Nerf the FFF [Fast Faction Farming]

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skanvak
Academy Page
#1
((I made a search and only a complain topic got out))

The FFF is not an acceptable way of gainning faction point and it is an obvious exploit of the system. The last time I tried it, it was done with 3 heroes so that people only have to sit and wait.

Why is it an exploit : because the quest is validated before the quest is even taken. Therefore the aim of the quest is NOT really fulfilled. The luxons/Kurzick that should spawn and be wipe out are simply avoid.

As the people don't do the mission technically they are not helping their faction, they are stealing the point. They don't contribute to moving the fontier BUT are the most rewarded for no effort.

How to nerf it : quite simple, the quest should update only after it is taken, theirfore the ennemy will spawn making it harder to run. Finally, a point should be validated only if the ennemy that spawn are killed. This way it would not be possible to run the quest, that is only fair.

If playing the game resume to sit and do something else while people farm for you, the title is meaningless => less willing to play. I mean this is a real problem!

Best regards,

Skanvak
Lord of "La maison des Drakkens"

Edited by Celestial Beaver: Title Clarified
Mr. G
Mr. G
Desert Nomad
#2
so give me the reason why the FFF is a BAD thing and lets try this again
legion_rat
legion_rat
Desert Nomad
#3
ok wtf is fff?


~the rat~
Mr. G
Mr. G
Desert Nomad
#4
Fast faction farming - if your luxon you wont get it - its a repeatable quest outside of lutgardis

EDIT: huh - it seems Luxons DO have a FFF - http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/FFF
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IslandHermet
Wilds Pathfinder
#5
kurz and lux FFF is as old as time. FFF is not a problem if you dont like AB style play FFF is for you if you like AB dont do FFF it is that simple. A good Aber can get the same or more Faction in the same time as the FFF farmer.
and no one really cares about the frontier lines.

Here is the best idea for you (Dont care about FFF it is that simple)
Abedeus
Abedeus
Grotto Attendant
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. G
so give me the reason why the FFF is a BAD thing and lets try this again
Uhm... It's boring... And... With heroes it takes 5-6 minutes!
...Well, if they block themselves or get killed. But it's still boring!
bungusmaximus
bungusmaximus
Forge Runner
#7
/notsigned, if they fix the waits in AB it may be a viable option, but else there will be no viable way to either: get 10k to progress in the story or donate 10k to an alliance because they own a town.

If ancestral is on and you have to accumulate 10k for your alliance you will be VERY disappointed when AB is the only way to get it.
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skanvak
Academy Page
#8
Getting 10K form AB is very faisable, especially when the fontier is on the opposite faction territory.

Difficulty is part of the game. The point : I don't understant why it should be the one doing the easy way that get the reward and not the one accepting the difficulty. Finally, the people who are doing FFF expect the point without effort. I point that it is not acceptable and kill all the fun for people wanting a somewhat challenging game.

And I agree with Abedeus, it is boring.
PureEvilYak
PureEvilYak
Lion's Arch Merchant
#9
I understand that FFF is an incredibly easy and dull way to get faction. But by setting Savior of {Allegiance} they've backed themselves into a hole. Take away FFF, and Savior is incredibly difficult, vastly long, and intensely boring (by the end) to get. Keep FFF, they mean anyone not going for max rank can take the easy way out. Yeah, it sucks, and I see your point, but theres nothing that Anet can do about it without annoying some segment of the playerbase.
greenreaper3
greenreaper3
Lion's Arch Merchant
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Uhm... It's boring... And... With heroes it takes 5-6 minutes!
...Well, if they block themselves or get killed. But it's still boring!
its boring NERF IT

just dont do it...

PS

/notsigned
Croco Clouds
Croco Clouds
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
/notsigned not matter what

sorry I haven't read the first post due to the numerous spelling mistakes
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Red Sonya
Desert Nomad
#12
/signed I agree nerf these easy exploits to get easy faction. Make players complete the WHOLE quest before they get the rewards. Require killing something or many things. That'll fix em.
Sergeant of Marines
Sergeant of Marines
Desert Nomad
#13
NOT an exploit

/notsigned

ANET has known about it for a long while now, and said nothing about it being an exploit!

Ohhh and Abedeus: it takes 50 seconds to do one run...5 mins is a bit long and exagerated greatly.
HawkofStorms
HawkofStorms
Hall Hero
#14
/notsigned

You are what... 1 and a half years too late?
Spazzer
Spazzer
Jungle Guide
#15
Fixing it now would pretty much benefit the people who maxed out their Kurzick before hand.

Luxon's the title to go if you want to be cool.
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JeniM
Desert Nomad
#16
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Originally Posted by Spazzer
Fixing it now would pretty much benefit the people who maxed out their Kurick before hand.

Luxon's the title to go if you want to be cool.
hmmm wonder why OP wants it nerfed, my guess is they have max title
/notsigned
Lurid
Lurid
Jungle Guide
#17
/notsigned

Theres no reason to nerf it. If you're going to nerf it, you might aswell nerf the luxon variant (albeit considerably slower).
DarkGanni
DarkGanni
Forge Runner
#18
/notsigned

Someone wants to ruin someone's fun again.
Diddy bow
Diddy bow
Furnace Stoker
#19
Nerfing this now would be simmilar to what loot scaling did, screw over those who havnt done it yet and have no effect on those who already have the maxed title.

/notsigned for this reason.
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Gattocheese
Lion's Arch Merchant
#20
/notsigned

Anet knows about it and is ok with it. Plus if you think it is boring or stupid you dont have to do it!