well I'm looking for a warrior build with an cheap and effective self-heal and have so far concluded to these 3:
W/?: Tactics
Healing Signet, stances, etc.
W/As: Shadow Arts
Cheap heals like Death's Charge, Shadow Refuge, etc.
W/Mo: Healing
The wammo healing breeze or mending or stuff like that.
so any suggestions on which warrior self heal I should use? I don't have NF....
our self-heal...?
terminus123
Arkantos
Healing signet is all a warrior should ever need.
Exhonour
grr it annoys me when people say signet is all you need
go join AB and see how it works so effectively, its not even close to being all you need
-for example it gets interrupted, what do you depend on?
-healing sig has -40 armor, you need to use sumthing while using it to make up for it
-you got shit against you that disables signets
-you got shit against you that takes x3 longer to heal (rust)
-you get interrupt and its disabled for 20sec
i use shadow refuge, its quick recovery
for tactics
- healing signet + watch yourself/or def stance
for pve all you need is healing sig mostly cuz monks are there , but for pvp not only healing sig, you are suppose to be a warrior, not come in and die in a sec or run away
go join AB and see how it works so effectively, its not even close to being all you need
-for example it gets interrupted, what do you depend on?
-healing sig has -40 armor, you need to use sumthing while using it to make up for it
-you got shit against you that disables signets
-you got shit against you that takes x3 longer to heal (rust)
-you get interrupt and its disabled for 20sec
i use shadow refuge, its quick recovery
for tactics
- healing signet + watch yourself/or def stance
for pve all you need is healing sig mostly cuz monks are there , but for pvp not only healing sig, you are suppose to be a warrior, not come in and die in a sec or run away
Arkantos
In PvE if healing signet gets interupted/disabled fall back a bit and let your monk heal you. Tbh you don't even need a self heal in PvE as a warrior as long as you have somewhat good monks. In AB, theres not a great chance of running against rust or a signet diasbling skill. If you do run into these, you can easily fall back and heal when you're away from enemies. If you die, you'll get ressed, no biggie. Speccing into tactics is useful because you don't have to have a specfic second profession for a self heal, and you can use some useful skills like watch yourself and shields up. In TA/GvG/HA you will not need anything else, you have monks. In RA, even without monks, it's all you need.
As for shadow refuge..
You need to go /A for shadow refuge, which means you can't use mending touch, rending touch, shock and other utility skills.
You need to spec into shadow arts.
Can be removed.
You'll only be getting regen for the 6 second duration.
Once it ends, you have to be attacking to get the heal.
Same as healing signet, it can be interupted.
Go ahead and run shadow refuge along with healing signet, you're wasting attributes and a second profession. Healing signet is all you need.
As for shadow refuge..
You need to go /A for shadow refuge, which means you can't use mending touch, rending touch, shock and other utility skills.
You need to spec into shadow arts.
Can be removed.
You'll only be getting regen for the 6 second duration.
Once it ends, you have to be attacking to get the heal.
Same as healing signet, it can be interupted.
Go ahead and run shadow refuge along with healing signet, you're wasting attributes and a second profession. Healing signet is all you need.
DarkGanni
I never take self heal, always been fine....Have faith in the monks.
iridescentfyre
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Originally Posted by Exhonour
grr it annoys me when people say signet is all you need
go join AB and see how it works so effectively, its not even close to being all you need
-for example it gets interrupted, what do you depend on?
-healing sig has -40 armor, you need to use sumthing while using it to make up for it
-you got shit against you that disables signets
-you got shit against you that takes x3 longer to heal (rust)
-you get interrupt and its disabled for 20sec
i use shadow refuge, its quick recovery
for tactics
- healing signet + watch yourself/or def stance
for pve all you need is healing sig mostly cuz monks are there , but for pvp not only healing sig, you are suppose to be a warrior, not come in and die in a sec or run away Is it really better to devote half of your bar and attribute points to self-heals? Its okay to die in ABs. Its going to happen. Theres always going to be people who can counter a simple Warrior build, its how the game works. That doesn't mean you need to run a crappy bar
If it bothers you that much, try Lion's Comfort instead... its usually a smaller heal but it only takes one second to cast instead of two and is [potentially] more spammable since its an adrenal skill.
Running is not a bad thing. In an AB, if you're outnumbered badly and you need to run, you're an idiot not to. You may get called a noob for running, but only by retards. Trying to solo a mob is what real noobs do.
go join AB and see how it works so effectively, its not even close to being all you need
-for example it gets interrupted, what do you depend on?
-healing sig has -40 armor, you need to use sumthing while using it to make up for it
-you got shit against you that disables signets
-you got shit against you that takes x3 longer to heal (rust)
-you get interrupt and its disabled for 20sec
i use shadow refuge, its quick recovery
for tactics
- healing signet + watch yourself/or def stance
for pve all you need is healing sig mostly cuz monks are there , but for pvp not only healing sig, you are suppose to be a warrior, not come in and die in a sec or run away Is it really better to devote half of your bar and attribute points to self-heals? Its okay to die in ABs. Its going to happen. Theres always going to be people who can counter a simple Warrior build, its how the game works. That doesn't mean you need to run a crappy bar
If it bothers you that much, try Lion's Comfort instead... its usually a smaller heal but it only takes one second to cast instead of two and is [potentially] more spammable since its an adrenal skill.Running is not a bad thing. In an AB, if you're outnumbered badly and you need to run, you're an idiot not to. You may get called a noob for running, but only by retards. Trying to solo a mob is what real noobs do.
placebo overdose
dont use monk skills that is failure in a box
heal sig is fine if you dont take all that much damage unless you are stupid
heal sig @ 9 tacs heals for 107
in my builds i rarely use str so i max tacs @ 13 for a 137 heal that is fine unless you are in a bad situation to start with
heal sig is fine if you dont take all that much damage unless you are stupid
heal sig @ 9 tacs heals for 107
in my builds i rarely use str so i max tacs @ 13 for a 137 heal that is fine unless you are in a bad situation to start with
martialis
[skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill]
If you use this it means you're stupid, though, so just run away. Better bring sprint.
If you use this it means you're stupid, though, so just run away. Better bring sprint.
Exhonour
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
In PvE if healing signet gets interupted/disabled fall back a bit and let your monk heal you. Tbh you don't even need a self heal in PvE as a warrior as long as you have somewhat good monks. In AB, theres not a great chance of running against rust or a signet diasbling skill. If you do run into these, you can easily fall back and heal when you're away from enemies. If you die, you'll get ressed, no biggie. Speccing into tactics is useful because you don't have to have a specfic second profession for a self heal, and you can use some useful skills like watch yourself and shields up. In TA/GvG/HA you will not need anything else, you have monks. In RA, even without monks, it's all you need.
As for shadow refuge..
You need to go /A for shadow refuge, which means you can't use mending touch, rending touch, shock and other utility skills.
You need to spec into shadow arts.
Can be removed.
You'll only be getting regen for the 6 second duration.
Once it ends, you have to be attacking to get the heal.
Same as healing signet, it can be interupted.
Go ahead and run shadow refuge along with healing signet, you're wasting attributes and a second profession. Healing signet is all you need. i dont need ur scientific calculations, i use refuge and it saves me tons of times, never got it interrupted and it is quick recovery and i dotn care about attributes, i dont want str anyways
As for shadow refuge..
You need to go /A for shadow refuge, which means you can't use mending touch, rending touch, shock and other utility skills.
You need to spec into shadow arts.
Can be removed.
You'll only be getting regen for the 6 second duration.
Once it ends, you have to be attacking to get the heal.
Same as healing signet, it can be interupted.
Go ahead and run shadow refuge along with healing signet, you're wasting attributes and a second profession. Healing signet is all you need. i dont need ur scientific calculations, i use refuge and it saves me tons of times, never got it interrupted and it is quick recovery and i dotn care about attributes, i dont want str anyways
Tab
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Originally Posted by Exhonour
i dont need ur scientific calculations, i use refuge and it saves me tons of times, never got it interrupted and it is quick recovery and i dotn care about attributes, i dont want str anyways
This was one of the better posts I've seen recently.
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by Exhonour
i dont need ur scientific calculations, i use refuge and it saves me tons of times, never got it interrupted and it is quick recovery and i dotn care about attributes, i dont want str anyways
Epic.
Post of the year.
Post of the year.
Squishy ftw
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Originally Posted by Exhonour
i dont need ur scientific calculations, i use refuge and it saves me tons of times, never got it interrupted and it is quick recovery and i dotn care about attributes, i dont want str anyways
I just couldn't resist
BTW, on topic: IF I bring a heal, it's heal sig. But normally I dont bother bringing one as I find myself never using it anyways. The monks will have to look after my health, I'll be too busy smashing face
I just couldn't resist
BTW, on topic: IF I bring a heal, it's heal sig. But normally I dont bother bringing one as I find myself never using it anyways. The monks will have to look after my health, I'll be too busy smashing face
Isileth
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Originally Posted by Exhonour
i dont need ur scientific calculations, i use refuge and it saves me tons of times, never got it interrupted and it is quick recovery and i dotn care about attributes, i dont want str anyways
You know you just said something either very clever or very stupid when you get quoted this many times in such a short space of time.
deluxe
[skill]Natural healing[/skill][skill]Harrier's haste[/skill]
This is something nice to consider. At 10 wind prayers you gain 113 health and hh lasts for 12 sec.
For just a healsig I usually spec 10+1 into tactics anyway.
This is something nice to consider. At 10 wind prayers you gain 113 health and hh lasts for 12 sec.
For just a healsig I usually spec 10+1 into tactics anyway.
Stormlord Alex
And Stormlord is here to save the day.
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Originally Posted by Exhonour
Quote:
i dont need ur scientific calculations, i use refuge and it saves me tons of times, never got it interrupted and it is quick recovery and i dotn care about attributes, i dont want str anyways
Healsig is all you need.
And I rarely take Healsig, tbh.
Healsig is all you need.
And I rarely take Healsig, tbh.
Isileth
haha fantastic, I was sitting there wondering why there wasnt a pic from you Alex. Sometimes having a slow connection can be an advantage
But yeah healsig if anything really.
But yeah healsig if anything really.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Isileth
haha fantastic, I was sitting there wondering why there wasnt a pic from you Alex. Sometimes having a slow connection can be an advantage
Oh, not me connection... Party, more like...
.... one too many of the, uuhh... strawberry cream things with, like, the alcohol Not good
Oh, not me connection... Party, more like....... one too many of the, uuhh... strawberry cream things with, like, the alcohol
Not good
Isileth
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Oh, not me connection... Party, more like...
.... one too many of the, uuhh... strawberry cream things with, like, the alcohol Not good
Well when that strawberry leaves your system and you can think clearly perhaps you will read my post again
.... one too many of the, uuhh... strawberry cream things with, like, the alcohol
Not good
Well when that strawberry leaves your system and you can think clearly perhaps you will read my post again
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Isileth
Well when that strawberry leaves your system and you can think clearly perhaps you will read my post again
Hahahaha...
... I'll be back in a few days then
Hahahaha...... I'll be back in a few days then
Squishy ftw
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Oh, not me connection... Party, more like...
.... one too many of the, uuhh... strawberry cream things with, like, the alcohol Not good
care to share some of the good stuff ?
.... one too many of the, uuhh... strawberry cream things with, like, the alcohol
Not good
care to share some of the good stuff ?
Div
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Originally Posted by Exhonour
Edit: Looks like I missed this epic post
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Originally Posted by Exhonour
i dont need ur scientific calculations, i use refuge and it saves me tons of times, never got it interrupted and it is quick recovery and i dotn care about attributes, i dont want str anyways
No comment.
terminus123
alright this is how I see it, at least take 1 self-heal is always safe, so...
W/? or W/A? ..I don't have Dervish, no NF
Stormlord Alex
You can go W/A if you want.
Just don't touch Shadow Arts. Signet of Malice is passable, and shadowsteps can be fun.
Shadowfox1125
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Originally Posted by Exhonour
i dont need ur scientific calculations, i use refuge and it saves me tons of times, never got it interrupted and it is quick recovery and i dotn care about attributes, i dont want str anyways
Wow, you win.
Don't bother to start another thread in the future if you're going to act this way.
Draginvry
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
It annoys me to see retarded warriors who take 4 self defense/heal skills.
Just take Dolyak Signet and Mending. It's better than Shadow Refuge.
Arkantos
Looks like an epic post completely derailed a valid thread.
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