Sword Or Axe...?

Pure Trex

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I currently only have prophecies but will be gettin the others eventually and i was just wandering (cant decide) which of the sword or axe will i benefit most from in overall gameplay, PVP, PVE etc...

Which one has the better skills overall in all of the expansions and why.

Thanks.

Savio

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Better skills overall? Neither. [wiki]Dragon Slash[/wiki] is pretty staple for PvE though.

Exhonour

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i go with sword, i dunno lol ur choice

i like sum of the sword skills more

if u got factions go with sword, if u got proph only then go with axes

iridescentfyre

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If you had more than Prophecies, the straight answer would be Sword. A Dragon Slash build just pwns too much to bother with anything else. However Sword skills are pretty bad in Prophecies, I would recommend Axe for PvE, and either Axe or Hammer for PvP.

Even those of us who have all campaigns still use Axe in PvP, Eviscerate-based spike builds are a staple.

The advantage of an Axe in PvP is a fast spike of damage that includes a deep wound at the very beginning of the spike, and unlike [skill=text]Final Thrust[/skill], can happen before an enemy Monk turns their attention to your target. Swords are okay for pressure in PvP if you have access to the proper skills.

Pure Trex

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But surely with the likes of hundred blades and sun and moon slash, these are extremely good skills for killing enemys fast.

iridescentfyre

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Hundred Blades is a horrible elite and if anything, the reason not to use a Sword in Prophecies.

Sun & Moon Slash is from Factions. If you have Factions run Dragon Slash, there's nothing else even remotely comparable for "killing enemies fast."

Crimson Flame

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Agreed. Dragon Slash+FGJ+Enduring Harmony=win. Typical melee counters apply, but for the most part, you'll roll. I like a Furious sword for this - in fact, I'm running the build on my Warrior.

I tried Hundred Blades+Splinter Weapon, and it's not bad, but it's barely useful in 95% of PvE.

Stormlord Alex

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Short answer...
Sword for PvE - Dragon Slash + Save Yourselves! >>>>> PvE

Axe for PvP - Eviscerate + Executioner's strike >>>>> People's faces

Pure Trex

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Ok but what bout for overall PVP and PVE, Cuz i dont have the patience to swap for each time i wanna do either of the two lol in your opinions which would you go for....

Shadowfox1125

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Overall, for PvP, Axe is king. [card]Eviscerate[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card]
For PvE, Sword is king. [card]Dragon Slash[/card]
Make your choice. Or do both. That's what I do.

If you only have Prophecies so far, go Axe. Dslash is a Factions skill.

isamu kurosawa

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Originally Posted by Pure Trex
Ok but what bout for overall PVP and PVE, Cuz i dont have the patience to swap for each time i wanna do either of the two lol in your opinions which would you go for....
Once you have your headpiece and a weapon of each type its not hard to switch, just save your axe and sword builds as templates.

Also hammer is still useful.

Pure Trex

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Quote:
Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
Once you have your headpiece and a weapon of each type its not hard to switch, just save your axe and sword builds as templates.

Also hammer is still useful.
How do we save as templates?

The Bard

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pure Trex
How do we save as templates?
press 'K' to open the skill/attribute window, up to the left you should see a little blue button which looks kind of like a floppy disk, push it and a menu will drop down with alternatives to save or load templates ^^ more info here http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Template

as for your choice between axe or sword it really doesn't matter that much, choose whatever you think looks best/suits your play style/character ^^ they both have their pro's con's

Pure Trex

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bard
press 'K' to open the skill/attribute window, up to the left you should see a little blue button which looks kind of like a floppy disk, push it and a menu will drop down with alternatives to save or load templates ^^ more info here http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Template

as for your choice between axe or sword it really doesn't matter that much, choose whatever you think looks best/suits your play style/character ^^ they both have their pro's con's
Prob the most useful answer to me all day :P

Dante the Warlord

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I feel axes would be great for overall play, since you can solo using one, so you can solo. On the plus side they are cheap and really great to use. But on the bad side, most of them look cruddy, except maybe the choas axe.

Swords are EXTREMELY expensive, but get the best skins and most updated skins. Although i have used one for a while, i wished someone told me how much cheaper axes were two years back. But the skills are fun to use in PvE and PvP. Crippling slash is fun to use in PvP since those guys can't escape after you get them low enough in HP. Dragon Slash is awesome in PvE when you can pwn enemies.

sky99

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord
I feel axes would be great for overall play, since you can solo using one, so you can solo. On the plus side they are cheap and really great to use. But on the bad side, most of them look cruddy, except maybe the choas axe.

Swords are EXTREMELY expensive, but get the best skins and most updated skins. Although i have used one for a while, i wished someone told me how much cheaper axes were two years back. But the skills are fun to use in PvE and PvP. Crippling slash is fun to use in PvP since those guys can't escape after you get them low enough in HP. Dragon Slash is awesome in PvE when you can pwn enemies.
QFT, I prefer swords.But they are extremly expensive. Prepare to dish out 70k for a sword while you pay 2k for a hammer with the same stats. It's all about the skin

Syrinx_dm

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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
Hundred Blades is a horrible elite and if anything, the reason not to use a Sword in Prophecies.

Sun & Moon Slash is from Factions. If you have Factions run Dragon Slash, there's nothing else even remotely comparable for "killing enemies fast."
NOOB question - Why is Hundred Blades considered to be a weak elite? It would seem to me to be a great way to gain adrenaline.

silv3rr

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Originally Posted by sky99
QFT, I prefer swords.But they are extremly expensive. Prepare to dish out 70k for a sword while you pay 2k for a hammer with the same stats. It's all about the skin
Any weapon is only expensive if you're going for the unecessarily "rare" skins. Any weapon you can get at a collectors/weaponsmith is good enough.

HawkofStorms

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Yeah, don't buy this "expensive" crud. You can use clean weapons with no mods in PvE that will cost you ~150 gold.

Hundred Blades is weak because it provides no bonus damage, only works when enemies are bundled up, and is generally outclassed by other elites like Dragon Slash (which builds adrenaline up AND has +damage).

Anyway, there is no "best." People saying Axe is better for PvP, etc are all expressing personal opinions. There is no "best." I prefer axe in both PvP and PvE (like the DPS, and I think bleeding is a weak condition). Some people prefer swords. Its all preference. My suggestion is to try both.

Saphrium

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Syrinx_dm
NOOB question - Why is Hundred Blades considered to be a weak elite? It would seem to me to be a great way to gain adrenaline.
It is only comparably weak to even many normal attack skills.

1. It does not do +damage, unlike [skill]Cyclone Axe[/skill] or [skill]triple chop[/skill].
2. It does not bypass block, unlike [skill]sun and moon slash[/skill].
3. It has hell of a recharge time for a melee elite skill.
4. It takes up an elite slot.
5. The only use you can see is probably fast activation(5e, you can use it right away without adrenaline), but then again, [skill]enraging charge[/skill] does it better.

Crom The Pale

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Hundred Blades deffinatly needs a buff to be worth using.

I did run it with splinter up untill I got the pve Whirlwind Attack.

iridescentfyre

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Syrinx_dm
NOOB question - Why is Hundred Blades considered to be a weak elite? It would seem to me to be a great way to gain adrenaline.
Its a great way to gain adrenaline if your criteria of "great" is "more than an auto-attack." Hundred Blades does barely more than [skill=text]Sun And Moon Slash[/skill], an unblockable non-elite.


[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill] <-- Ultimately, this is why Hundred Blades sucks.

arsie

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The change to Conjure X removed the fun out of the screen to screen numbers of 100 blades.

Haha.

Hit and Run

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axe will give more damage, will attack slower thoe, sword attacks faster, and has a close damage range.

Medic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hit and Run
axe will give more damage, will attack slower thoe, sword attacks faster, and has a close damage range.
Swords and axes both have a 1.33 second attack rate.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Sword

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Axe

Onarik Amrak

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hit and Run
axe will give more damage, will attack slower thoe, sword attacks faster, and has a close damage range.
You don't know what you're talking about.

Longasc

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Since "For Great Justice" got buffed so that Dragon Slash now recharges itself, I would go with Swords. Also offers Riposte + Deadly Riposte. Whirlwind attack gives Swords the missed AoE attack that does not eat the elite slot.

Axes still have Dismember for an easy to apply Deep Wound, Triple Chop and Cyclone Axe are pretty good, too.

I preferred Axe for a long time, but see above, nowadays it is swords.

Pyro maniac

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PvE = swords
PvP = axes

of course, triple chop is a good axe PvE skill. They're also more capable of casuing deep wound, since some creatures in PvE dont bleed, so Sever + Gash doesnt work. However some PvE skills can be used as well for a DW.
In PvP the only usuable sword skill would be cripslash

Hyper Cutter

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Axe is better in PVE because there are too damn many nonfleshy creatures there for swords to be useful (especially in Prophecies)...

Dante the Warlord

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Both can be used for PvP and PvE, and they all provide about the same damage, its just how you get that damage that matters. Although i think a lot of people are more prepared for swords. Axes aren't as much used as swords and hammers are the least used war weapon, but its a real surprise to a lot of players when you do play with it.

Overall my personal experience axes are great for new players since they are cheap and can be used to farm for money and greens. When you get enough, get a nice skinned sword.

The Real Roy Keane

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This thread is full of horrible misinformation, please make it stop.

Stormlord Alex

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane
This thread is full of horrible misinformation, please make it stop.
Agreed.
Now, I'm gonna quote myself for emphasis.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Me
Short answer...
Sword for PvE - Dragon Slash + Save Yourselves! >>>>> PvE

Axe for PvP - Eviscerate + Executioner's strike >>>>> People's faces

Earth

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I agree with both of them above me. Look at Alex his post for just about the simplest and best answer. Closed.