voting for SF is doing so because of price which is pretty pathetic.

GW:EN completely blows SF away...

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

SF GWEN was A SF package for 40$ LOL

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Everybody voting for SF is doing so because of price which is pretty pathetic.

GW:EN completely blows SF away...
Or maybe GW:EN was ridiculously overpriced for $40, I think that has more to do with it.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

SF gave us the first greens and GW:EN gave us dungeons so both are FTW.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
You semantic nitpick has been corrected in my post.
Cool, thx. That's just been a pet peeve of mine. I bought all the collector's editions but even buying the regular ones someone forks out a bit and some people do lose perspective of that when talking to others. I understand what you meant now.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Kind of like comparing a sleek little sports car to a cushy SUV. I want them both!

Actually, I voted for GW:EN. I've gotten much more entertainment from it.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

Depends on what you like. SF for farming/originality. EotN for story and heroes.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

More variety in areas/quests/titles for EOTN. Sacnoth valley is one of the few places that really made me stop and question if it was safe to enter.

It would be interesting to see poll results if GF/SF had it's own title system introduced... dwarf slayer or something, which would give you extra damage vs summit, like LB points for torment mobs. The poll would probably be very close.

Pirates Arrrg Matey

Pirates Arrrg Matey

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Everybody voting for SF is doing so because of price which is pretty pathetic.

GW:EN completely blows SF away...

Not really imo its pretty much what you would expect from an expansion, I like it, I just think some of the elements were good and some were bad. Imo, SF was just wow to me for it added the "green craze" I guess you would call it. For example when I played I was like hmm I hope I get a green so i can tell my guildies about the fun story of getting it, with GW:EN wow I got a green, I can pretty much just get a inscriptable version thats better. Thats why i like SF better, cheers.

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

SF: many quality hours whiled away there.

Note that a large part of the quality of SF was derived from environmental conditions at the time:

1) Networking PuGs wasn't difficult, so you played with real human beings (with or w/o voice comm). There was a substantial number of excellent players running around down there in the first few weeks.

2) The game was relatively balanced in PvE land. (Release of SF was immediately after they hammered Prot Bond and added Nightmares to UW.) Game balance was such that 3-5 man teams were both effective and efficient in SF.

EDIT: Graphics arguments in favor of GW:EN are hard to make; the "wow" factor of the graphics for SF was much higher two years ago than that of the graphics for GW:EN are at this time.

max gladius

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

bumping to get some more input... like what i see so far...

Liberations

Liberations

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Azeroth (shhh)

Ryders of the Sword [FrNd]

E/

I thoroughly enjoyed the first part of GW:EN, and SF is really small (though buckets of fun ). I'm opting not to vote here.

The blatant negativity towards everything new Anet puts out is going to literally drive me insane. I mean literally.

GW:EN= solid expansion
SF= solid major update

On the same level in their own respects if you ask me.

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirates Arrrg Matey
Not really imo its pretty much what you would expect from an expansion, I like it, I just think some of the elements were good and some were bad. Imo, SF was just wow to me for it added the "green craze" I guess you would call it. For example when I played I was like hmm I hope I get a green so i can tell my guildies about the fun story of getting it, with GW:EN wow I got a green, I can pretty much just get a inscriptable version thats better. Thats why i like SF better, cheers.
That has nothing to do with SF vs. GW:EN. They added a concept in SF, and by the time GW:EN came out, that concept was overused and no longer exciting. Thats like saying you like Prophecies better than Nightfall because when you made your Mesmer in Prophecies it was "Wow, a mesmer" but in Nightfall you thought "Another mesmer, yay?"

Pirates Arrrg Matey

Pirates Arrrg Matey

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omniclasm
That has nothing to do with SF vs. GW:EN. They added a concept in SF, and by the time GW:EN came out, that concept was overused and no longer exciting. Thats like saying you like Prophecies better than Nightfall because when you made your Mesmer in Prophecies it was "Wow, a mesmer" but in Nightfall you thought "Another mesmer, yay?"
actually i was trying to illustrate how life back in prophecies was better than it is now, how farming for greens was for fun, not so much for profit. I was saying "wow another green", cause now you can just go farm for inscriptable versions of the item or buy one, instead. Then even if you hoped to find a gold weapon with a good damage mod, you got junk. I am just saying the skins weren't as readily available in Sf, as they were GW:EN. SO i was saying I liked the first time experience of it, no need to be all sarcastic and be witty. Just trying to put an opinion.

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

i voted sorrows furnace

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirates Arrrg Matey
actually i was trying to illustrate how life back in prophecies was better than it is now, how farming for greens was for fun, not so much for profit. I was saying "wow another green", cause now you can just go farm for inscriptable versions of the item or buy one, instead. Then even if you hoped to find a gold weapon with a good damage mod, you got junk. I am just saying the skins weren't as readily available in Sf, as they were GW:EN. SO i was saying I liked the first time experience of it, no need to be all sarcastic and be witty. Just trying to put an opinion.
Wasn't trying to be sarcastic and witty. Was just saying how you becoming bored of GW as a whole should be irrelevant on rating of the expansions. Even though, I would say that 90% of the SF votes are on the same thing. You loved GW when SF came out, but now GW is just meh. With that thrown in, this is basically a "Do you have as much fun as you used to" thread.