Help my Dervish PvP build please!

Red_Dragon56

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

N/D

12 Nov 2007 at 18:51 - 1

Dervish/Necromancer

[skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Crippling Sweep[/skill][skill]Wearying Strike[/skill][skill]Plague Touch[/skill][skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill]

I don't have my game with me right now, I believe this is correct (you can guess the attributes most likely by looking at the skills).

Basically it has plenty of self sustaining power and regular power. Usually I use a Vamp Scythe or somthing to that effect.
If the need for Res I would replace Signet.

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

12 Nov 2007 at 19:13 - 2

First of all, I'd go with Wounding Strike - it'd allow me to choose 3 other attack skills (swap RS, Wearying and Plague).

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

12 Nov 2007 at 20:27 - 3

Don't use sig of pious + vital boon combo.

As it's a PvP build you need res.

As Bassu, wounding would be better. My preference would be [skill]Wounding Strike[/skill][skill]Crippling Sweep[/skill][skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill]

Other than that it's fine

Red_Dragon56

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

N/D

12 Nov 2007 at 22:58 - 4

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

13 Nov 2007 at 07:40 - 5

Needs moar [skill]Chilling Victory[/skill] for AB

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

13 Nov 2007 at 09:06 - 6

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Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56

[skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Irresistible Sweep[/skill][skill]Wearying Strike[/skill][skill]Plague Touch[/skill][skill]Watchful Intervention[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill]OR rez ???

You just posted almost the exact same build without taking any of our advice in.

Take wounding strike, it gives you the DW with no drawbacks, meaning you can get rid of wearying, reapers and plague touch. You seem to throw irre sweep in there for the sake of it.. i can't think of a worse scythe attack (umm maybe aura slicer).

What PvP did you design this for? If arenas, make sure you pre-cast watchful on all your teamates before the game.

Red_Dragon56

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

N/D

13 Nov 2007 at 17:08 - 7

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

???

You just posted almost the exact same build without taking any of our advice in.

I said in my first post that the build wasn't the exact build. So I finally got onto a computer with Guild Wars and checked it out then posted the exact build. For whatever reason my Edit didn't go through saying that was what it was. GWG loads so slowly that I didn't bother to check.
Quote: Take wounding strike, it gives you the DW with no drawbacks, meaning you can get rid of wearying, reapers and plague touch. You seem to throw irre sweep in there for the sake of it.. i can't think of a worse scythe attack (umm maybe aura slicer). The three skills are ment for damage. Plague Touch is so I can his with Wearying without worry (it has a great amount of damage and the combo does Weakness+Impressive damage). Vital Boon+Irresistable Sweep I thought was a good combo because it can't be blocked when I lose VB I get healed. I personally don't like Wounding Strike as it does no added damage and I rarely am without an enchantment on me (which makes the Bleeding part kinda usless). True it does DW without conditions, however

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What PvP did you design this for? If arenas, make sure you pre-cast watchful on all your teamates before the game. Just general PvP. AB, RA, etc. Maybe I should replace it with Faithful so that I don't have to worry about the timer running out.

So taking your advice into account somthing like this? (I like Lyssa's Assault

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

13 Nov 2007 at 17:21 - 8

With dervishes' amazing 3/4s, Mystic/Eremite's/both is almost a MUST for any damage dealing build for nice, emm, let's call it spike-like-thing. Even though you're under IAS, this 3/4 attack just kicks butt.
With WS and VB as one of my enchantments I use
[skill]Wounding Strike[/skill][skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Victorious Sweep[/skill] / [skill]Crippling Sweep[/skill]
This is a very nice dmg combo imo. Beginning with WS, nice quick spikey hit from Mystic (+30), followed by Victorious and then again with Mystic.
With VB up, you'll almost always get the health bonus from Victorious, which beside that is a nice 4s scythe attack. If you go for AB, drop Res Signet for something like Wild Blow/condition removal/Snare.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

13 Nov 2007 at 22:10 - 9

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Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56

So taking your advice into account somthing like this? (I like Lyssa's Assault

I need some more damage in this build anyhow)
[skill]Wounding Strike[/skill][skill]Crippling Sweep[/skill][skill]Lyssa's Assault[/skill][skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] Zealous Sweep > Lyssa's assault but i guess you wana keep it. You could probably lose faithful or vital boon and go /Mo; /A; /P for a condition removal.

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

14 Nov 2007 at 22:22 - 10

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Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56

[skill]Reaper's Sweep[/skill][skill]Irresistible Sweep[/skill][skill]Wearying Strike[/skill][skill]Plague Touch[/skill][skill]Watchful Intervention[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill]OR rez alright, this is one of the worst builds ive ever seen. sorry.

first epic fail: wearying strike without melandru(weakness = badd)

second: trying to fix that with plauge touch(to much time, target will be healed before you can spike them down)

third: Irresistible sweep(this is just a terrible skill)

fourth: no mystic/eremite's(fast attacks are ftw)

fifth: watchful intervention(another terrible skill)

sixth: vital boon(how is that helping you?)

fixable, and at least you brought an IAS

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

14 Nov 2007 at 22:43 - 11

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

fifth: watchful intervention(another terrible skill) Watchful is a good skill, cheers.

Red_Dragon56

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

N/D

15 Nov 2007 at 02:22 - 12

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

first epic fail: wearying strike without melandru(weakness = badd)

It's not a spike so it giving the enemy weakness works fine.
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second: trying to fix that with plauge touch(to much time, target will be healed before you can spike them down) It's not ment to be a spike. Thought that was obvious. Ment to be more of a tank/damage dealer support maybe it doesn't work in GvG (everybody spikes ugh). I wouldn't have PT or WS if I wanted a spike.
Quote: third: Irresistible sweep(this is just a terrible skill) Unblockable damage plus if I remove VB I get healed and energy for any other enchant. Not only that but added damage. Not really a horrible skill.
Quote: fourth: no mystic/eremite's(fast attacks are ftw) Eh. I'll trust you on that.

Quote: [skill]Wild Blow[/skill] then enchantment removal is a downside.

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fifth: watchful intervention(another terrible skill) WAH?!

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sixth: vital boon(how is that helping you?) Irresistable+VB Unblockable damage and Healing. I could lose it though.

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Zealous Sweep > Lyssa's assault but i guess you wana keep it. You could probably lose faithful or vital boon and go /Mo; /A; /P for a condition removal. Ya in that particular build VB is kinda useless.

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

15 Nov 2007 at 03:58 - 13

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Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56

It's not a spike so it giving the enemy weakness works fine.

deep wound is a spike. if you give something deep wound you should be following it with some quick damage to kill off a target. if you dont your wasting the DW and it will probably be removed.

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Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56 It's not ment to be a spike. Thought that was obvious. Ment to be more of a tank/damage dealer support maybe it doesn't work in GvG (everybody spikes ugh). I wouldn't have PT or WS if I wanted a spike.

same thing, you need to spike. every build spikes. things dont die without spikes.

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Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56 Unblockable damage plus if I remove VB I get healed and energy for any other enchant. Not only that but added damage. Not really a horrible skill.

Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56

WAH?! alright, fine. "terrible skill" is an exaggeration "not worth a skill slot" is a better description. there are better things out there.

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Originally Posted by Red_Dragon56

Irresistable+VB Unblockable damage and Healing. I could lose it though. please do, your monks can handle the big heals, just keep up your mystic regen.

Red_Dragon56

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

N/D

16 Nov 2007 at 00:19 - 14

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same thing, you need to spike. every build spikes. things dont die without spikes.

Not ment to kill though with other team members it can play as a melee support.
But I understand what you are getting at though... Hmm...
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WILD BLOW then enchantment removal is a downside. No extra damage (unless you count crit damage) 2x the recharge, no enchant removal. Not too Derv friendly if you have enchants you want gone. Although not a bad skill either, just saying.

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please do, your monks can handle the big heals, just keep up your mystic regen. Ya, I agree with you here unless I am playing RA or AB. But that doesn't really count anyhow.