W/E as first toon

Bobalexio

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Ill be starting the game in a couple hours and was wondering if a warrior is a good choice and then a elementalist and the secondary part. Id probably either go fire or earth i guess. would this be a good combo? Not really into the W/Mo and im looking for a really good pvp combo. Any suggestions?

Bobalexio

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

might even go w/n since ive read some good things about w/n's

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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War/ele is an excelent combo. They have many differnt bulds and are very versitile.

That being said its probably more effective in PvE than PvP. Most PvP builds with wars are all war skills + res, though there are lots of exceptions.

Have fun with it, play with the conjures and dont over look Ice as slowing a foe at range can be very helpfull.

Bobalexio

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

ok thanks this helps alot. I have decided to either go monk or ele as secondary so ill just play around and see what i like

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Just remember, if you do choose W/E to just use utility spells such as conjures in pve and pvp or shock in pvp. Other ele skills cost too much energy for a warrior to use and don't realy fit on a warrior skillbar.

kel77

kel77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Deep South

The Arctic Marauders[TAM] Former Leader and Officer | [SMS] Alliance

W/E

I went through prophecies as a warrior/ele and loved every minute of it. Experiment with different elements keeping in mind that conjures are your friend. Since earth has no conjure, go pure tank with armor of earth, stoneflesh aura, and maybe a ward. Remember though, always have fun

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by kel77
Since earth has no conjure, go pure tank with armor of earth, stoneflesh aura, and maybe a ward. Tanking sucks hard, don't ever think of doing it unless you're in DoA or something. Wards and protective ele spells should be left to defensive characters, because they're a waste of attribute points, slots, and time. Your job to to pwn stuff, not to screw around.

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

W/E is great, but I would recommend strongly against using any of the Elementalist skills available to you as a new character. The ones that are actually useful to a Warrior aren't available to much later in the game. As I recall, you have access to stuff like Flare, Firestorm, and Lava Font... damage spells that cost a lot of energy to do less damage than your sword/axe/hammer. They're a bad idea at level 5, they're not much better once you hit level 20. If you want to cast things like these just make an Elementalist.

Elementalist skills that are useful to a Warrior include

[skill]Conjure Flame[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Conjure Frost[/skill][skill]Shock[/skill][skill]Grasping Earth[/skill]

because they provide good utility that adds to or helps your primary weapon, and have reasonable energy costs that a Warrior can deal with.

I would recommend for now either take W/E with all Warrior skills, or take another secondary class and change it to W/E later if you want.

Exhonour

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

douches

W/E

i dont undestand, what is armor penetration in shock? wat does it do?>

Reinfire

Reinfire

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Amsterdam, NL

The Guild of Cunning Artificiers [ANKH]

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the 25% armour penetration means that the damage negates 25% of the foe's armour. For example when you hit a foe who has 100 armour, the damage of the skill is like it hits a foe with 75 armour

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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W/E is a pretty good combo and that was my first char in GW as well. Your best option is probably to put whatever points you don't put into your weapon and either strength or tactics and put it into one of the conjure lines. If you insist on going weapon+tactics+two el lines (earth and a conjure line) spec out:

10+1+1 (weapon)
10+1 (tactics)
8 (conjure line)
8 (earth)

That isn't an optimal split, but it is usable.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
W/E is a pretty good combo and that was my first char in GW as well. Your best option is probably to put whatever points you don't put into your weapon and either strength or tactics and put it into one of the conjure lines. If you insist on going weapon+tactics+two el lines (earth and a conjure line) spec out:

10+1+1 (weapon)
10+1 (tactics)
8 (conjure line)
8 (earth)

That isn't an optimal split, but it is usable. Just dont use 2 ele attribs, makes me think about the hamstorm warrior on the prophecies box :x

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

And you'll want your weapon mastery to be at least 14 (12+1+1), or you'll fail at damage.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobalexio
might even go w/n since ive read some good things about w/n's I'd advise you to go W/N for your first character. [card]Plague Touch[/card]

Then go W/E after if you want. I don't find /E to be beneficial in PvE anymore.
But if you do, please don't go with the skill distribution that Winterclaw posted.

You need at least 14 in your weapon attribute. Don't split your attribute 4 ways.

Reflect

Reflect

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Varna,Bulgaria

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

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Why don`t you try
W/A with [card]Shadow Refuge[/card] -> great and cheap self-heal

yum

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobalexio
Ill be starting the game in a couple hours and was wondering if a warrior is a good choice and then a elementalist and the secondary part. Id probably either go fire or earth i guess. would this be a good combo? Not really into the W/Mo and im looking for a really good pvp combo. Any suggestions?
go W/E and play a REAL build: shockaxe or cripslash, if you reall want to learn how to play the game. Why not make a pvp toon? It's easier if you are really into pvp. W/D rending touch is also a very good build.

Note: there is no "tank" in pvp. Don't tempt to be one. And be open to criticism^_^.

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exhonour
i dont undestand, what is armor penetration in shock? wat does it do?> Warriors use Shock as a melee-range, unconditional knockdown in Eviscerate builds. The damage is a non-point. Most W/E's put 2 points in Air Magic, or whatever their leftover happens to be. Observe GvG and HA games sometime, you'll see Warriors using that build almost exclusively.

But for your question, it ignores the effects of 25% of the target's armor when damage is calculated for it. Most Air Magic spells do that.

Hells_Faithful

Hells_Faithful

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Void

Hells_Followers [HF]

R/W

Just play whatever feels right... Try to pick professions that seem to meld well with each other ( W/Mo... A/R... etc...)

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

Warrior ele is pretty PvP only now since the nerf of earth tanks for warrior. I think they were called OB tanks?

ax mastery

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Really good pvp war build= W/E: (14 axe 13 str 3 air) Eviserate(E), Executioner's strike, DChop, Shock, Frenzy, Bulls Strike, Rush, Res Sig.

D chop is a pretty open slot, but thats what i mostly perfer.

Be open to criticism, because you will be bad at first.

Dan0xxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

[CEL]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
War/ele is an excelent combo. They have many differnt bulds and are very versitile.

That being said its probably more effective in PvE than PvP. Most PvP builds with wars are all war skills + res, though there are lots of exceptions.

Have fun with it, play with the conjures and dont over look Ice as slowing a foe at range can be very helpfull. Hmmm i believe you got PvP and PvE mixed up there... Most Warrior PvP builds aren't just warrior skills and res... find that more in PvE

Dan0xxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

[CEL]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Tanking sucks hard, don't ever think of doing it unless you're in DoA or something. Wards and protective ele spells should be
left to defensive characters, because they're a waste of attribute points, slots, and time. Your job to to pwn stuff, not to screw around. Tanking sucks hard!? nooooo it doesn't, honeslty. Tanking works fine in PvE, although its difficult if you use the right skills at the right times to hold aggro you do fine.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan0xxx
Tanking sucks hard!? nooooo it doesn't, honeslty. Tanking works fine in PvE, although its difficult if you use the right skills at the right times to hold aggro you do fine. No, dedicating a character to tanking sucks.

The warrior should take initial aggro, then proceed to kill shit.

And you don't need a tank when you've got "Save Yourselves!"

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

N/

SY > Tanking

Damage Dealing > Tanking

Tanking > Mending + Vampiric weapon.

Draginvry

Draginvry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Underground PvP Society (PVPS)

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
Tanking > Mending + Vampiric weapon. Mending + Vampiric weapon > Vampiric weapon and no weapon switching between mobs.

I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it with my own eyes.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draginvry
Mending + Vampiric weapon > Vampiric weapon and no weapon switching between mobs.

I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it with my own eyes. seen it myself and got called a noob for telling the moron ot switch weapons out of combat.