Obsidian Armor Appearance

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

yes, because looking at all the support your getting, this is one of those "interests they thought are the most important" *cough* sarcasm *cough*

Sorry but most people don't seem to want or care of a change in fow armor.

holy gug

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

California

noble honor

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper22
yes, because looking at all the support your getting, this is one of those "interests they thought are the most important" *cough* sarcasm *cough*

Sorry but most people don't seem to want or care of a change in fow armor.
I think you are the type of people who are afraid of changes. Also please dont make any statements if you are not even sure about. but what should i expect from a young teen who havn't finish his essay.

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by holy gug
I think you are the type of people who are afraid of changes. Also please dont make any statements if you are not even sure about. but what should i expect from a young teen who havn't finish his essay.
Its only a 3 page essay and its not due until thursday, I got time. Lets not have this into some usless thread of insults. There really isn't any need for change for the fow armor and it doesn't seem to be supported by many people. I'd rather have anet work on other things like GW2, skill balances (if more needed), bug fixes, and maybe any other additions to GW like a new area or changes in pvp.

BTW sorry if i have ticked you off in some way.... this is just my opinion

holy gug

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

California

noble honor

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper22
Its only a 3 page essay and its not due until thursday, I got time. Lets not have this into some usless thread of insults. There really isn't any need for change for the fow armor and it doesn't seem to be supported by many people. I'd rather have anet work on other things like GW2, skill balances (if more needed), bug fixes, and maybe any other additions to GW like a new area or changes in pvp.
Serious, do you really think i was talking about ur essay?
If you know how to count, there are not many opponent threads against my original idea. "either create a new costume with distinguished luxurious design (cost higher than Obsidian Armor) or redesign the current Obsidian Armor to make it more suitable to its price of 1 million gold."

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Well that's because there is no need to create a thread suggesting NOT to do something. But I'm done posting here, we don't need more comments like, "If you know how to count...."

-Signing out

/notsigned

holy gug

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

California

noble honor

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper22
Well that's because there is no need to create a thread suggesting NOT to do something. But I'm done posting here, we don't need more comments like, "If you know how to count...."

-Signing out

/notsigned
I did count you as one opponent vote. Also you are by yourself, not "we".

nechronius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Southern Cali

Herald of the Storm

W/R

Holy gug it seems people are obviously focusing on one half of your statement. I'll take a moment to address your other half.

It would certainly be nice if they did introduce more armor sets, no doubt about it. But I think it's pretty clear that a.net won't be spending any additional man-hours creating new armor sets for the old game.

A new, more expensive set would be nice, but given their allocation of manpower I think all we would get is mostly reskinning (cough, cough, EotN). And making a theoretical set of armor that's a direct alternative for FoW would piss off a user base that spent an untold fortune on armor that they may have just "settled" on to show their prowess, only to find that there's a better looking armor set that costs teh same.

Definitely the new armor set will need to be distinct enough and under a different context than FoW armor, but that's already been done. It's called EotN armor which is, as I say above, mostly just reskins.

So it seems clear to me that any requests for changed armor or especially NEW armor will fail to make any difference. From here on out we can expect status quo except for balance/bug fix changes.

Monique

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Personally I agree with Sniper22.
Finish the game and deal with real issues before you listen to some dumb shit crying that his female Elementalist can't be completely naked.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

I would be fine with another armor set equivalent in UW, i'd be glad to show you concepts i have in my sketch book. The idea has been suggested before.

But no to changing existing armors that players have already purchased in the past 2 years or changing the cost of any armors.

Under your reasonings I should be able to demand that any armor set be changed, or replaced because I dont like it.

Your hollow pandering about "they will change the game for the majority" is a nonsensical talking point with no real weight to it.

Since the game has been out for 2 years, and a good amount of players have already purchased or are willing to purchase this armor (just based on the price/demand for ecto and shards), changing it because you dont like it, would piss of a lot of players, not just a few, not to mention destabilize the ecto dependant economy, if players dont like the changes. And trust me, I speak on behalf of me and my friends, we will not be pleased.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

/unsigned to changing FoW armor, it's been around too long and it's just the classic elite set.

/signed for some new fancy set for players to dye black and stroke their epeens over, if only because mesmer fow is just pathetic.

Government Flu

Government Flu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Paradoxa Zoloft Asylum [PXZ]

W/R

At first, I got a full set of obsidian armor for my female warrior as a status symbol, but when I dyed it, I really liked how it looked. I like it even more after getting two weapons that match perfectly with it!

Looks great in my opinion. Other armors that look awesome in the FoW line would be the Dervish armor, the female assassin armor, monk armor (without sandals) and elementalist armor.

All in all, for being a set made in the days of Prophecies, obsidian armor looks excellent.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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I absolutely adore this one, but I am still collection ectos and shards ....

Epic Monkey Battle

Epic Monkey Battle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Warrior's Isle

Fat Kids Are Hard To Kid [Nap]

Mo/

I have about 5 sets of "Elite" Armor on my monk, including Obsidian Armor, and I wear my Obsidian the most... not because it is some sort of status symbol... but because I like it the best. If I thought Elite Kurzick armor looked the best I would wear it the most. I wouldn't mind if a.net made some sort of new fancy expensive armor tho... it would give me something to work for...

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by holy gug
Here I would like to get some ideas from everyone that how do you like the appearance (style/design/pattern) of the Obsidian Armor (the most expensive Armor in GW). To me, it just looks ugly and cheap. For some professions, it is not even comparable to their 15k armors. I was getting an idea from my guildies that Anet should either create a new costume with distinguished luxurious design (cost higher than Obsidian Armor) or redesign the current Obsidian Armor to make it more suitable to its price of 1 million gold.
Could everyone vote on this concern which will ultimately benefit all of us.
Also, please vote on which profession's Obsidian Armor you dislike the most, sec.
I dislike no wait hate all FoW armor except the well its still iffy but the rits and dervs look ok nothin great tho. Warrior FoW armor is just a complete joke and anyone who walks up to me with it I just laught how barrel chested and funny it looks.

Your right the other 15k sets are so much better looking than FoW.

I like to refer to the FoW armor as "Fugly" Its Funny ugly no appeal to buy it and im buying all the elite armor for my HoM and FoW is 1 set I will never buy LOL Im afraid that if I had it on my char I would not play the game I would stand in town laughing at my screen.

But the same can be said for the asuran armor Makeing you look like a Angry beaver but thats a good Laugh, when on vent and playing with guildies Pop on the helmet and scream Beaver Maul Beaver Maul. LOL

Lady Ana Stacia

Lady Ana Stacia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Germany

Beware of our Temper [BooT]

Me/

/notsigned

My mesmer and monk adore the FoW armor they worked their butts off to get. My necro will love hers just as much when I am done saving up for it.

Of course I wouldn't mind if more sets where put into the game but FoW should stay the way it is now.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by holy gug
Here I would like to get some ideas from everyone that how do you like the appearance (style/design/pattern) of the Obsidian Armor (the most expensive Armor in GW). To me, it just looks ugly and cheap. For some professions, it is not even comparable to their 15k armors. I was getting an idea from my guildies that Anet should either create a new costume with distinguished luxurious design (cost higher than Obsidian Armor) or redesign the current Obsidian Armor to make it more suitable to its price of 1 million gold.
Could everyone vote on this concern which will ultimately benefit all of us.
Also, please vote on which profession's Obsidian Armor you dislike the most, sec.

If people thought that fow really looked that crappy, there wouldn't be busloads of whammos sitting in Kamadan dressed in fow.

By the way, it's not a "concern". It's a pet peeve you may have, but certainly not a concern.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Obsidian armour is fine as it is acquiring it another thing.It would be nice if you can get ectos and shards on surface some where.I want a set for my Monk and who knows maybe my Warrior and Ranger as well.

PureEvilYak

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

R/

/compromise?

With Anets team all working on GW2, this is unlikely to happen. But hey, may as well speak of it.

The only two FoW armors I think look any good are Rit and Sin. Personal opinion. I would love the prestige of Ranger FoW, as ranger is my favorite character. But I hate it. I would like it changed. However, some other people seem to like it, and I know I'd hate to see one of my favorite armors changed.

So, here comes the compromise. Add an entirely new set of FoW armor for every class. A new deity zone to get it in would be nice but theres no need for that. Just add this second set to the Forgemaster, with the same costs and materials required, and call it, maybe, "[class] armor of the mists". They wouldn't even have to necessarily design it, they could hold a contest, for example! I know I've had something like 50 ideas for my rangers armor (for a glowing gemstone encrusted set to one made almost entirely from clockwork). I'm sure a bunch of other people have had similar ideas. Then, they can give the community a treat, give the prestige seeking players a choice in armor. Win/win.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Here's my personal opinion on the appearances of FoW armor:
Female Mesmer: Rocks!

Necros, Assassins, and female Monks: Nice!

Female Warrior, Rangers, male Monk: OK

Dervish & Paragon: So-So

Everything else: Ewwwwwwww.

But to each his own. Leave the armor as it is. If I decide to work on getting FoW armor for my lady Monk, and half way through farming my butt off, they change it to something less than desireable, I would NOT be a happy camper. (It's the only other FoW armor I'd consider gettng)

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ritualist, Paragon, Dervish are the only good FoW armors in my opinion

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Female Necromancer and female Mesmer are the only good looking ones.

All the rest is really ugly. This isn't a personal preference, it's the cold hard truth. God made me the absolute, infallible authority on GW armor aesthetics. It's a bit of a burden, but I carry it with pride. If you disagree, you're either deluded, playing the devil's advocate or suffering from a lapse in good taste so severe that it's probably ruining other, more serious, aspects of your life as well. See a shrink.

Just so you all know.

Oh, by the way, /notsigned.

Tenjin

Tenjin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

Colorado

Seven Samurai [SvnS]

A/

FoW armor is more of a bragging right than for looks, though some do look pretty good.

Personally I think the dervish armor is very... very... plain. It looks like almost every other Dervish armor set.

Sakkaku Kaikou

Sakkaku Kaikou

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Right up your alley.

Wind Riders [WIND]

W/E

Due to the fact that some people like some of the armors, I would personally say no changing them. And as for making another set of "elite" armor, I would think quite a few people would be upset, since many people did buy it simply for the prestige. Which is perfectly reasonable. Of course, there is always the option of dropping the cost of the FoW armor and giving refunds to people (a la Razah), but again, I agree that that time would be better spent fixing other things.

In other words, sorry, but /notsigned.

And by the way, I like the Paragon, Ritualist, Male Mesmer, and Male Elementalist. Only a "maybe" on the Ranger and Dervish, though. >>

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

the only sets that i personally liked - female necro and female mesmer - i bought. i also have the female ranger chest piece with 15k studded leather, but i just like how those look together, not the whole set.
as has been mentioned, if you like it, buy it. if you don't, don't. it really is that easy, and it's the same concept with 1.5k and 15k armor. i see ugly armor all the time, that's why i DON'T BUY IT.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

I actually like the appearence of FoW armor, expecially on the Ritualist, Elementalist, Monk, Paragon, and Necromancer.

The warrior is alright in my eyes, as is the mesmer, the ranger, assasin, and Dervish could use some work though.

But hey, you can't please everyone.

mystical nessAL

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

DDrk

W/Mo

I find ele,monk,mesmer,necros realy awesome with Obs armor, realy one of bests armors for these proffs.

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

R/

/signed...

they look cool... but id rather have 15k kurzick on my monk dyed white than FoW even if it was the same price...ele is the only cool one

AND IT STILL ISNT ALL THAT!!!!

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Sin Fow looks so pathetic its sad, it needs to be reworked pl0x

Lil Ferk

Lil Ferk

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Texas

[GORD]

P/

/not signed
ppl buy this to show off not because they like how it looks(for most professions) If they want to spend 1mil on something that does the EXCACT same thing as 1k armor thats fine with me i'm just never going to waste my money on it i've got better things to buy

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

/not signed

you can get vabbi, primeval, the 15k Tyrian and canthan sets and all the Norn armors. As has been said before, the FoW isn't really elite, anymore. DoA is harder(at least before Ursanway). It was made to look like brutish armor forged in the Fissure of Woe with gobs of ecto and obsidian.

There are plenty of choices, and guess what? Anet has a little priority called GW2. After EotN, the next fresh design anyone will see will be in that game.

thetechx

thetechx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

the mooninites

E/Mo

the only obsidian armor i like is the ritualists. but i cannot stand any FOW armor dyed black, except monk, but on everything else it completly takes away the detail in the pieces and makes it look like absolute gabarge.
when will people learn that black is the ugliest color to dye about 90% of the armors in GW.

Maximumraver

Maximumraver

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

Twisted Revenge [TR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Its personal preference....

You cant argue for this kind of change based on personal preference.

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I love Elementalist FoW, it gives me a big X-Men movie vibe with sculpted leather. rawr...

And Warrior FoW, i love the grimy dark cast iron texture of it.

To each his/her own.

The only thing i would change is for higher resolution on textures.
Couldn't agree more.

杀TanK杀

杀TanK杀

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

W/

Nothing can be done about changing fissure armour because then you wud have people complain they dont like it and demand their 1 mil back..

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Some like it

Some don't.

Either way, it's personal preference and doesn't actually affect anything.

Sort of like choosing Luxon or Kurzick for a faction.

c wut i did thar?

mystical nessAL

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

DDrk

W/Mo

Instead of changing appereance, it would be so much smarter to add extra bonus or something to the 15k / fow armors, it's annoying buying something worth 1m that does same effects as 1k armor.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Oh but then they'd be catering to the farmers, the ebayers, the botters, etc. by giving them an advantage over the casual players. This can't happen, it would go against their ideals as a company to make this game casual player friendly, something you can put down today and pick up 3 months from now and not miss a beat.

Other than of course the berating people with no lives, maxed titles, 1337-sauce weapons and armor, /rank emotes and other showoff goodies put upon those who this game was originally designed for.

I'm torn on giving obsidian armor an advantage. You pretty much need to farm your ass off to afford it...because drop rates are so low and you need so friggin many of each item. I mean...one person who is lucky enough to get a decent team of 8 people to clear UW the way it was intended on average gets about 3 ectos per 4 hour clear. In order to afford obsidian on just ONE of their characters, that player would need to play 140+ hours of nothing but Underworld, then another 100 or so hours of FoW just to have the materials for it. Casual? Ha! Then they nerf farming that increases the hourly rate of acquisition of these items to allow said players to spend more time actually playing the game with their new spiffy set of armor!

Is it balancing the economy, or is it keeping people from exploiting the system, getting what they want and then playing casually more often, putting less traffic on the servers which puts smaller numbers on the financial reports to investors?

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Oh but then they'd be catering to the farmers, the ebayers, the botters, etc. by giving them an advantage over the casual players. This can't happen, it would go against their ideals as a company to make this game casual player friendly, something you can put down today and pick up 3 months from now and not miss a beat.
Please explain me what advantage do botters farmers and ebayers have compared to casual player?

Do you have more energy, more armor, more health when having FoW armor on?

Do you deal more dmg, have faster recharging/casting times, higher attributes, when you have an end game weapon?

Imagine what would happen if there was no major money sink in GW.

And use collector items if you find FoW too expensive, they are free.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by holy gug
"none of us" lmao
I fail to believe your judgement better than your ability to count the numbers
Huh? What in the world are you talking about? I fail to find what you are "lmao" at, unless you didnt even read part of what I said.

I am only stating that with FoW likes and dislikes being largely preference, there will never be unanimous agreement on which sets need to be redesigned vs which are well-liked. There will always be someone who likes a particular FoW set. In this topic alone I and someone else mentioned we really liked ele FoW while someone else said they thought it was among the worst.

Count what numbers? No need. Couldnt even get agreement among some 20 posts up until that point in this topic.