assassin hero

icedutah

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Any good builds for an assassin hero? I tried using a death blossom and Moebius build but Zenmai wasn't really using it very good. She was hardly using Moebius for some reason.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

What this dude says:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign in some other thread
I was messing around with builds for the weaker hero professions this last week trying to figure out what they could use effectively. Heroes are sufficiently bad at skill chaining that any common Assassin build you'd want to give her is going to fail miserably.

That said I've been pretty happy with this bar on my Zenmai, happy enough to want to run the character in certain zones:

Siphon Strength
Siphon Speed
Black Spider Strike
Black Lotus Strike
Death Blossom
Impale
Disrupting Dagger/Critical Eye
Resurrection Signet

13 Critical Strikes, 11 Dagger Mastery, 11 Deadly Arts

Unlike every other bar I've made the AI uses this particular character really well. It'll pick a target, put Siphon Strength on it, then is happy to use one of the Black skills on the hexed target. It isn't super fast with using the Death Blossom followup, but you're waiting on the recharges on your Black skills anyway so it isn't a big deal. Impale is used consistently after Death Blossom when it's recharged. It's not a fast combo like it would be on a player Assassin, but everything is used about as fast as it could be.

The Siphon Speed is basically just a backup hex when targets die quickly, and gets used for that purpose. It's also pretty good for Hard Mode mobs that like to run away. You can put any other hex in there though, or drop it entirely if you have a heavy hex build to take both Critical Eye and Disrupting Dagger. Heroes are good at Hexing stuff.

housecalls

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

I have run Zenmai as a Critical Barrage she does that well, sorry i dont have the build handy.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

black lotus is now a lead attack so i dont think heroes would use that build very well anymore.

critical barrage is really the only thing sin heroes can do by themselves.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
black lotus is now a lead attack so i dont think heroes would use that build very well anymore. I don't see why it wouldn't? One lead, one off-hand, one dual.

Drak Totenruf

Drak Totenruf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

after trying lots of dagger-based builds and watching skills used by enemies, i'm running my sin-heroes this way

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[card]Jagged Strike[/card] [card]Wild Strike[/card] [card]Death Blossom[/card] [card]Disrupting Stab[/card] [card]Flashing Blades[/card] [card]Plague Touch[/card] [card]Critical Eye[/card] [card]Resurrection Signet[/card]

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

[skill]Way of the Master[/skill][skill]Critical Eye[/skill][skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Dark Apostasy[/skill] or [skill]Ebon Dust Aura[/skill] or [skill]Way of the Assassin[/skill][skill]Critical Defenses[/skill][skill]Shield of Force[/skill]

Get It

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Me/A

OwJiktjLRBq/grFnVBuIqaIAAA

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

And this would be even better with full attributes
I'd use another preparation than rapid fire personnally.

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Get It
OwJiktjLRBq/grFnVBuIqaIAAA This is a good build for taking down caster bosses:

[card]Way Of The Assassin[/card][card]Critical Eye[/card]Way Of The Master[card]Disrupting Accuracy[/card][card]Keen Arrow[/card][card]Called Shot[/card]Sloth Hunter's Shot[card]Resurrection Signet[/card]

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

TW

W/

When I'm not in HM and I need single target damage (Hell's Precipice) I've been taking A/P Zenmai for spammable deep wound.
12+1+1 Critical Strikes
12 Spear Mastery

Vicious Attack
Spear of Lightning
Swift Spear
Way of the Master
Way of the Assassin
Critical Eye
Optional
Resurrection Signet

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

you should check out my post...it has a 'sin hero bar on there that I personally used when I beat Gate of Madness HM - so it is proven to be effective...its a very effective tank bar with massive damage deduction from set target foe! enjoy...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10219798

all hero bars are on there including the new 'sin bar I have recently been using for HM missions / vanquishes...just to prove that all professions are useful as heroes including the discriminated ones!

John Panda

John Panda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

in my house

The Arctic Maruarders [TAM]

A/

sin heros are badd.. unless you give them a simple build like barrage or some other gimmick.

heros fail at spamming Deathblossom with moebius which is the best combo in pve for a sin to possibly have.

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Panda
sin heros are bad explain please...

Mine seem to be able to tank shiro / lich on HM without a designated healer and not die...interesting that (Zenmai; so not with new GW:EN AI improvements that are on the new heroes)

Draikin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by payne
explain please...

Mine seem to be able to tank shiro / lich on HM without a designated healer and not die...
Give your hero a build with a L-O-D combo and you'll understand why they're bad. They'll often just sit there and auto-attack the enemy without using any attack skills.

Quote:
Originally Posted by payne
(Zenmai; so not with new GW:EN AI improvements that are on the new heroes) What makes you think that GW:EN heroes are different? They all have the same AI.

Adriaanz#Shiro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Guild Hall

Super Kaon Action Team [Ban]

R/E

@ AI discussion : I think he means that GW:EN had a big update concerning Hero AI.
@ Why sins aren't bad: I Agree with Payne and Ensign. The Siphon Strength build has proven to work pretty well. I even see some options for a solo build to farm melee bosses with it. Payne, I'm using your bar atm.

~Shiro

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Zenami is just a bad hero.
She can't function her role properly unless you put her in a gimmick build (critical barrage) or some form of build that you yourself would not normally use.
Anyways

I like to run

Locust Fury
Mark of Rodgort
Conjure Flame
Malicious Strike
Golden Phoenix Strike
Black Lotus Strike

Doesn't really matter what she does she can do something as long as she whacks.

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adriaanz#Shiro
@ AI discussion : I think he means that GW:EN had a big update concerning Hero AI.
@ Why sins aren't bad: I Agree with Payne and Ensign. The Siphon Strength build has proven to work pretty well. I even see some options for a solo build to farm melee bosses with it. Payne, I'm using your bar atm.

~Shiro would really be pleased if you could leave a post in my thread with your views on the bar...
BTW you can swap out the combo skills for wild blow and distracting blow (alternative if you are interested)

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

uh...my zenmai spam death blossom + moebius without problem.... i gave her these

[skill]resurrection signet[/skill][skill]sharpen daggers[/skill][skill]critical eye[/skill][skill]unsuspecting strike[/skill][skill]wild strike[/skill][skill]death blossom[/skill][skill]moebius strike[/skill][skill]critical strike[/skill]

tmr819

tmr819

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

Is there a good anti-caster/interrupt Assassin Hero build that someone can recommend?

I use Anton pretty effectively in EotN's dungeons for damage, but I'd like to make him more effective against the Elementalist and Mesmer bosses (like Ilsunder [sp.?] in Catacombs of Kathandrax).

I have been using [skill]Beguiling Haze[/skill] as his elite, but I'm open to suggestions. I don't think this elite working that well with the rest of his skill bar and, besides, it's a major energy suck as skills go.