Guild wars movie
A11Eur0
So sorry to offend you, Mr. Comic Book Connoisseur.
My point is that the story doesn't need to be adhered to exactly, for it to be considered a "guild wars" story. There's alot of story potential out there that the games really just don't touch on at all, such as specific griefings between Kurzicks and Luxons...the reason for their hatred towards each other. Also, the land of Orr, the conflicts between them and the Krytans, etc. Why are the Enchanted so hostile? Why are there good Forgotten and Bad Forgotten? What's the deal with the enemy ghostly hero in Dunes? Why is he an enemy? The conflict between the deldrimor and the stone summit. Why are the stone summit such assholes? Why are the mursaat such assholes? Aren't they just doing what they feel is right according to their ancient beliefs, boundless knowledge and power? Are they all just mindless drones or do they have personalities?
So much there to touch on and make stories out of, it's almost neverending.
My point is that the story doesn't need to be adhered to exactly, for it to be considered a "guild wars" story. There's alot of story potential out there that the games really just don't touch on at all, such as specific griefings between Kurzicks and Luxons...the reason for their hatred towards each other. Also, the land of Orr, the conflicts between them and the Krytans, etc. Why are the Enchanted so hostile? Why are there good Forgotten and Bad Forgotten? What's the deal with the enemy ghostly hero in Dunes? Why is he an enemy? The conflict between the deldrimor and the stone summit. Why are the stone summit such assholes? Why are the mursaat such assholes? Aren't they just doing what they feel is right according to their ancient beliefs, boundless knowledge and power? Are they all just mindless drones or do they have personalities?
So much there to touch on and make stories out of, it's almost neverending.
Sleeper Service
? not offended.
but theres a difference between having thousands of stories to pick from and characters with decades of character development behind them and something like "...Why are the stone summit such assholes?..." its like asking "why is Bison/Vega such a asshole?" and that generally in game to movie ports results in script writing along the lines of "because he is evil and wants to take over the world (muahahaha)"
theres lack of depth and well...
now lets look at comics : "why is magneto evil?"
"why does spiderman bother?"
"whats up with Hellboy?"
admitedly there have been a truckload of comic inspired movies that were nearly as shit as your regular videogame port and who knows maybe GW could make a decent movie but barring the overall universe itself you would have to start from pretty much scratch.
but theres a difference between having thousands of stories to pick from and characters with decades of character development behind them and something like "...Why are the stone summit such assholes?..." its like asking "why is Bison/Vega such a asshole?" and that generally in game to movie ports results in script writing along the lines of "because he is evil and wants to take over the world (muahahaha)"
theres lack of depth and well...
now lets look at comics : "why is magneto evil?"
"why does spiderman bother?"
"whats up with Hellboy?"
admitedly there have been a truckload of comic inspired movies that were nearly as shit as your regular videogame port and who knows maybe GW could make a decent movie but barring the overall universe itself you would have to start from pretty much scratch.
A11Eur0
My very oversimplified question of Why are the Stone Summit such assholes is pretty much a question asking where the feud between the two sides come from? Then, you expand on that by creating a backstory, some characters, hash out some battles and whatnot...and you have yourself a nice little mini-movie or side story in a much larger film.
I'm not expecting a huge trilogy like LOTR, because LOTR has been around much much much much longer, and has a much much much much larger fanbase than GW. But...what's to say you can't sit down, hash out a story revolving around the land of tyria, involving various heroes and villains in the game stories that all seem to come together anyway in some shape or form? A game isn't very personal...it doesn't have time to be. You can't sit down and get to know your character outside your own imagination...the game tells you about other characters and you just play a spectator. You're an Extra in a larger film about Rurik, Togo, mhenlo, Kormir...etc. You can go as big or as small as you want in something like this...those other video-game movies fail because they didn't think outside the box...they felt they HAD TO follow the story or make the movie look exactly like the game in order to attract the same fanbase.
If they were to make a Halo movie, I wouldn't expect it to be a live action + CG rehash of the exact plot in the games. I'd expect some differences.
Final Fantasy Spirits Within: Was a really good story. I liked it. The movie was damn good too...you got to know the characters. Why don't other people like it? I really don't know...it followed the general principles of the Final Fantasy universe. Maybe because it didn't have familiar characters from the games? Maybe it was a little too sci-fi and not enough fantasy? No magic...it's just spirits/ghosts and technology clashing. No deep link between the main character and the antagonist, other than a seed planted...no personal relationship with any tangible villain. But it was still an excellent story nonetheless. A GW movie could very well be a hit, but it could also be a Dud...it all depends on how much effort, money, and love Anet wants to put into it. I've made comments on here and elsewhere that Anet only cares about the buck. Well...there are some things out there that show me that they really do care a little about the principle of the game, the story, and the fans who love it. Whether they would choose to put this into another form of mass media, that's yet to be seen.
I'm not expecting a huge trilogy like LOTR, because LOTR has been around much much much much longer, and has a much much much much larger fanbase than GW. But...what's to say you can't sit down, hash out a story revolving around the land of tyria, involving various heroes and villains in the game stories that all seem to come together anyway in some shape or form? A game isn't very personal...it doesn't have time to be. You can't sit down and get to know your character outside your own imagination...the game tells you about other characters and you just play a spectator. You're an Extra in a larger film about Rurik, Togo, mhenlo, Kormir...etc. You can go as big or as small as you want in something like this...those other video-game movies fail because they didn't think outside the box...they felt they HAD TO follow the story or make the movie look exactly like the game in order to attract the same fanbase.
If they were to make a Halo movie, I wouldn't expect it to be a live action + CG rehash of the exact plot in the games. I'd expect some differences.
Final Fantasy Spirits Within: Was a really good story. I liked it. The movie was damn good too...you got to know the characters. Why don't other people like it? I really don't know...it followed the general principles of the Final Fantasy universe. Maybe because it didn't have familiar characters from the games? Maybe it was a little too sci-fi and not enough fantasy? No magic...it's just spirits/ghosts and technology clashing. No deep link between the main character and the antagonist, other than a seed planted...no personal relationship with any tangible villain. But it was still an excellent story nonetheless. A GW movie could very well be a hit, but it could also be a Dud...it all depends on how much effort, money, and love Anet wants to put into it. I've made comments on here and elsewhere that Anet only cares about the buck. Well...there are some things out there that show me that they really do care a little about the principle of the game, the story, and the fans who love it. Whether they would choose to put this into another form of mass media, that's yet to be seen.
legion_rat
can we have the guy who does squidwurd on spongebob be Togo?
I really wanna hear togo say "Your killing me shiro...no really you killing me."
~the rat~
I really wanna hear togo say "Your killing me shiro...no really you killing me."
~the rat~
x-stunt-x
well thanks to guru kicking me for 7 days for my freedom of speech thing it pushed me to start playing hellgate london and i couldn't care less what happiens with the idea of the movie good job guru!
Sleeper Service
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well thanks to guru kicking me for 7 days for my freedom of speech thing it pushed me to start playing hellgate london and i couldn't care less what happiens with the idea of the movie good job guru!
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its crap.
im scary sometimes.
MithranArkanere
As long as they do not make plain detritus like they did with things like Super Mario Bros or Street Fighter...
Brrr... just thinking about those...
Brrr... just thinking about those...
A11Eur0
And to think I liked Street Fighter...for a time.
Mortal Kombat...now that was a bad series.
Mortal Kombat...now that was a bad series.
warcrap
well if any1 read book 1 of the guild wars manuscripts you would know that gw has a very awesome and unique story that would fit perfect to be published into a book and/or movie.
hopefully both.
hopefully both.
MithranArkanere
Do not forget comics, cartoon, light novel, etc...
HawkofStorms
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well thanks to guru kicking me for 7 days for my freedom of speech thing it pushed me to start playing hellgate london and i couldn't care less what happiens with the idea of the movie good job guru!
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Terra Xin
The street fighter movie pissed me off. It was just too wrong. E-honda wasn't pasty white. Ryu and Ken weren't all that muscular. Chun-Li didn't show off her sexy legs.... Dhalsim was a professor and not a witch doctor>??? I think Jean Claude would be the only one to suit the character he was given, go Guile!! The animated movie, however.... damn that was awesome!!
I'm a little skeptical about a Guild Wars movie. I would encourage that Anet make one (but not for like another 5 years)
I'm a little skeptical about a Guild Wars movie. I would encourage that Anet make one (but not for like another 5 years)
Dean Harper
or just make the movie last during battles of the searing, starring Adain, Devona, Mhenlo, and Cynn. maybe adding in Eve or some other chars. Also add in Prince Rurik.
koobla
OMG, get ALL the celebrities that most obviously are the WORST choices for every part! I'd love it!
koss= 50 cent?
Rurik= Vin Diesel
The Lich= oprah?!?
Togo= Tiger woods
Shiro= Jackie Chan (with long hair ftw)
Fill in the rest im too high to think straight right now ~_~
koss= 50 cent?
Rurik= Vin Diesel
The Lich= oprah?!?
Togo= Tiger woods
Shiro= Jackie Chan (with long hair ftw)
Fill in the rest im too high to think straight right now ~_~
Biostem
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well thanks to guru kicking me for 7 days for my freedom of speech thing it pushed me to start playing hellgate london and i couldn't care less what happiens with the idea of the movie good job guru!
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LuckyStripe
NO.
Almost every movie that has originated from a game has been terrible.
Almost every movie that has originated from a game has been terrible.
monstersparkler
It should be made into a very short film.
Also it should play like a comic I once read about what real life would be like if it were an MMO.
"How do you breathe in this game?"
"Press Help"
"I'm not doing that it's for noobs just tell me how to breathe"
<suffocate, die>
Not exact quotes, I read it a long time ago but that was the general gist of it.
Also it should play like a comic I once read about what real life would be like if it were an MMO.
"How do you breathe in this game?"
"Press Help"
"I'm not doing that it's for noobs just tell me how to breathe"
<suffocate, die>
Not exact quotes, I read it a long time ago but that was the general gist of it.
Operative 14
I do think that the Guild Wars idea could lead to a very interesting movie idea and storyline. However, trying to meld the elements of the game in wouldn't work.
I think for a movie about Guild Wars to be successful, the only thing that it has about Guild Wars in it would be the names of the lands and the general topography... And possibly some skale.
I think for a movie about Guild Wars to be successful, the only thing that it has about Guild Wars in it would be the names of the lands and the general topography... And possibly some skale.
Vickie
Surprised nobody mentioned Silent Hill on their list? The movie was supposedly so impressive that they actually considered (but later rejected, thankfully!) remaking the original game based on the movie based on the game?
But if there should ever be a GW movie, it has to be animated and based on the (mis)adventure of our 5 henchies. Cynn also has to spend 5 seconds casting Meteor Shower in it. I don't care on what, mobs or Mhenlo.
ROFL that too.
But if there should ever be a GW movie, it has to be animated and based on the (mis)adventure of our 5 henchies. Cynn also has to spend 5 seconds casting Meteor Shower in it. I don't care on what, mobs or Mhenlo.
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Just make a series of adult movies starring Mhenlo and various female npcs from the story.
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Sleeper Service
i thought Silent Hill was terrible.
the comic spin off on the other hand is VERY impressive. (Templesmith rules)
the comic spin off on the other hand is VERY impressive. (Templesmith rules)
Zahr Dalsk
Must be Uwe Boll or George Lucas directed, for hilarity at incredibly bad movie-directing skills.
pumpkin pie
Oh I found a very good person to script this with Peter jackson. lol, not actually found but he would be perfect to help make Guild Wars into the first GAME INTO MOVIE movie that does not suck. :P
Neil Gaiman + Peter Jackson.
Stefen Fangmeier - the guy that made eragon bad, can be the Animation Director, not the movie director. if there's one thing worth watching in eragon, its the Dragon's animation and I think Stefen Fangmeier should stick to Animation Direction.
Robert de Niro - no matter what, I want him in the movie :P lol, 64 years old, just find him a part to play and it be perfect.
Neil Gaiman + Peter Jackson.
Stefen Fangmeier - the guy that made eragon bad, can be the Animation Director, not the movie director. if there's one thing worth watching in eragon, its the Dragon's animation and I think Stefen Fangmeier should stick to Animation Direction.
Robert de Niro - no matter what, I want him in the movie :P lol, 64 years old, just find him a part to play and it be perfect.
Operative 14
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Robert de Niro - no matter what, I want him in the movie :P lol, 64 years old, just find him a part to play and it be perfect. |
Kanyatta
If they came up with a different (read: decent) story, then /signed.
If they reused the story from the games, /notsigned (you can't tell me you couldnt tell the Vizier was evil from the moment you met him)
If they reused the story from the games, /notsigned (you can't tell me you couldnt tell the Vizier was evil from the moment you met him)
x-stunt-x
carrot top and pauly shore have to be in it
Clarissa F
For those saying "WoW has a movie...we need one." The Warcraft saga has been around for over ten years, and its actual storyline(Lich, Horde, etc) is simple and tight enough to make a movie around. Yeah, it won't be the actual gamer's experience, but they can do a good job out of that simple storyline.
GW would probably be regulated to a SciFi miniseries, like the "ever wonderful" Dune and Earthsea miniseries, and we all know how good they were :P
GW would probably be regulated to a SciFi miniseries, like the "ever wonderful" Dune and Earthsea miniseries, and we all know how good they were :P
JeniM
WoW has a movie . . .
Never mind the "State of the game" threads, we need a "State of the world" thread
Never mind the "State of the game" threads, we need a "State of the world" thread
ValaOfTheFens
If a GW movie followed the actual gameplay and not the storyline...
Ranger: Ok. I have this really awesome build with Firestorm and...
Warrior: No. I had to give up Mending and so you better give up Firestorm.
Ranger: But my build doesn't work with out it!
Monk: Go find a new group please.
Warrior: Let's talk about my Frenzy build...
Necro: Can we go please? We've been in this town forever.
Paragon: Hey guys! Can I play with you?
Group: NO!
Paragon: I should have listened to Mesmer!(runs away crying)
Good thing no one would ever make a movie like that.
Ranger: Ok. I have this really awesome build with Firestorm and...
Warrior: No. I had to give up Mending and so you better give up Firestorm.
Ranger: But my build doesn't work with out it!
Monk: Go find a new group please.
Warrior: Let's talk about my Frenzy build...
Necro: Can we go please? We've been in this town forever.
Paragon: Hey guys! Can I play with you?
Group: NO!
Paragon: I should have listened to Mesmer!(runs away crying)
Good thing no one would ever make a movie like that.
pumpkin pie
ROMAFL....
Scene, Kamadan early morning
A: WTS mini asura!
B: Looking for Taxi to Dock!
C: Anyone give me 50g for storage!!!!
D: Lazy, go out and kill something!
Oh wait I have the perfect conversation for this, need to scrap some names first... lol
witness that in temple of balthazar
Scene, Kamadan early morning
A: WTS mini asura!
B: Looking for Taxi to Dock!
C: Anyone give me 50g for storage!!!!
D: Lazy, go out and kill something!
Oh wait I have the perfect conversation for this, need to scrap some names first... lol
witness that in temple of balthazar
Ambuu
/signed....
with Tom Cruise as the warrior. To reenact the katana throw as seen in "The Last Samurai"
with Tom Cruise as the warrior. To reenact the katana throw as seen in "The Last Samurai"
lakatz
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make a movie before WoW does
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If guild wars were a movie started 9.21.06
Guild Wars Movie started 10.26.06
Guild Wars Movie started 12.10.06... for starters
FYI, the search function has been working and working well since Guru changed servers.
AND for those who don't remember, Blizzard Entertainment and Legendary Pictures both issued press releases on May 9, 2006, announcing their partnership on a new W.O.W. film to be released by Warner Bros Pictures. There hasn't been a peep in the press since. That speaks volumes about the likelihood of a W.O.W. film getting past "talking about it" which is what Blizzard and Legendary are still doing. Furthermore, you can't find "World of Warcraft" in IMDb, but under Legendary in IMDb you can find "Warcraft." That's a bit of a change... from W.O.W. to Warcraft. Probably smart... but is it smart to release the film in 2009 as they currently plan (or recently planned) to do?
Raise your hand if you know of a good film that has translated well to a game. Now... raise your hand if you know of a good game that has translated well to film.
Hasn't happened yet, but they keep trying... Peter Jackson, Steven Spielberg, John Woo... and who? Vin Diesel?... are all entering the games industry. They keep trying, but I think Spielberg is the one who has the right idea... he has no plans to try to mix the two. Maybe because it's a bad idea?
Eragon of Aleria
WOW (not WoW) this is a great idea!!! The storyline is there, the characters are developed, and the possibility is there.
"Certainty of death, *small* chance of success... What are we waiting for?" ~Gimli
"Certainty of death, *small* chance of success... What are we waiting for?" ~Gimli
pumpkin pie
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AND for those who don't remember, Blizzard Entertainment and Legendary Pictures both issued press releases on May 9, 2006, announcing their partnership on a new W.O.W. film to be released by Warner Bros Pictures. There hasn't been a peep in the press since. That speaks volumes about the likelihood of a W.O.W. film getting past "talking about it" which is what Blizzard and Legendary are still doing. Furthermore, you can't find "World of Warcraft" in IMDb, but under Legendary in IMDb you can find "Warcraft." That's a bit of a change... from W.O.W. to Warcraft. Probably smart... but is it smart to release the film in 2009 as they currently plan (or recently planned) to do?
Raise your hand if you know of a good film that has translated well to a game. Now... raise your hand if you know of a good game that has translated well to film. Hasn't happened yet, but they keep trying... Peter Jackson, Steven Spielberg, John Woo... and who? Vin Diesel?... are all entering the games industry. They keep trying, but I think Spielberg is the one who has the right idea... he has no plans to try to mix the two. Maybe because it's a bad idea? |
Pokémon - Supported by the successful anime series, the first Pokémon movie is still the highest grossing anime film at the United States Box Office as of 2005.
U.S. Box Office Gross: $85,744,662 (Pokémon: The First Movie), $43,758,684 (Pokémon: The Movie 2000), $1,727,447 (Pokémon 4ever), $746,381 (Pokémon Heroes)
It isn't a bad idea to make video games into movie, on contrary, it is a very good idea to make video games into movies, because they do the most important thing any company would dream to want, THEY MAKE MONEY. They have millions of potential target audience. the movie need no advertisement, it is waited upon by millions of players who potential wants to see the movie regardless if the movie is good or bad.
Super Mario Bros. U.S. Box Office Gross: $20,915,465
Street Fighter: U.S. Box Office Gross: $33,423,521
Double Dragon: U.S. Box Office Gross: $2,341,309
Mortal Kombat U.S. Box Office Gross: $70,454,098
Mortal Kombat: U.S. Box Office Gross: Annihilation $35,927,406
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_movie
Before Warcraft is out, I would not make any comments as to how this particular video game into movie movie is going to turn out, not just yet, becuase the company that is producing the movie, they may just be the first one to make a Video Games into Movies that MAKE MONEY and is also GOOD. the people on board the project are responsible for 300. enough said there.
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH !!!! legendary pictures is making Where the Wild Things Are!!!!! woohoooooo and 10,000 bc, i think I will put my faith in them to make a good WoW movie. and till then I will keep my fingers crossed. WOOHOOOO!!!
PS: I think 2006 is way too far back for a thread to be ressurected, and since all those thread has nothing interesting in them other then, one liner comments, I think this one is just fine.
above comment are solely in my humble opinion.
Sleeper Service
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Raise your hand if you know of a good film that has translated well to a game. Now... raise your hand if you know of a good game that has translated well to film. Hasn't happened yet, but they keep trying... Peter Jackson, Steven Spielberg, John Woo... and who? Vin Diesel?... are all entering the games industry. They keep trying, but I think Spielberg is the one who has the right idea... he has no plans to try to mix the two. Maybe because it's a bad idea? |
"The Thing" isint too shoddy either.
in both cases neither is a direct port and they can be played/viewed separately with no impact on storyline other than learning a bit more on the storyverse.
imo oc.
ValaOfTheFens
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Pokémon - Supported by the successful anime series, the first Pokémon movie is still the highest grossing anime film at the United States Box Office as of 2005.
U.S. Box Office Gross: $85,744,662 (Pokémon: The First Movie), $43,758,684 (Pokémon: The Movie 2000), $1,727,447 (Pokémon 4ever), $746,381 (Pokémon Heroes) |
lakatz
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
I Raise Hand for all the children who love pokemon, for good game that has translated well into film. ask the millions of pokemon fans, the children who watch, re-watch and then buy the DvD and watch it repeatedly at home.
Pokémon - Supported by the successful anime series, the first Pokémon movie is still the highest grossing anime film at the United States Box Office as of 2005. U.S. Box Office Gross: $85,744,662 (Pokémon: The First Movie), $43,758,684 (Pokémon: The Movie 2000), $1,727,447 (Pokémon 4ever), $746,381 (Pokémon Heroes) It isn't a bad idea to make video games into movie, on contrary, it is a very good idea to make video games into movies, because they do the most important thing any company would dream to want, THEY MAKE MONEY. They have millions of potential target audience. the movie need no advertisement, it is waited upon by millions of players who potential wants to see the movie regardless if the movie is good or bad. Super Mario Bros. U.S. Box Office Gross: $20,915,465 Street Fighter: U.S. Box Office Gross: $33,423,521 Double Dragon: U.S. Box Office Gross: $2,341,309 Mortal Kombat U.S. Box Office Gross: $70,454,098 Mortal Kombat: U.S. Box Office Gross: Annihilation $35,927,406 source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_movie Before Warcraft is out, I would not make any comments as to how this particular video game into movie movie is going to turn out, not just yet, becuase the company that is producing the movie, they may just be the first one to make a Video Games into Movies that MAKE MONEY and is also GOOD. the people on board the project are responsible for 300. enough said there. AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH !!!! legendary pictures is making Where the Wild Things Are!!!!! woohoooooo and 10,000 bc, i think I will put my faith in them to make a good WoW movie. and till then I will keep my fingers crossed. WOOHOOOO!!! PS: I think 2006 is way too far back for a thread to be ressurected, and since all those thread has nothing interesting in them other then, one liner comments, I think this one is just fine. above comment are solely in my humble opinion. |
Here's a clue... "American Gangster" made $46MM in its first weekend, and in the 17 days since its initial release it's made $101MM. The Mortal Kombat movies were made in 1995 and 1997. The second Mortal Kombat movie made 58% of its total gross in the first weekend. Do you understand what that means? That means word-of-mouth was so bad that once it got out people quit going to see it.
And if my word is not enough (despite my many years experience working in the film and television industry), here's a couple of statements from your own source, Wikipedia, that should convince you:
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"Apart from being generally regarded as a classic example of bad filmmaking, this movie was partially responsible for causing the Mortal Kombat franchise to lose strength during the late '90s." |
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"Pre-production on Mortal Kombat: Devastation was initially scheduled to commence shortly after the release of Annihilation, but was shelved due to its poor box-office performance." |
And look at the (really bad) figures you've quoted for Pokemon. In spite of the fact the Pokemon movies and television shows do appeal to 4 and 5 year olds (not the age group that would be targeted with a Guild Wars film), the box office gross goes down down down with each new release.
On rottentomatoes.com, the ratings for your choices are as follows:
Super Mario Bros. - released in 1994 and not rated (however, the pathetic box office gross you posted speaks volumes about the failure of this film)
Street Fighter - 27% - ouch!
Double Dragon - released in 1995 and not rated (however, the super pathetic box office gross you posted speaks volumes about the failure of this film)
Mortal Kombat - 20%... oooch ouch!
Mortal Kombat: Annihilation - 4% ouch! ouch! ouch! bad! bad! bad!
Pokemon (the first movie) - 14% - don't even use children's movies to prove your point about a film that would target teens and above.
Now compare those ratings to a film NOT adapted from a game:
American Gangster - 79%
My statement was (to quote):
"Now... raise your hand if you know of a good game that has translated well to film."
The crap films you've thrown out do not represent games that translated well to films in the least and your "information" is neither thoughtful nor informed. Please don't insult my intelligence or denigrate my efforts at having an intelligent discourse about films, games and film making by coming back with crap that anyone with an iq over 90 can knock over with a sigh.
Keep in mind too that 300 was adapted from a graphic novel and "Where The Wild Things Are" is a children's book. Neither are games. Games are a different animal altogether, and to date have not translated well at all to film.
And while we're on the subject of 300, it got a 60% rating on rottentomatoes.com and 49% from their cream of the crop. Uh oh... not good.
Furthermore, since it appears you have no experience in the film business and I do, I'll explain something very elementary to you. Success is not guaranteed. All the best production companies (of which Legendary is not one) have their share of failures as well, and all the best directors do too. None of Legendary's films to date have been blockbusters... they can boast only a couple of minor successes thus far... so their potential for failure, particularly with a genre that has failed time and time again... is strong.
Thank you.
Tender Wolf
Awesome! Been wanting this to happen for a while. And since there are 10 professions, there could be 5 of each gender, like this:
Male:
Elementalist
Ranger
Mesmer
Assassin
Warrior
Female:
Dervish
Paragon
Necromancer
Ritualist
Monk
Mostly those choices because I'm not big on guys in skirts. lmao
Male:
Elementalist
Ranger
Mesmer
Assassin
Warrior
Female:
Dervish
Paragon
Necromancer
Ritualist
Monk
Mostly those choices because I'm not big on guys in skirts. lmao
pumpkin pie
my point in case you did not read my post clearly: very good idea to make computer game into movie BECAUSE THEY MAKE MONEY
No it does not proof your point, read on.
Yes, Does mortal kombat make money? I think they must have, hence Mortal Kombat 2.... (my point, they make money, and I am not here to show off my "oh so impecable taste")
This is not in comparison to Guild Wars, its saying that this video game made into movie movie, hey guess what, proof MY POINT they make money. and if that's not enough:
1000 movies from number 1 to number 1000, source http://www.movieweb.com/movies/boxof...e.php?page=26&
Runaway Jury at number 1000 grossing with $49.441000 and Pokemon the first movie grossing with U.S. Box Office Gross: $85,744,662, omg it must not be making money... Yeah I still say pokemon is a video game into movie movie that make money. MY POINT BEING IT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THEY MAKE MONEY. So sorry, no, it does not proof your point. Cos, they made money.
erm so? yes, rotten tomatoes say jump out the window.
who cares, they make money
Now compare those ratings to a film NOT adapted from a game:
American Gangster - 79%
My statement was (to quote):
Read above.
wow. thank you, you just show me how much of a person you are.
I did not say these are vidoe game made into movies, I said the production studio that made these film are very good, and until they make a lousy Warcraft movie, I am not going to give any comment, and will wait until I see it, and if you ask me, I put my faith in them anytime, as oppose to points given by someone who cliam they have experience in the movie and tv industries. not impress, thank you very much.
Yes, listen to rotten tomatoes, rotten tomatoes say jump out the window. Now, American Gangster at a rating of 79% grossed at $91,689,000 (US total) 300 at ratings of 60% grossed at $210,592,590 (US total) yes, that should tell you what rotten tomatoes ratings reliability are.
Yes, and I need someone who has experience in the film businees to tell me that every one encounter failures in their life and business. That is commond sense, you don't need a degree to know that, thank you very much.
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Why would you quote those awful box office grosses to make your point? Do you understand what a box office gross is? It's not profit. It's weighed against the total costs to determine profit. Those numbers suck. They really suck... and they accurately reflect the rottentomatoes.com ratings for those films as well, and they prove my point... not yours.
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Here's a clue... "American Gangster" made $46MM in its first weekend, and in the 17 days since its initial release it's made $101MM. The Mortal Kombat movies were made in 1995 and 1997. The second Mortal Kombat movie made 58% of its total gross in the first weekend. Do you understand what that means? That means word-of-mouth was so bad that once it got out people quit going to see it.
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And if my word is not enough (despite my many years experience working in the film and television industry), here's a couple of statements from your own source, Wikipedia, that should convince you:
andhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_...:_Annihilation And look at the (really bad) figures you've quoted for Pokemon. In spite of the fact the Pokemon movies and television shows do appeal to 4 and 5 year olds (not the age group that would be targeted with a Guild Wars film), the box office gross goes down down down with each new release. |
1000 movies from number 1 to number 1000, source http://www.movieweb.com/movies/boxof...e.php?page=26&
Runaway Jury at number 1000 grossing with $49.441000 and Pokemon the first movie grossing with U.S. Box Office Gross: $85,744,662, omg it must not be making money... Yeah I still say pokemon is a video game into movie movie that make money. MY POINT BEING IT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THEY MAKE MONEY. So sorry, no, it does not proof your point. Cos, they made money.
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On rottentomatoes.com, the ratings for your choices are as follows:
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Super Mario Bros. - released in 1994 and not rated (however, the pathetic box office gross you posted speaks volumes about the failure of this film)
Street Fighter - 27% - ouch! Double Dragon - released in 1995 and not rated (however, the super pathetic box office gross you posted speaks volumes about the failure of this film) Mortal Kombat - 20%... oooch ouch! Mortal Kombat: Annihilation - 4% ouch! ouch! ouch! bad! bad! bad! Pokemon (the first movie) - 14% - don't even use children's movies to prove your point about a film that would target teens and above. |
Now compare those ratings to a film NOT adapted from a game:
American Gangster - 79%
My statement was (to quote):
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"Now... raise your hand if you know of a good game that has translated well to film."
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The crap films you've thrown out do not represent games that translated well to films in the least and your "information" is neither thoughtful nor informed. Please don't insult my intelligence or denigrate my efforts at having an intelligent discourse about films, games and film making by coming back with crap that anyone with an iq over 90 can knock over with a sigh.
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Keep in mind too that 300 was adapted from a graphic novel and "Where The Wild Things Are" is a children's book. Neither are games. Games are a different animal altogether, and to date have not translated well at all to film.
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And while we're on the subject of 300, it got a 60% rating on rottentomatoes.com and 49% from their cream of the crop. Uh oh... not good.
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Furthermore, since it appears you have no experience in the film business and I do, I'll explain something very elementary to you. Success is not guaranteed. All the best production companies (of which Legendary is not one) have their share of failures as well, and all the best directors do too. None of Legendary's films to date have been blockbusters... they can boast only a couple of minor successes thus far... so their potential for failure, particularly with a genre that has failed time and time again... is strong.
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my point in case you did not read my post clearly: very good idea to make computer game into movie BECAUSE THEY MAKE MONEY
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Umm... they didn't. Apparently you didn't even read that guy's post. Sales =/= net profit.
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Sales =/= net profit =/= good movie