would utilizing these two skills:
[skill]prepared shot[/skill][skill]concussion shot[/skill]
produce any spectacular effect?
my attempt here looks relatively promising.
any ideas/opinions/testers?(cant get on gw for a while, a field test from someone would own)
been mulling over this idea(pvp)
jaeharys targaryen
Jaws Of Doom
Idea: Try Rapid Fire instead of Read The Wind. Once your target is dazed, Rapid Fire will let you hit more times giving you a better chance of interupting with the daze.
Stormlord Alex
You can drop a point from WS and add it to Prot, for what it's worth... 
54 Heal from MTouch ftw
54 Heal from MTouch ftw
Tab
QQ builds r gud.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by Jaws Of Doom
Idea: Try Rapid Fire instead of Read The Wind. Once your target is dazed, Rapid Fire will let you hit more times giving you a better chance of interupting with the daze.
i dotn see why not.
but, 33 ias by itself is imo worse than comparable +damage and 2x move speed
but, 33 ias by itself is imo worse than comparable +damage and 2x move speed
Tab
Or you could not run bad skills and take Apply.
[skill]prepared shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]concussion shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
[skill]prepared shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]concussion shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Jaws Of Doom
Well, if you want to focus on shutting someone down with the daze, I would go for Rapid Fire over Read the Wind. While you will probably lose a little bit of damage, more arrows gives more chances for interupts off the daze.
If you're going for damage, then go for Apply Poison as the degen will definitely be better than the little bit of extra damage from Read the Wind.
If you're going for damage, then go for Apply Poison as the degen will definitely be better than the little bit of extra damage from Read the Wind.
lennymon
Jaws is right, the point of the short bow isnt short arc or low flight time, it's the fact that when you are running a daze or incenidary build you want as many interrupts as you can get in a short period of time. The 2 second refire rate isn't fast enough in and of itsef to guarantee a lockdown especially on a monk. Use rapid fire for the best bang/buck ias.
When you are running an interrupt centered build often damage is almost completely immaterial. It's about making your teamates take less heat or give them the opportunity to spike out a critical opponent. Think of yourself as fulfilling both prot and lockdown.
When you are running an interrupt centered build often damage is almost completely immaterial. It's about making your teamates take less heat or give them the opportunity to spike out a critical opponent. Think of yourself as fulfilling both prot and lockdown.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
Or you could not run bad skills and take Apply.
[skill]prepared shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]concussion shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill] or you could have energy. applys e cost is going to add up bad, in my opinion.
and i like how you said bad skills and you changed out one skill from mine.
[skill]prepared shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]concussion shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill] or you could have energy. applys e cost is going to add up bad, in my opinion.
and i like how you said bad skills and you changed out one skill from mine.
Floski
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Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen
or you could have energy. applys e cost is going to add up bad, in my opinion.
and i like how you said bad skills and you changed out one skill from mine. Yeah, what the hell is expertise, and why do 99% of rangers in GvG have apply and have 0 energy problems.
and i like how you said bad skills and you changed out one skill from mine. Yeah, what the hell is expertise, and why do 99% of rangers in GvG have apply and have 0 energy problems.
Tab
You have Expertise and Prepshot. If you can't handle 15e(~7e) every 24 seconds with that, you fail.
And I like how you use commas in the wrong places.
As a side note, if you want an interrupt bitch then Magebane is better now.
And I like how you use commas in the wrong places.
As a side note, if you want an interrupt bitch then Magebane is better now.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by Floski
Yeah, what the hell is expertise, and why do 99% of rangers in GvG have apply and have 0 energy problems.
and why do they run one of 2 10e attacks, when i'm runnign a 25e one. i severely doubt you looked at the build.
commas separate out a clause, by the way.
commas separate out a clause, by the way.
jaeharys targaryen
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
You have Expertise and Prepshot. If you can't handle 15e(~7e) every 24 seconds with that, you fail.
And I like how you use commas in the wrong places.
As a side note, if you want an interrupt bitch then Magebane is better now. i'd rather have dazed. dazed means any frontline or midline with a weapon can contribute to shutdown.
And I like how you use commas in the wrong places.
As a side note, if you want an interrupt bitch then Magebane is better now. i'd rather have dazed. dazed means any frontline or midline with a weapon can contribute to shutdown.
Tab
Draw Conditions. Dismiss Condition (seeing as you dont want to take Apply). Restore Condition. Mending Touch.
All pretty common.
All pretty common.
jaeharys targaryen
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
Draw Conditions. Dismiss Condition (seeing as you dont want to take Apply). Restore Condition. Mending Touch.
All pretty common. other team members that cause conditions.
pretty common too.
All pretty common. other team members that cause conditions.
pretty common too.
Tab
so i herd Blind and DW as cover conditions are gud.....
jaeharys targaryen
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
so i herd Blind and DW as cover conditions are gud.....
i heard the same about disease, poison, crippled, and bleeding.
i'd use this in seriously dedicated conditions build.
i'd use this in seriously dedicated conditions build.
Tab
Smoke Trap.
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jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
Smoke Trap.
. i like my monks dazed more than 1/2 of the time.
. i like my monks dazed more than 1/2 of the time.
Tab
You can't consistantly keep both monks dazed for a decent duration using an interrupt.
Smoke Trap also allows you to do more than just spam Conc Shot.
Smoke Trap also allows you to do more than just spam Conc Shot.
jaeharys targaryen
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
You can't consistantly keep both monks dazed for a decent duration using an interrupt.
Smoke Trap also allows you to do more than just spam Conc Shot. trappers run around waiting for traps to recharge and not doing all too much. this does damage and can daze every 5 seconds.
Smoke Trap also allows you to do more than just spam Conc Shot. trappers run around waiting for traps to recharge and not doing all too much. this does damage and can daze every 5 seconds.
Tab
It can daze every 5 seconds if you can find a interruptable skill every 5 seconds. And then you're relying on Aegis/whatever else they have up not stopping it.
Smoke Trap can't be blocked, and it has AoE. And in GvG, AoE daze is the only daze that will do anything for you.
Smoke Trap can't be blocked, and it has AoE. And in GvG, AoE daze is the only daze that will do anything for you.
jaeharys targaryen
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
It can daze every 5 seconds if you can find a interruptable skill every 5 seconds. And then you're relying on Aegis/whatever else they have up not stopping it.
Smoke Trap can't be blocked, and it has AoE. And in GvG, AoE daze is the only daze that will do anything for you. why am i arguing this? we dont even use rangers in [Zeus]. i made this (as usual) for ta.
Smoke Trap can't be blocked, and it has AoE. And in GvG, AoE daze is the only daze that will do anything for you. why am i arguing this? we dont even use rangers in [Zeus]. i made this (as usual) for ta.
moko
stop failing and take apply in pvp.
also, this is in the end, baed for ta.
also, this is in the end, baed for ta.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by Mokone
stop failing and take apply in pvp.
arguing with tab is the reason i come here.(and to troll price checks). forgive me, sah, but i realize it was astupid thing to argue.
and tbh, i made the mistake (again) of vehemently defending a build i made in about <2minutes and thought had a chance of being acceptable.
and tbh, i made the mistake (again) of vehemently defending a build i made in about <2minutes and thought had a chance of being acceptable.
FoxS
If you want to spam concussion shot, you could combine it with archer's signet so there is no energy cost.
Kale Ironfist
Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxS
If you want to spam concussion shot, you could combine it with archer's signet so there is no energy cost.
Did you forget [skill]Prepared Shot[/skill]?