LoD: keep it or replace it?

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You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yichi
Don't run LoD....

Sorry but negating damage > over healing damage. With holy haste's function where it ends it you cast an enchantment, its not worth gimping a bad bar now since the buff to WoH. Did I say this was better than a WoH bar?
Did I say this was better then a hybrid bar?
Did I say this was the best bar out there?

The OP is looking for useful ways to incorperate LoD. This bar allows you to spam party heals in a situation where you're fighting mobs with AoE spells and good DPS. This bar will still prevail on someone running WoH where all the party is taking damage from spells like SS. Yes, that can be removed, but there are often cover hexes that mobs will throw on the target.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
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[skill]holy haste[/skill][skill]light of deliverance[/skill][skill]heal party[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]heal other[/skill][skill]healing touch[/skill][skill]infuse health[/skill][skill]resurrection chant[/skill]

OR [skill]dismiss condition[/skill][skill]cure hex[/skill]

Depending on where you are. This doesn't look to bad for HM along with a Protection Monk or possibly a bonder.

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
This doesn't look to bad for HM along with a Protection Monk or possibly a bonder. I've used it effectively in most of GWEN on my monk just for the heck of it. I've also used it in FoW/UW vanquishing. Though, my bar looked more like this when I did FoW + UW. It worked ok, but there are better ones out there.


[skill]holy haste[/skill][skill]light of deliverance[/skill][skill]heal party[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]cure hex[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill][skill]dismiss condition[/skill][skill]resurrection chant[/skill]

Our other monk was a bonder, you guessed right. His bar looked something like:

[skill]balthazar's spirit[/skill][skill]life attunement[/skill][skill]life bond[/skill][skill]protective spirit[/skill][skill]reversal of fortune[/skill][skill]zealous benediction[/skill][skill]spirit bond[/skill][skill]blessed signet[/skill]

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Sshh, I'll let you in on a secret.

[skill]holy haste[/skill][skill]light of deliverance[/skill][skill]heal party[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]heal other[/skill][skill]healing touch[/skill][skill]infuse health[/skill][skill]resurrection chant[/skill]

OR [skill]dismiss condition[/skill][skill]cure hex[/skill]

Depending on where you are. 1. Running LoD + Holy Haste on a human monk is a terrible idea because you have to sacrifice all of your prot. No prot on a human monk is simply inexcusable.

2. Running LoD + Holy Haste on a hero monk isn't that bad of an idea, assuming you're the second monk and carry all of the essential prots (PS, SoA, and Aegis at the very least). Hero monks suck hard with prot anyway, so I see no problem dropping it from their bars.

3. If you're going to run LoD + Holy Haste on a monk hero, you should probably fix your LoD + Holy Haste build, because it's pretty bad.

Hero monk LoD + Holy Haste bar should look like this:
[skill]holy haste[/skill][skill]light of deliverance[/skill][skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill]Ethereal Light[/skill][skill]Signet of Rejuvenation[/skill][skill]Mend Condition[/skill][skill]Cure Hex[/skill][skill]resurrection chant[/skill]

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You can't see me

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Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grammar
1. Running LoD + Holy Haste on a human monk is a terrible idea because you have to sacrifice all of your prot. No prot on a human monk is simply inexcusable.

2. Running LoD + Holy Haste on a hero monk isn't that bad of an idea, assuming you're the second monk and carry all of the essential prots (PS, SoA, and Aegis at the very least). Hero monks suck hard with prot anyway, so I see no problem dropping it from their bars.

3. If you're going to run LoD + Holy Haste on a monk hero, you should probably fix your LoD + Holy Haste build, because it's pretty bad.

Hero monk LoD + Holy Haste bar should look like this:
[skill]holy haste[/skill][skill]light of deliverance[/skill][skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill]Ethereal Light[/skill][skill]Signet of Rejuvenation[/skill][skill]Mend Condition[/skill][skill]Cure Hex[/skill][skill]resurrection chant[/skill] Meh. The bar you posted below is usually what my hero monks run with it, except they use dismiss condition instead of mend.

Melody Cross

Melody Cross

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Alliance of Anguish [aOa]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Sshh, I'll let you in on a secret.

[skill]holy haste[/skill][skill]light of deliverance[/skill][skill]heal party[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]heal other[/skill][skill]healing touch[/skill][skill]infuse health[/skill][skill]resurrection chant[/skill]

OR [skill]dismiss condition[/skill][skill]cure hex[/skill]

Depending on where you are. I see your spam party heals and counter with "Save Yourselves!"+Spear of Fury.

TBH, party wide healing is not a bad concept. But party wide prot has a tendency to be far superior.

GGs

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Sshh, I'll let you in on a secret.

[skill]holy haste[/skill][skill]light of deliverance[/skill][skill]heal party[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]heal other[/skill][skill]healing touch[/skill][skill]infuse health[/skill][skill]resurrection chant[/skill]

OR [skill]dismiss condition[/skill][skill]cure hex[/skill]

Depending on where you are. Please keep secrets to yourself now. Thanks.