Unlock PVE-only TITLES for other Characters

One of your characters went all the way for a certain PVE title in Eye of the North / Nightfall.

I'm referring to titles that are related with PVE-only skills, namely:

(Nightfall)
- Lightbringer
- Sunspear

(Eye of the North)
- Asura
- Deldrimor
- Ebon Vanguard
- Norn

But you have other characters and little to no desire to do all that grind ALL OVER AGAIN. What to do...?

Throughout your account, other characters that got to level 20 would be able to unlock one of these maxed titles that you achieved at least once. Similar to what happens when level 20 characters are able to go to Hard Mode and access the purchased Eotn, once unlocked for the first time.

The pre-requisites: your other characters would have to be level 20, step in Nightfall / Eotn (at least once) and spend skill points.

As for spending skill points, it could be something like this:

You go to the Titles panel and notice a "Locked titles" section.

For first time unlock: "The Gods require X skill points to unlock this title". Subsequent unlocks would require +X the amount of skill points from the previous unlock.

This way players could actually have fun using more than one character to go after one of those titles and knowing that their other characters would be able to unlock it, if the player chooses to do so.

Players would still need to do whatever quests necessary to acquire the skills related with that title.

What do you think?

absolutely signed ... also would give things, like Star consumeables, and general Skill Points more sense and usagge, also it would make more fun to play with more than 1 characters and would be not so extremely dumb time consuming, that you either first put the game into the cupboard, and start playing GW2, before all your characters have all titles, which you have archieve at least once with your main character ...


but in dont agrre with the way of Skill point stacking ...

Each title should just have a certain chosen sum of SP, they shoukld cost for activation ...

Survivor and LdoA should have then special high cost and can be activated, regardless of which of the 2 goals u've archieved

Also pvp titles hsould have extra high SP costs, and should be activateable, whenever the player is willing to pay the Sp cost for it...
buth these SP would be special conted...

SP would be divided by SP gained through playing pvE and SP gained through playing any pvp ....

this way, the activated for pve costs PvE-Sp and the activation for pvp titles iwll cost PvP-SP ...

Example:

My Main Character has made PvE title legendary guardian, legendary cartographer,all racial titles max , has maxed gladiator and is legendary survivor

now i change to charactre too, he has all those titles not ... but with payment of SP, you can unlock them ...

cause my main is LS ... i can unlock for character LS and LDoA...

LS would cost for example 250 PvE SP, while LDoA would cost 500
Hero R15 would for example cost 1000 PvP-SP

and so on ...


this way players eould receive a real long time motivation, that don#t frustrates, because there exist titles, that are forever unable to receive, because u either died once and don#t want to perma die for it, until u finally level to lvl 20 in a tutorial oO...

then the solution means simple, that you work for your titles, until you have enough special SP for it, to unlock it for your character ....

i go even so far to say, that titles should have SP costs for account wide unlock ....

[QUOTE=Amon Warrior]

But you have other characters and little to no desire to do all that grind ALL OVER AGAIN. What to do...?
[QUOTE]

u dont get it... not signed...

i mean u get KoaBD or LDoA on one guy....

u have it on ur pvp guys.. pve guys... lvl 1s... lvl 20s... its not fair imo

title are hard to get... thats why u have them to show off.. but get them once and u have it on EVERONE? NO WAY

/notsigned again

[QUOTE=greenreaper3][QUOTE=Amon Warrior]

But you have other characters and little to no desire to do all that grind ALL OVER AGAIN. What to do...?
You'd have to be lvl 20

Not KoaBD or LDoA, fool, it's the pve skill grind titles.

If you can get it on one character then why not get them on all.

/signed

Congrats on not reading the OP.
/signed
in b4 freeked.

/signed

I don't understand why all titles are not account based instead of lots of character based already.

There's a search function.

Way to make a new thread.

The Thread is called "Make All Grind-Based Titles Account Based"

Or some stupidity like that.

lern2serch.

and for the record, /notsigned. For reasons I explained in that thread.

Yay look at me, im level 4 with Legendary Survivor, Legendary Defender of Ascalon (even though im from cantha?), Slayer of All, Legendary Cartographer, Legendary Vanquisher, Legendary Guardian.

etc.

See my point?
/notsigned

like snow bunny so helpfully pointed out the idea has come up before.
main thread is this:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10197837

post your approach there please.

/unsigned

so many have said soemthign similar and i dont agree with it at all, some titles are accoutn wide some arent.

some maybe should be account wide that arent,

but no way shoudl you be able to purchase titles or unlock them just because you have it on one character already

i stand about getting drunk on one character for 10,000 minutes, and another one of my characters not having had a single drink decides he wants to be a drunkard so he goes to a title trainer and unlocks the drunkard title?

does that make any kind of sense?

Mymate went exploring round the world and has visited everywhere, I can't be bothered so i think I will go to a God and ask them to make it so everyone thinks i have went on those excursions. Hey maybe you should make it so Korimar does that one for you

/not signed
Hmm...Legendary Cartographer yet nothing is explored...makes since

Lil Ferk, the titles that I'm referring to are...

(Nightfall)
- Lightbringer
- Sunspear

(Eye of the North)
- Asura
- Deldrimor
- Ebon Vanguard
- Norn

And they wouldn't be automatically acquired; call it pre-requisites: other characters would have to be level 20, stepped in Nightfall / Eotn (at least once) and spend skill points... I'll add this to my initial post.

Thank you for the indication guys. The game mechanics that I'm suggesting would be different from what was suggested in that likewise interesting thread, not just a variation of it.

There's a common worry that the so called GRIND titles is a leap out of the initial philosophy from ArenaNet of skill over time. Whatever threads or posts may come, or if a moderator decides to close this thread (since it can be considered out of forum rules), I share the belief that there is a problem that needs fixing - whatever that solution may be...

/agree to all here except the bolded. MotN is to be earned and reflects a unique experience with each character, rather than repeated grind.

One little tweak to it, though: Must be rank 5 or higher to be able to do this - that way some of the title points are earned on each character; the ones that are not really grinded and accessible through playing the game once on each character.

Thank you for your hawkeyes arcanemacabre. I agree that Master of the North shouldn't be there as well.

That's an interesting idea that could work well with the Hero's Handbook and Master Dungeon Guide.

greenreaper3, XiaoTheBlade, william1975. Lil Ferk- you all fail at reading.
Back2schoolplx


As for the topic, /signed -,-

/not signed no

with my system with paying PvE/PvP-Sp for unlocking Titles, this won't happen, unless characters got the SP to pay for the unlock...meaning that the character must be at least level 20 ....

/signed, all in for less grind.

/signed

As I said in the other thread, its the player that is achieving these titles, its the player that should be rewarded. Grind is no different between different chars so its not as if its a different playstyle on different proffesions. (Unlike the titles that would remain char based)

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10197837

The OP says it's not....

except....

it is.

So

lern2serch

Actually, the OP edited and rewrote his entire first post to make it clearer what he meant (so those guys aren't idiots).

Still... /notsigned. Those PvE skills aren't required. And just playing GW:EN gets you the title with a level of effectiveness for anybody to use.

Maybe you should look at when I posted my comment, and when the OP edited their post. What was in the original post was nothing like what is in it now. Obviously you can't infer from the times that what I posted was relevent to the pre edited content.

being verbally abusive for people like you may be easy, but it is you that looks like a fool

So what are we supposed to do that isn't grinding? I mean, sure you can grind one character then play him until you feel like head butting your concrete wall until the foundation gives out is more fun, but what next?

You don't have a choice, really. Either you grind or you sit around for the duration that you're logged.

Or pvp, but this is a pve related post, so I'm not going to get into that.

From "READ FIRST - Suggestion Forum Guidelines (UPDATED 10/27/07): If your idea is a slight change of another suggestion that's already been suggested, don't post a new thread on it, post it in the existing thread and continue the discussion over the general idea."

Snow Bunny,

Is this suggestion a slight change from other ideas in other threads, or the only thing in common here is the subject and a shared desire for change?

The main idea in this thread is the inclusion of requirements for other characters to be able to unlock a title.

Pre-requisites (another way to call it) came to me as a way to minimize the grind necessary for all other characters that a player has or will create - and still expect the player to dedicate a reasonable amount of skill and time to do so.

Reasonable is what I don't think is happening right now, especially with titles that affect the performance of skills that can be quite useful.

Game designers can probably come up with better requirements than the ones I suggest. Maybe an inspired player could come up with a cool set of requirements. That would be great.

You stated "/not signed", so I guess you consider that all is well with the game in that regard. Yours is a respectable opinion, I thank you for your contribution.

But I wonder how can players such as yourself find so much available time and do the same same thing ALL OVER AGAIN for your other characters. Or do you just dedicate one or maybe two characters to play Eye of the North?

Unfortunately for me, I don't have that much time available. I really think it's a pain to do that darn grind ALL OVER AGAIN - I already work in real life, I expect entertainment in a game, not more work. Now why the heck did I bought Eye of North with its neat depending-on-a-title skills if, to acquire and optimize them, I'm only able to spend time and my limited patience for ONLY ONE OF MY CHARACTERS?!?!

Let's be creative here... Grind all the way you want, but please let there be alternatives for those who appreciate Arenanet's initial goal of skill over time...

wins the thread, have absolute the same opinion

There's no skill involved, however you slice it.

Have a piece of cake?

sounds like a good mechanism there Amon, it would "prove" that the player has dedicated a decent amount of time to that toon. Enough to warrant the unlocking of the skills imo.

moreover its a good way to spend those hundreds of skill points.

so yeah, i support this idea for what thats worth.

What grind is there in playing the game? You get to level 5 for all the GW:EN titles by just beating the game. Luxon/Kurzick titles are account wide already anyway (because you can use PvP characters to get it).

hmmm i was thinking about it and i might make a /sortakindasigned
what i was thinking was everything mentioned above you get the title, but have to work it to max to put it in HoM. IDK sorta thought about it.

Plz reply with a very hating voice if you disagree and a I love u if u agree then somewhere in the middle

I still have r2 vanguard.. <_<

Getting higher titles for grouping. You want to do ursanway with a pug? Better have r10 norn, and if in DoA, r8 lightbringer.

Some of us don't have time to get that on all of our favorite characters.

/signed i grind for hours on my first toon now i have to do it all over again i think the rep should be account based

I like to bake cakes too. I know where the ingredients are as well... Doesn't it already take skill and practice to make a cake just right for level 20, along with other cooking requirements?

What is nice about the restaurant that I'm in, is that I have all these other kitchens to make my cakes even more delicious. The more delicious they are, the better results I can get. I'm proud of each one of my cakes and couldn't go without making them more delicious.

Now, I'm working in a different kitchen with special ingredients. But this oven that I was given is so slow... It takes months on end to bake just one cake! I think it's fair the time that one cake takes to bake. But a Chef is a skilled connoisseur, not a robot. Am I expected to go through the exact same things to get these special ingredients, over and over again?!

Now, from Chef to Chef. Do you have a better suggestion for a better oven, that still relies on a Chef's skill, but more streamlined? Or are you satisfied with the oven you have?