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Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

11 Nov 2007 at 00:27 - 1

Ok, so after busting 75k on my Darkwing Defender, I'm in need of something to do (got bored with HM). I've taken an interest in capping all the elite skills for the skill hunter title, and need opinions on how to do it.

Should I go profession by profession?
Area by area?
Campaign by campaign?
In order of difficulty?
In order of usefulness (unlocking for heroes)?

Also, is it possible to have a checklist sort of thing so I can quickly check which elites I'm missing? Does something like this already exist? Have you found that this is a problem?

Thanks in advance, Marty

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

11 Nov 2007 at 00:34 - 2

i did it using wiki.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Skills_by_capture_location

and just went through the whole thing skill by skill (in order).

If your memory is not up to the task i suppose you could print it out and cross out the ones you have done.

took about 2 weeks(?) not long and was probably the most fun ive had in GW (new skill= new HH build) came up with some nice team builds (not the most effective sure... but funny)

its as expensive as hell so..having a budget is recomended imo.

GL!

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

11 Nov 2007 at 00:37 - 3

Mapping Out can help you there...

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

11 Nov 2007 at 00:37 - 4

Here's a link to just what you need:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10214199

I did mine profession by profession for Prophecies & factions. I did area by area in Nightfall.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

11 Nov 2007 at 01:20 - 5

Do it by profession first, then by area.

I.E.

"*/N" All Nec elites in prophecies, then in factions, then in nightfall. That way you also don't forget to make sure you have the right secondary profession.

This is the way I did it.

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

11 Nov 2007 at 04:21 - 6

Is being organised that difficult?

Just cap by whichever method works for you and stick to it.

That way you won't have to go looking through lists to find what you're missing.

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

N/

11 Nov 2007 at 04:28 - 7

If you haven't already capped all the elites for your primary profession, then you can often get multipe elites per trip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulkanyaz

Mapping Out can help you there...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...out-id2261.php

I found this very helpful for figuring out if there were multiple elites I could cap in the area I was going into. It was also good for keeping track of what I had capped and what I had left.

It does not (I think) cover GW:EN bosses though, which is a real shame.

I would cross check against wiki if it looks like a hard cap as there may be cap locations or tips not included in mapping out. Also, mapping out does not show the path to the boss like the original wiki boss maps do, so good idea to check there just for that.

kaheiyeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Reapers of Solace

Mo/A

11 Nov 2007 at 05:21 - 8

I used Mapping Out and did it in this order:

1) Find areas with most elites for your primary and also a secondary and cap those off first.
2) Cap the easier/closer elites. ie. A boss that spawns near a portal to a town.
3) Find any caps that can be done easier in GW:EN.
4) Cap the rest off.

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

11 Nov 2007 at 07:13 - 9

I did mine so far by campaign/profession. I did each in one full run.

That is, I looked at the wiki page for "Core:Warrior elites" and capped all of them in one go. Started at the top of the list and went down (well, sorta, if I happened to actually want an elite from one profession I went ahead and cleared all of that one too).

It's easy to remember where you are at. It may be somewhat more efficient to cap all of one professions elites in one area - but it is already put into a nice easy form to read and keep track of. Plus if you cap in HM you can still gain the respective faction points so no big deal if you have to kill the same enemies every once in a while.

It always seemed more work to keep up with the spreadsheets and stuff than what you saved by clearing out by area.

kaheiyeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Reapers of Solace

Mo/A

11 Nov 2007 at 07:23 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by strcpy

It always seemed more work to keep up with the spreadsheets and stuff than what you saved by clearing out by area.

Mapping Out tool makes it really easy. Cap a skill and just tick it off as captured!

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

11 Nov 2007 at 07:29 - 11

I actually did my capping runs by zone. I used mapping out to track what was where, and what I had left, but I just started in prophecies and capped all in one zone before moving onward.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

11 Nov 2007 at 08:59 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

Is being organised that difficult?

Just cap by whichever method works for you and stick to it.

That way you won't have to go looking through lists to find what you're missing.

QFT. You just need one method, but the one most efficient seems:
1) first by profession (since you will only have to change profession the minimum number of times);
2) then second by continent (minimum number of changes).

By the way, I discovered this week-end that you can buy dozens of signets of capture from Skill trainers, so that you don't have to come back there between two cappings

Happy capping!

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

11 Nov 2007 at 13:38 - 13

Another thing is to always find out just what bosses are on a map when you go looking for a skill, you might find 2-3 on the same map that can be capped at the same time.

eg, in nightfall - smoke trap, quicksand and magebane shot are all on the same map, 3 ranger elites in one run.

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

11 Nov 2007 at 13:56 - 14

Hi, i've just started skill hunter this weekend and decided to do Elona first.

What I did was first off all cap all core elites, then went through by proffesion, looking at the list on wiki and going down top to bottom of each profs skill list till i had them all. I'm up to assassin now just that, rit, para and derv left

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

11 Nov 2007 at 15:24 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Another thing is to always find out just what bosses are on a map when you go looking for a skill, you might find 2-3 on the same map that can be capped at the same time.

Totally true! It means bringing more cap sigs and planning all this (that's why double XP cap week-end are great

), so less skills, but it's ok with herohench.

Additionally, some bosses don't spawn sometimes (in Perdition Rocks, either Maxine Coldstone or Harn Coldstone, but not the two of them)

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

11 Nov 2007 at 16:25 - 16

I made a check list for all elites by profession. If you'd like it, pm me with your email and I'll send it to you. It's a word doc that you can print out and check off as you get them.

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

11 Nov 2007 at 22:27 - 17

I second Mapping Out, it helped me TONS. Also, look for multiple caps you can make in a single run- for example, on my necro I would look for maps that had both necro and another profession caps, then did both at the same time. Saved me perhaps an extra 50 runs.

lietzaum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

VILE

N/

12 Nov 2007 at 15:09 - 18

i have list from wiki and since i don't get on very often i have a word document and i cross of the ones i do
i capped skills by campain so i would have the title of (example skill hunter of tryia) and then i move to the next campain
but what i did when i started with is all of the core skills to help with all of the titles to see how many i had left and compared it with the word document

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

12 Nov 2007 at 15:30 - 19

I do it by proffesion and also by usefulness. I started by capping all warrior elites ( my chars a warrior ) then started on necro, working through them by picking ones I want to play about with on my heroes or on my char.

~A Leprechaun~

take_me

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

12 Nov 2007 at 15:34 - 20

My suggestion to you would be:
Go by profession from top to bottom in the list without skipping "difficult places/skills". This saves you some nerves towards the end.^^

Quote:

In order of difficulty?

That wouldn't be too bad either.... at leat in Prophecies. (Fire Islands, Mineral Springs first... then the easy rest^^)

Quote:

Also, is it possible to have a checklist sort of thing so I can quickly check which elites I'm missing? Does something like this already exist? Have you found that this is a problem?

Just download the website with all Elites from one campaign and edit it after aquiring some Elites.

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

12 Nov 2007 at 15:41 - 21

i used a print-out list that organized by profession, then zone/mission, starting with the easiest locations first. once nightfall was released, i ran out of skill points though lol. so make sure you have enough or will be able to get enough from the xp from capping. bring scrolls or get a few starso f transference on another character.

nebuchanezzar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

功夫之王

N/

12 Nov 2007 at 15:56 - 22

I had my elites months ago but the way I did it was to first just make a list of all the elites I did not have. Then I checked xennon elite(at that time, don't know if that site is even up anymore) for the locations of them all.
For actually capping I went zone by zone after deciding where to cap each one. Just check for multiple places to cap some skills and choose which is most convenient.
GL and HF
btw I took about 6 months off from GW having returned about a month ago and was pleasantly surprised to see that my Elites now compromised 4 titles maxed out. With Elite tomes also now you wont have to make the trek up to Dreadnaughts Drift for Maw the Mountain Heart and Feast of Corruption.

take_me

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

12 Nov 2007 at 16:02 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebuchanezzar

With Elite tomes also now you wont have to make the trek up to Dreadnaughts Drift for Maw the Mountain Heart and Feast of Corruption.

So true. Some Elites are just a pain to capture, so those Tomes can help a lot.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

12 Nov 2007 at 19:16 - 24

I'm erratic when I'm caping elites.

My Rit is going for the cap title, and now has 3 left in Tyria, but like 100 to go in Factions and 100 in Nightfall.

I went for the most caps in the area. Perdition Rock, 3 signets of capture and go hunting. Kill everything can cap 2 or 3 skills (if the 3 bosses spawn). 1 Trip, 2 or 3 elites capped. Easy.

I try to go for the random spawning bosses first, as if I'm lucky I will get the boss, otherwise, I'll eventually give up and go else where. That is where I'm at now... Abaddon's Mouth (Soul Leach, Restore Conditions are the 2 I'm missing and they are random bosses - spiders in the bonus area).

Going for the sure thing can be done later, as you know they will always be there, and you don't have to get board waiting for it to show.

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

13 Nov 2007 at 07:19 - 25

Ok, so last night was my first night capping, I decided to go by campaign, then by profession, then by attribute, then by alphabetical order. I managed to find a good use for those useless guides Anet put out for Prophecies and Factions - I can cap them in order.

I aimed to get 3 every night. I achieved 9. [skill=text]Aura of Faith[/skill], [skill=text]Spell Breaker[/skill], [skill=text]Peace and Harmony[/skill], [skill=text]Unyielding Aura[/skill], [skill=text]Shield of Regeneration[/skill], [skill=text]Mark of Protection[/skill], [skill=text]Life Barrier[/skill], [skill=text]Healing Hands[/skill], and [skill=text]Martyr[/skill].

I've now got my way of doing things, so I won't need any more opinions on the matter. Thank you for your time.

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

13 Nov 2007 at 07:29 - 26

I know you said you don't need any more help, but there's one last thing I didn't see mentioned in the other posts that I think can save you time. If you have Eye of the North, don't forget to check those bosses for skills. Sometimes skills that are hard to cap in their native campaign are a breeze in GWEN.

OccamsRazor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Inadequately Equiped (GeAr)

W/

13 Nov 2007 at 07:35 - 27

Although you have a way of capping elites, i have found that this site helps a lot with keeping track of which ones you have done:
http://gwtrack.roharsroughnecks.com/
Registration is simple and then you just make your characters and there's a little checklist of all elite skills. You can even break them down by campaign so it's easier if you want to finish one title before moving onto the next. Also, the skills link directly to wiki so you can find where the bosses are to cap them. You can also keep track of other titles, but I digress...

Sakura Az

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

The frozen north

Ambassadors Of Enlightenment [Sage]

A/

13 Nov 2007 at 09:25 - 28

i went zone by zone, worked out well for me. did tyria and elona so far, next as soon as i finish factions i'll head there and cap everything by zone again.

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

E/

13 Nov 2007 at 12:14 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebuchanezzar

With Elite tomes also now you wont have to make the trek up to Dreadnaughts Drift for Maw the Mountain Heart and Feast of Corruption.

Quote:

Originally Posted by take_me

So true. Some Elites are just a pain to capture, so those Tomes can help a lot.

Tomes only work if you have the skill unlocked already on your account, so unfortunately you might have to make the trek to pay Maw a visit. Alternatively, get some Balthazar faction and unlock it that way.

Zinger burger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

N/W

13 Nov 2007 at 16:57 - 30

I got the rest of the elites i needed for titles this weekend, wasnt cheap , but the way i did it i found to be fairly quick,,,

go profession by profession, do core caps first - they seem to be easiest of all to cap, usually an accessable boss over the 3 contenents. After that i then started in elona capping, always seemed so much faster capping in elona. Usually only 1 or maybe 2 if unlucky more akward ones. Then went on and did cantha. then prophecies.. I kept checking to see if cap was gonna be easier in GW:EN than cantha and especially prophecies.

150 or so elites capped inside a week ^^

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

13 Nov 2007 at 17:30 - 31

Did it one character each on two accounts. It was actually fun, and no grind at all. I just made a list of all the elites, broken down by profession and campaign, and capped by profession finishing one campaign before moving to next on. Some elites (most notably the 'core' elites) can be capped in more than one place. Pick which is easiest for you, Perdition Rock is a great place to cap multiple elites.

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

13 Nov 2007 at 17:55 - 32

I don't know if anyone psted this yet but using these two pages made my life so much easier:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...pture_location
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...ls_by_campaign

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

13 Nov 2007 at 20:31 - 33

I am doing it by campaign then by profession.
In truth, it really does not matter nor is it easer to do it any particular way.
It is much easer if you use a tool to track the various skills both capped and un-capped and checked them off as you cap them. Personally I use an excel spreadsheet, some people use mapping out, but what ever works for you and does not cause a performance issue with your computer is the best.
If you choose to do zone by zone be aware that the old anti-farming system is still in place. I know that ANet says it is not, but observation has proven to me time and time again that it is. You will want to do a quest or two while capping.

Fried Tech

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Yeti]

E/

13 Nov 2007 at 20:54 - 34

I did all the core skill first... capped them in factions
then i capped by class per game(all of proph, then factions, and so forth)

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

13 Nov 2007 at 21:38 - 35

This is by far the most "fun" title to max imo. I was very upset to find that GWEN didn't have any more for my main to go cap

But I guess it is best that way since we can no longer make enough plat to pay for the sigs anyway since loot scale has killed all hopes of making any money

Lil Ferk

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Texas

[GORD]

P/

13 Nov 2007 at 22:26 - 36

I'm going to get Everysingle skill except for
1 that way i can get Skill Hunter of Tryia,
Cantha, Elona, and Legendary at the same
time