Is Remains of Sahlahja broken or do I just have horrible luck?

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

I've played this mission 20 times since I started counting, have gotten a score between 40 and 100 every time, have killed at least 4 maddened spirits every time, and have only gotten an armor remnant out of it once. I don't understand what's going on here, but I just want my damn armor remnants so I can never get in a Junundu ever again.

Yes, I'm whining, but I'm also genuinely curious if anyone else is getting drops. There's no one in the outpost selling armor.

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

D/

I did the mission a lot when I was going for the Elona Mapping title... and I don't think I even got one armor remnant. Brb Gonna go post my own thread whining about it.

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

Err, I'm afraid you might have to kill more then just 4 maddened. I notice when I last longer i get more armors. A good tactic is to stick by a greater infestation when you think a spirit is gonna come. Once you see the spirit, you should have weakened it before hand and kill it. Toss a siege at the maddened spirit, throw a rock (wand or staff) and then hit skill #3, the bite. You can kill them using this and only take damage once at most if done correctly.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

When I was mapping the area, I left with 4-6 armors.

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

You have a higher chance of getting the armor remnants from the Lost Souls. Trying going for them.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

hrmz, must be my luck, i've been doing that forever and no armor!

eudas

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

it's just you.

i mapped this zone, played the game, and got 5 armor pieces over the course of, eh, 1-2 hrs.

now, from a game balance perspective, i would guess that they back-load it to prevent farming, such that if you stay alive longer and score higher, you have increasing chance to get ancient armors, but there's nothing documented about that. stay alive as long as you can, and kill as many maddened spirits as possible without dying. my last run i stayed alive to 117 pts, and got like 2-3 armors in 1 run.

follow the advice on the wiki article and you should be able to succeed quite nicely with an hour or so of play. but don't get all antsy about getting the armors -- play the game and enjoy it for what it is, and focus on scoring as high as you can, and the armors will come with time.

eudas

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by eudas
follow the advice on the wiki article and you should be able to succeed quite nicely with an hour or so of play. but don't get all antsy about getting the armors -- play the game and enjoy it for what it is, and focus on scoring as high as you can, and the armors will come with time.

eudas This is the fundamental problem, really. Junundu, for me, are about the least fun thing in the entire game. I suck with them horribly, for one thing, and they're always the same so there's nothing I can do to suck less. I've followed all the wiki advice but I've still only ever cracked 100 once. I fear that is required for the remnants, and is thus the source of the problem, but I really, really don't want to have to do that again. Ah well. I should quit bitching and go play.

Sorry for the QQ thread, folks. Move along, nothing to see here.

Edit: FYI, just went ahead and bought them. I'll have a lot more fun and a lot less frustration making back the money spent than I would continuing to bang my head against this particular wall.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
This is the fundamental problem, really. Junundu, for me, are about the least fun thing in the entire game. I suck with them horribly, for one thing, and they're always the same so there's nothing I can do to suck less. I've followed all the wiki advice but I've still only ever cracked 100 once. I fear that is required for the remnants, and is thus the source of the problem, but I really, really don't want to have to do that again. Ah well. I should quit bitching and go play.

Sorry for the QQ thread, folks. Move along, nothing to see here. Well they're not always exactly the same. They either have or don't have Seige.

So I suppose there's 2 types.

As for the mission. I don't find the armor drops there to be particularly rare...

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

You may simply have bad luck.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Heavy antifarm code has existed in this mission even back at NF release. The first couple of runs had a high chance of dropping 1 or more armors but if you continued playing and finished with similar scores the chances for getting even one armor were going near zero.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by xDusT II
You have a higher chance of getting the armor remnants from the Lost Souls. Trying going for them. AFAIK, Lost Souls don't drop armors anymore, and even if they did they're a pain in the ass to hunt down.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

I think Shadow nexus has even worse drop rates. Three to go...

As for the best way to kill the spirits: Have full adrenaline when it appears,kill greater infestation before spirit reaches you, smack it down with smash, get 500 health with bite and finish it of with strike. Repeat until there are two or three of them at the same time. No idea how anyone ever got 1000 points in this place.

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

Shadow Nexus drops are decent, until you get the last armor you need. Then it's about nonexistant. I got four armors in one run there last week. Haven't gotten another since.

A_Muppet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

That's the way the code works-they didn't want you farming and selling hero armour, so you should get about 3-4 drops (Enough for yourself) before the drop rate nose-dives for you.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Shadow Nexus is pretty easy too if you max out LB.

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

its pure luck really as seen above. i mapped it and played it a few times and not one remnant. Depends on how lucky you get just like most drops.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Shadow Nexus is pretty easy too if you max out LB. You don't even really need to max LB for that one, at least in NM. It's a fairly easy matter to get a score in the 150-range, which is all you seem to need to have a chance at an armor piece.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Scores are irrelevant to drops. It's based on killing a specific creature in the mission.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Scores are irrelevant to drops. It's based on killing a specific creature in the mission. All I know is I've never gotten an armor piece from Shadow Nexus without having cracked 100 and then killed a portal mage.

Seventh_Samurai

Seventh_Samurai

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
I've followed all the wiki advice but I've still only ever cracked 100 once.
Ohhh, glad someone else is having the same problem...
Quote: I fear that is required for the remnants Yepp, appears that way to to me too...
Quote:
Edit: FYI, just went ahead and bought them. I'll have a lot more fun and a lot less frustration making back the money spent than I would continuing to bang my head against this particular wall. I could not agree more. This challenge mission just sucks. Who wants to play a MMORPG...solo?! Kind of defeats the "MMO" purpose of it. The Sahlajahrajaharalhja (why does the name have to be so freaking hard to spell?) CM is about as innovative as online Tetris.

Cheers man, I grant you 5 internets for this thread.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Seventh Samurai is using Animate Thread Horror!

Scythe O F Glory

Scythe O F Glory

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

New Jersey

League of Elite [LoE]

D/

I got it my first try, i thin you just have bad luck.

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

Well i have gotten the top score twice without ever getting a single armor remnant. I think it was because prior I played it several times for armor pieces. But since then I have never gotten any. Scores were at 300 and 600 I think, when I didnt get an armor piece. Sometimes I think theres a set amount of armors your allowed to get

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Oh boy I hate this mission. I did it a lot for my mapping title and I swore never doing it again. When I want armor remnants, I'll just buy 'em. Will save me some frustration because I'm just horrible at it and I don't feel the need to improve at it either.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

this thread may have been necro'd but its still relevant .....been working on my titles and yep only seem to get the buggers on the first try even when I scored much higher on subsequent runs....guess I need to get some of my other characters over to this mission if I want to get all their heroes outfitted with new armor......(only doing m of whispers and tahlkora for that one but still have lots of characters ....)

Washi

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Well they're not always exactly the same. They either have or don't have Seige.

So I suppose there's 2 types. I know it's necroed but i loled irl at this one srsly

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

I just recently got my armor remnants.

100% random chance. Has nothing to do with your score at all.

I got a piece on first kill, I got a piece on a kill with 150ish points, and again on 30ish points.

All you need to do is kill a maddening spirit (Haven't gotten any from lost souls, but haven't tried really. I just camp near the greater and kill the maddening.)

As an aside. The mysterious armor ones are a pain. Been trying to get those ones and still need 2 more. Many kills and only got 3. Bad luck.

exploiter

exploiter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

ign Punk Isnt Dead

R/

mapping gave me 3 remnants in about 5 runs, approx 2 spirits killed each run

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

When mapping, I obtained a surplus of armor and relatively high score. (200+)

How many more do you need/want?

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I still have about 10 more characters that need them (its 22 left for me)...but I think I will do it the hard way.....never got one on the first try...usually need a score around 70 for me to get one....

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ancient Armor Remnants can only be obtained in the Remains of Sahlahja Challenge Mission. It does not drop, but instead appears in players' inventories at random as a reward after killing a Lost Soul or Maddened Spirit.

You will not receive Ancient Armor Remnants for every Lost Soul or Maddened Spirit you kill. They are randomly given to the player.

mllepandora

mllepandora

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

at my desk

The Lesser Horse Men

E/

I don't really mind the fact that A-net limits the amount of armor drops one receives per character, but I wish the "randomness" was improved a bit

I eventually got all of my pieces-- after much frustration on my part. (Esp. in the desolation)

As other posters mentioned, I got the first 4 pieces in the Shadow Nexus pretty quickly. Didn't get the last piece until about a month ago, when a guildie wanted to get his pieces. I switched characters after reaching the limit, and my rit was able to get at least one piece while we were there.

At least the EoTN hero armors (and perhaps, DoA) aren't based on such a mysterious drop code. (they are, of course, harder to obtain, as a result.)

Still getting all the armor styles for the heroes I have is a daunting process..

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Armor drops aren't limited, and the Ancient Armor Remnants don't drop from Lost Souls.

Seventh_Samurai

Seventh_Samurai

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Seventh Samurai is using Animate Thread Horror! Good thing my death magic is low, so it'll die again soon...

As far as being "completely random drops", I have to disagree...but, I won't be doing this mission any more, just going to buy the armors at this point.