How do you help new GW players?

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

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Originally Posted by Malice Black
Send them to Guru lol so they can join the rest of the clueless people
I guess that includes you then :P

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

I usually pick up one random player who happens to be looking for group to do mission when I am re-doing a mission to get bonus/masters, usually for missions that I know I can get the bonus/master with 3 heros and 3 henchs. why waste a space, ey.

PS: they don't necessary have to be new, just need to happens to be there when I am there. will usually get the mission + the bonus. 99% chance even if that player is a killroy.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Do you give free items or free runs?
No, if they're begging freebies, they'll get nowhere in GW.

Help them in missions?

If i'm helping a friend on a mission, i may take along a few randoms.

Teach them about game mechanics?

Sometimes, depends how they ask me.

Give them tips on what to do next?

Briefly, yes.

Help them find the information they are looking for?

I just say "Guildwiki".

Tour them through the UI and basic controls?
Nope.

Tell them the philosophy behind a skill, a build or a profession?

Occasionally.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Do you give free items or free runs?

only to friends new at GW. Random Dude will farm...

Help them in missions?

gotta help henchies already, so i guess not, PUG will always fail

Teach them about game mechanics?

Only about W or R, if they ask for Para-gone stuff i'll give em the wiki url

Give them tips on what to do next?

people never listen
if you want Random Dude to go right, pick left to increase the odds

Help them find the information they are looking for?

Wiki+guru+google -> hf m8

Tour them through the UI and basic controls?

i was scared when i saw a friend moving using the mouse
so yeah^^

Tell them the philosophy behind a skill, a build or a profession?

the usual -> Wammo is gay, Ass-assin aint no tank and Monk doesnt use swords

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

I sometimes when board go to ascalon and see the pleading for something
see what lvl they are and sus them out first then
decide to help them on a short quest or mission ect.
I Never give gold away but if I have something thats merch food I give it to them.
Many ask for more so I then ignore them but others are very greatfull
and that evens it out for me.
I do get tired of answering the same question specially at Events
so thats the time for local chat to go off.
I do give free items to my friends if they need something I have.
Complicated questions ect I say check Wiki from the ingame help
and also tell them about Guru.

MikeV

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Right in the middle

E/Me

Last night I sold one a Fiery bowstring and a +29 bow grip for a total of 600gp. I also gave him the link to Guildwiki. I didn't link him to Guildwarsguru though because I didn't want him to lose his good attitude about the game. Read a few threads and tell me it's not true.....

A_Muppet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Do you give free items or free runs?Nope. Anything good can be sold, and even newbies won't take 'poor' golds usually.

Help them in missions?My assassin never gets groups, my ritualist never gets groups, and even my ranger can have trouble getting non-gimmick groups. So... no.

Teach them about game mechanics? Depends how they ask.

Give them tips on what to do next? Sometimes.

Help them find the information they are looking for? Depends on the info. I'll usually just tell them. At risk of flamebait, guru and wiki is full of asshole gimmick builds and strategies that suffer badly after an update.

Tour them through the UI and basic controls?Something as basic as that should be covered by themselves, by reading the manual.

Tell them the philosophy behind a skill, a build or a profession?
I usually tell them to in no real order:
1. Avoid cookiecutter builds at all costs. Ie, stay away from wikibuilds. It's amazing how little you usually suffer from an update (I'm looking at you SS/Reckless Haste combo and exploitable pet corpses just to name two examples) when you don't do them.
2. Bollocks to what people expect, do your own builds and style and don't let people bully you into doing cookiecutters.
3. Skill: Avoid Healing Breeze. Vig. Spirit is better.
4. Skill: Avoid Heal Party. Too much energy for not enough healing. Besides, if your entire team's getting blasted, they're idiots that may learn a thing or two after getting killed. And if they don't, not your problem.
5. Monks can do good damage as smiters.
6. Eles can do good things with earth and water magic.
7. Hammers in pve do work, and can work well.
8. There is no such thing as a bad class. Just bad players.

Ebony Shadowheart

Ebony Shadowheart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

USA

SSW

E/

I've helped people out with money for storage in Shing, even bought a few their first set of armor. Most actually try to pay me back, but I don't worry about it.

I give away any beginner greens I get, or even any good weapon that might help someone out along the way. I've even traded a set of green daggers for a green staff simply because my guildie wanted it and he didn't have the money. Hell, I wasn't using the daggers what was the point in keeping them?

I help people through missions. I've 'powered' people through quests. If I'm there (and not busy) and someone needs a hand or has a question, I have no issue lending a hand. Hell, I've even gotten into (pointless) arguements in defense of someone else that I don't even know more times than I care to admit.

I share dye and materials with my guildies. I bought my ally her 15k canthan monk armor, the dye to make it white, and scrounged up a turtle mini for her simply because she wanted them and I was feeling generous. (It was also her b-day lol).

I guess I'm just strange.

A_Muppet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

No, I hand out the beginner greens and low value greens too... after all, they don't sell so why on earth not?

Musashi Kataro

Musashi Kataro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

Scotland

Though still a bit of a Noob myself I don't believe in helping many Noobs. They bought the game then they can learn to play it.

Ebony Shadowheart

Ebony Shadowheart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

USA

SSW

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A_Muppet
No, I hand out the beginner greens and low value greens too... after all, they don't sell so why on earth not?
Well, to some people low gold is still better than no gold. I've seen numerous people selling beginner greens to new players. Or selling their services, for example.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Do you give free items or free runs?
Nah
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Help them in missions?
If they happen to be there when I'm about to start and they ask, sure.

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Teach them about game mechanics?
I'll tell them what I can.

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Give them tips on what to do next?
Ja.

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Help them find the information they are looking for?
I will, but if it gets too tedious I'll say "Use the help panel in the menu" as a last resort.

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Tour them through the UI and basic controls?
I won't tour them, just answer any questions.

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Tell them the philosophy behind a skill, a build or a profession?
To the best of my ability, and if they ask.

Note: Whenever I say "if they ask", it's implied they ask in a non-rude fashion.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Do you give free items or free runs?

Very rarely do I give away free items. If they need a map piece, or a couple crafting materials or something like that, I have been known to do that. Days past I gave away a lot more to help people out, not expecting anything in return, but I cant afford that anymore due to Heroes, as well as the community has changed to the point where you often might not get so much as a thank you. Friends and guildies? Sure. Of course.

Free runs I'll sometimes do if someone really needs to get somewhere. I used to run a lot and loved that activity as a game mechanic/challenge. It was also a source of income. Nowadays, neither so much. I still do it for fun by myself sometimes though and, if I am in the mood, I will take someone along if in All chat they seem like a decent person.

Help them in missions?

Yeah, sometimes, as I miss the older PUG days.

Teach them about game mechanics?

Not really. Most of the time you cant even get someone in a PUG to ping their build and, if they do, they even more rarely heed any advice or take any suggestions in a positive way. If I am asked directly in a PM when I am monking in a PUG, as happens when I go join something randomly to be helpful, then I help much more. Wouldnt say I teach, but certainly answer questions and give advice.

Give them tips on what to do next?

Sure, if they ask. Cant go assuming its not someone's 15th time through some given campaign.

Help them find the information they are looking for?

Sure, as I usually have All chat open. If someone asks something and doesnt get a reply AND they arent spamming typos or something childish etc, I'll offer the answer. Even look it up for them on Wiki to be helpful if I am so inclined.

Tour them through the UI and basic controls?

No. This I would only do for a friend in person. Only thing I could suggest in PM form is to go into Option and explore.

Tell them the philosophy behind a skill, a build or a profession?

Not really. Maybe only generally. I dont wish to assume I know precisely how they would wish to play. Prefer rather to offer specific advice, if asked.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Note: Whenever I say "if they ask", it's implied they ask in a non-rude fashion.
Heh. Yeah, I suppose this applies to me as well. I simply pretend not to notice requests/questions that cant even be bothered to be phrased somewhat intelligently/politely, since we actually see more and more of it lately.

Captain Arne Is PRO

Captain Arne Is PRO

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

i explain that energy attack based warriors are bad, and using mending + blessed aura is a good way of becoming non-reliant of energy on warriors !

Alicendre

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Do you give free items or free runs?
No. You can get decent items just by doing the game and I'm against runs, especially for newbies. Doing a campaign makes you learn your profession.

Help them in missions?
When I'm doing a mission with them, sure.

Teach them about game mechanics?
Yup, I tell them basics (like "daggers with a necro may look cool, but you are going to die too easily" or "no energy management on an Ele is bad"), and help them with their build if they have a good idea of what they want to do.

Give them tips on what to do next?
Depends.

Help them find the information they are looking for?
Depends too. If they ask nicely, I will give them the information or guild wiki.

Tour them through the UI and basic controls?
Well... It has been useful to tell them they have a "t" letter on their keyboard more than once.

Tell them the philosophy behind a skill, a build or a profession?
If it's one of my favorite professions (like Necro), sure. Otherwise, no.

..L..

..L..

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

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Do you give free items or free runs?
I occasionally give any good items I find to people that are in my eyes decent enough to have them, and sometimes when Im running a friend il take as many as possible for free.
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Help them in missions?
If Im bored and only if they can speak proper english, cant be bothered to put up with the "y r u doin tht" language.
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Teach them about game mechanics?
All I tell them is that most of it got nerfed ages ago.
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Give them tips on what to do next?
Only if I pack death nova.
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Help them find the information they are looking for?
Just direct them to wiki or let someone else put up with it.
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Tour them through the UI and basic controls?
If they cant understand something as simple as that they should go back to tetris.
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Tell them the philosophy behind a skill, a build or a profession?
Depends on attitude and language.

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

lol... i simply give them a free mission run and get master for "Zen Daijun" .. thats the best i can do...

but some are so rude they simply leave after being helped, not even at least say "thank you", as if i was going to ask for money.... duh !!

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

give them gold lolol

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Do you give free items or free runs?
WTF is this free you speak of
Help them in missions?
If I have nothing better to do
Teach them about game mechanics?
I teach them what I don't get flamed for
Give them tips on what to do next?
I say look at your quest log
Help them find the information they are looking for?
I say Go to wiki...and don't go to guru =P
Tour them through the UI and basic controls?
Im a lazy bastard hell no
Tell them the philosophy behind a skill, a build or a profession?
On forums assassin's are considered demons from imba hell
Let's gather the best ideas of the GW community.
Better idea, Lets drink lemonade and SAY we gathered the best ideas of the gw community

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

Well when I used to play this is what I did:

1. Gave them tips and builds on farming
2. Gave them legitimate price checks on stuff
3. Told them about guildwiki
4. Told them about gwguru
5. Answered their questions on various subjects
6. Gave free help on quests and runs depending on where they had to go

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

i occasionally tell them the basics and help on just random questiosn if im entering a town. my answer usually does involve saying go to wiki aswell as the answer to be friendly.

yarddog

yarddog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Philadelphia-Go Eagles

Raptor Five [Five]

W/

i'll answer questions if i know the answer, i do not feed beggars ! i will and have helped on missions that are extremely tough or require human help, ie: eternal grove, but only if asked nicely. i ALWAYS help my guildies my definition of help is this: i will assit in missions/bonuses. never give money, will give materials-within reason. will give away weapons that i dont need or want. basically i try to be as pleasant as possible to all fellow GW players.

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

I'll answer a legitimate question, when I can. However, I tend to ignore the overly needy.

Sometimes I give persistent beggars good advice: go out and kill something.

Amon Warrior

Amon Warrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

Usually when I have someone asking for information on how to do a certain thing in the game, I do a quick search in wiki, copy the web address and forward the link.

"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will eat for a lifetime" - Chinese proverb, a personal favorite of mine

wilson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

aggro bubble

[RD];[FW];[GOTS];[baed];[kiSu]

I ignore everyone and everything. My all/trade/team chat is off 95% of the time (unless playing with guildies/friends). I don't help anyone anymore. Too many bad experiences.

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

making sarcastic remarks is my "thing". If they are still clueless after that, i usually help them. /sigh

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

Give them my identified golds

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

I kick them in the nuts, tell them to get used to that happening, pat them on the back and walk away.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

I'll usually whisper a link to the wiki to help. I've been burnt by helping people out with plat / materials etc and end up getting begging whispers for weeks afterwards so I don't bother anymore.

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

I sometimes help out newbies by giving them free runs trough early missions, free items (greens or crappy golds).

I had a lot of left over greens from all the HoS runs and gave those to newbies in Ascalon, then helped them trough missions and gave them a little pocketmoney..

Sometimes when i see someone asking for 500g or maybe some iron or something i'll help them out. Also give advice to newbies.

I am actually very friendly and helpful.. I believe in Karma

Dan0xxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

[CEL]

Hmmm... There seems to be alot of hate for new players who need a little bit of advice in this game, i believe that alot of people begging in towns are infact not first time players, generally they are players with other characters. These people i think should not be begging nor trying to take advantage of their low level...

... But i do believe that players that are infact NEW to the game, their first main character should be helped and i try to do so in every way i can... if i have free greens or vendor trash items lying around i will give it to them to help them on their way, if they need help in a mission i will help, and if they need advice i am happy to oblige... although i do tend to make sure they are first time players and not just trying to take my good nature for granted...

So to sum up, i dont think the true NEWBIES or NEW players should be punished for what a few selfish players do.

Quru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Acolytes of Death

N/

If some 'noob' is begging 50g or something and i'm on good mood, i'll give them few plats. I remember how cool was when some "über rich leet player" boosted me with black dye If they beging begging more and/or spamming some stupid questions for me, i simply ignore them.

Whisper Evenstar

Whisper Evenstar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

NYC

Governors Of Destruction [GOD]

E/

I will help by giving info/advice/partying, but never by giving money. I feel sad for all the peeps out there who don't want to work to earn anything on their own... its going to be a tough life for them.

JoeKnowMo

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

Mo/

I help them out by buying their black dyes for 100g.

Nah, I usually just pug with them and give them some pointers.

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

- i often give advice to people and tell em of tricks/ easier ways etc etc if i know em
-i also have done some give aways to poeple i don't know and people i do know.

but i tend to avoid beggers and people who "claim" items (as in people who get aggresive if they don't get it at all or not fast enough)

Dreikki

Dreikki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kemi, Finland.

Pirates of the Searing [YoHo]

Mo/

I mock them for having bad items and tell them that their skill bar sucks ass and then I kick them out of my party, ignore them and tell them to stop playing.

erfweiss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cold Black Eyes

W/A

Do you give free items or free runs?
- No, I don't give things away.

Help them in missions?
- Yes, if I'm doing the mission. On early missions when going for Protector, I look for low levels to bring along.

Teach them about game mechanics?
- If I see what they are doing to correct, I'll point something out.

Give them tips on what to do next?
- I give advice if asked for it

Help them find the information they are looking for?
- Honesty is the best policy. If they want to know something and I know what they want, happy to share.

Tour them through the UI and basic controls?
- Not often. I'm not a tutorial

Tell them the philosophy behind a skill, a build or a profession?
- Yes. I figure I have Protectors with all 10 professions, I might have a trick or two.