Thinking outside the wiki

Shadowmere

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

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08 Nov 2007 at 07:17 - 1
Having played all the classess quite a bit, the ritualist stands out to me, yes it's my favorite class. But it's my favorite class largely because to me the ritualist is about the only class that really promotes making your own builds. Aside from splinter barraging there's not really any major build you see advertised, for the most part each rit's bar is of their own design.

I love this uniqueness and individuality the rits have, and at least with me after tinkering with my rit I feel more confident about trashing my other character's wiki-builds and trying new things myself.

Does anyone else feel the same way? that rits help players think outside the box and be more creative?


P.S. there is still plenty to do outside the indomitable duo (splinter & ancestors)

BigDave

BigDave

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Manchester, UK

The Sapphire Rose [TSR]

08 Nov 2007 at 12:27 - 2
I frequently use a Rt/A Spirits Strength build in AB/RA. It's amazing how many people you can catch out if you go for the right targets. I use different variations depending on who i feel like going after. One makes it hard to kite, another hard to block, another just does insane dmg. All good fun.

Rits can do a large variety of things. They can heal, very well. They can spike. They can do massive AoE under the right conditions. They can melee, weak on the defence but the offense is huge. And setting up an offensive spirit line and watching a wammo suicide on them is always good for a laugh

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/

08 Nov 2007 at 16:11 - 3
:S which wiki are you talking about? Theres a WHOLE BIG range of Rt builds on wiki...

Build:Rt/A Offensive Promiser
Build:Rt/A Promising Shelter
Build:Rt/D Spirit Scythe
Build:Rt/D Tsungrai Forge Runner
Build:Rt/E WoQ Support Rit
Build:Rt/Me Echo Rifts
Build:Rt/Me Vengeful Farmer
Build:Rt/Mo 105hp Vengeful Veil
Build:Rt/Mo 330hp Vengeful Spirit Bonder
Build:Rt/Mo Rupture Support
Build:Rt/Mo Zeal of the Heal
Build:Rt/N Explosive Creation
Build:Rt/P Summon Envy
Build:Rt/P Vocal Supporter
Build:Rt/R Battle Meditation
Build:Rt/R Spirit Bow
Build:Rt/R Wanderlust Lord
Build:Rt/W Smite Crawler Farmer
Build:Rt/W Spirit Warrior
Build:Rt/any Attuned Channeler
Build:Rt/any Attuned Spirit
Build:Rt/any Attuned was Songkai Healer
Build:Rt/any Battlebox Spirit Spammer
Build:Rt/any Grasping Bomber
Build:Rt/any High Energy Rit Lord
Build:Rt/any Mobile Spirits
Build:Rt/any OoS Support Rit
Build:Rt/any Quick Channeler
Build:Rt/any Soothing Remedy
Build:Rt/any Spirit SW Support
Build:Rt/any Spirit's Might
Build:Rt/any Spiritforge
Build:Rt/any Weapon of Recovery
Build:Rt/any WoF Support Ritualist

Those are plenty of builds on wiki... thats ONLY PvE section too... theres tons more for PvP aswell....

Thinking outside the box... I been making my own builds since factions came out (When I started playing) to get better at build making.. assasin is the way to go. why? because assasins have to make effective builds using low AL, and low damage weps, another reason is chains, as an assasin you cant just go spamming dragon slash like a warrior :S....

Shadowmere

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

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08 Nov 2007 at 16:45 - 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
:S which wiki are you talking about? Theres a WHOLE BIG range of Rt builds on wiki...

Build:Rt/A Offensive Promiser
Build:Rt/A Promising Shelter
Build:Rt/D Spirit Scythe
Build:Rt/D Tsungrai Forge Runner
Build:Rt/E WoQ Support Rit
Build:Rt/Me Echo Rifts
Build:Rt/Me Vengeful Farmer
Build:Rt/Mo 105hp Vengeful Veil
Build:Rt/Mo 330hp Vengeful Spirit Bonder
Build:Rt/Mo Rupture Support
Build:Rt/Mo Zeal of the Heal
Build:Rt/N Explosive Creation
Build:Rt/P Summon Envy
Build:Rt/P Vocal Supporter
Build:Rt/R Battle Meditation
Build:Rt/R Spirit Bow
Build:Rt/R Wanderlust Lord
Build:Rt/W Smite Crawler Farmer
Build:Rt/W Spirit Warrior
Build:Rt/any Attuned Channeler
Build:Rt/any Attuned Spirit
Build:Rt/any Attuned was Songkai Healer
Build:Rt/any Battlebox Spirit Spammer
Build:Rt/any Grasping Bomber
Build:Rt/any High Energy Rit Lord
Build:Rt/any Mobile Spirits
Build:Rt/any OoS Support Rit
Build:Rt/any Quick Channeler
Build:Rt/any Soothing Remedy
Build:Rt/any Spirit SW Support
Build:Rt/any Spirit's Might
Build:Rt/any Spiritforge
Build:Rt/any Weapon of Recovery
Build:Rt/any WoF Support Ritualist

Those are plenty of builds on wiki... thats ONLY PvE section too... theres tons more for PvP aswell.... That's a sizable list, but how many of those have you ever seen advertised? or asked for? and how many are rated "good"? last time I checked over half those are falling out of favor

My point was that there isn't really any wiki-build that is standard "the best" for rits, unlike necros (MM/SS/SV) or Eles (SF much?). See rits don't have that, sure there's a wiki list, but I have yet to see somone point out to me "The" resto build or w/e, you know?

glountz

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

08 Nov 2007 at 16:47 - 5
You don't have to think outside the wiki, coz the wiki is completely off the metagame and what is really used and working.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

08 Nov 2007 at 19:01 - 6
Wiki builds are terribad. I don't see a single splinter/rage build in there, and that makes me sad.

You can sometimes get useful information out of the PvP build section there, and some of the farming build stuff is ok, but the general PvE build section is... bad.

Azaya

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Lion and Dragon

Me/

08 Nov 2007 at 19:12 - 7
A few of the general PvE builds are good for getting ideas, but beyond that.. meh.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

08 Nov 2007 at 20:04 - 8
W00t for my making my own build.

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/

08 Nov 2007 at 20:40 - 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmere
That's a sizable list, but how many of those have you ever seen advertised? or asked for? and how many are rated "good"? last time I checked over half those are falling out of favor

My point was that there isn't really any wiki-build that is standard "the best" for rits, unlike necros (MM/SS/SV) or Eles (SF much?). See rits don't have that, sure there's a wiki list, but I have yet to see somone point out to me "The" resto build or w/e, you know? Your forgetting SH on the ele list :P. But generally all builds for PvE and PvP on wiki suck except for farming and maybe a few good builds here and there... But the only build I currently use off of wiki is warrior ds spamm.. and thats well... cus its the best war build for PvE out there :P.

Bargamer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Rt/N

09 Nov 2007 at 19:45 - 10
Explosive Creation/ Minion Bomber is my "original" build, all the way from the Factions Preview Weekend. Just my luck several people thought of it, too. I felt pretty creative when I thought of it, and kept updating the build as Nightfall and GW:EN came out.

Mist Walker Skarloc

Mist Walker Skarloc

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Gods Of The Hot [GotH]

P/W

09 Nov 2007 at 19:53 - 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Wiki builds are terribad. I don't see a single splinter/rage build in there, and that makes me sad.

You can sometimes get useful information out of the PvP build section there, and some of the farming build stuff is ok, but the general PvE build section is... bad. Yeah, wtf is up with the lack of Splinter+AR? How could nobody have added one by now?