now THIS is what I call a dragon slash PvP build

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Two Words : Tough Love.

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Originally Posted by Magikarp
and regardless, im suprised that you're suprised. i've been a member of this site for like.. 2 weeks, and i think i might delete my accout because of how wretched the community is here.
This gave me a good laugh. Just because you don't see people on the internet doesn't mean everyone's nice. If you think all sites have friendly communities, then you need a reality check. The real world doesn't work this way.
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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
Two Words : Tough Love. That's right.

Magikarp

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Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
This gave me a good laugh. Just because you don't see people on the internet doesn't mean everyone's nice. If you think all sites have friendly communities, then you need a reality check. The real world doesn't work this way.
That's right.
lol most sites dont have nice communities, so wherever you got the idea i feel that way, i'll never know. the reality check is that its people like you who ruin the integrity of an entire websites social populus. the real world is full of hate and disgusting people, thats why associating with a cess pool of the very same terrible people is nothing but social, and even self downfall.

to break it down so people like Shadowfox could understand, tough love is to give constructive critisism and care for someone you have true feelings for, for their well-being. you guys are simply bashing someone, flaming, trolling, and then trying to justify it and look cool by high-fiving each other like some football jocks, just to boost the e-peen. get real kid, no one likes a flamer.


all and all, the OP probably learned little to nothing about something that was so easy to just simply explain, and thats the major reason why this community is an epic failure.

ensoriki

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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
Three Words : Lol Tough Love . fix'd

Dictionary.com:
Tough love= a mixture of toughness and warmth used in a relationship, esp. with an adolescent.

tough love
n. The use of strict disciplinary measures and limitations on freedoms or privileges, as by a parent or guardian, as a means of fostering responsibility and expressing care or concern.

>.> Wheres the warmth or Fostering of responsibility




OP put Frenzy and Dash/Sprint/Rush/Flurry in

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Originally Posted by Magikarp
to break it down so people like Shadowfox could understand.

all and all, the OP probably learned little to nothing about something that was so easy to just simply explain, and thats the major reason why this community is an epic failure.
And yet you flame Shadowfox?

an "Epic Failure" YOU don't HAVE to be a part of.

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Originally Posted by Magikarp
lol do you even know what flaming is Qdq? if its that offensive to someone who's so rude, and they feel like they deserve more respect, maybe they'll think twice next time being so rude to others first. Nop... Im a halfwit.

Magikarp

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lol do you even know what flaming is Qdq? if its that offensive to someone who's so rude, and they feel like they deserve more respect, maybe they'll think twice next time being so rude to others first.

Brian the Gladiator

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This is a pvp build and the fact of the matter is, this build probably DOES work in AB... but what doesn't? AB is the lowest and most BRAIN DEAD form of pvp of the bunch closely followed by Hero Battles.

At the moment, blocking is the current meta which means that D-slash is out... OUT!!!

why you may ask...

It takes 10 adrenaline to charge up and once you finally have enough to use it "blocked". and your entire chain is gone.

Currently you try to counter this with "For Great Justice!", Enduring Harmony, and Soldier's Strike. This fails because these skills are bad compared to the standard Shock Axe, Crip Slash, or Earth Shaker bars. You lose your cancel stance, deep wounding skill, and interrupt/knock down skill that warrior bars require to stay competitive in the current meta. There is a reason why warriors are using bull's strike, shock, Eviscerate, Gash, Crushing Blow, Disrupting chop, ect. These skills give the bar versatility, which is something that your skill bar just doesn't have.

I'm going to stop typing now because I'm tired of repeating myself in these warrior threads. Simply, learn why the meta is the way it is and learn game mechanics.

Brian the Gladiator

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I gave this a try similar to the first one I posted.

Barbourouse Slice,Gash,Final Thrust,Dragon Slash,Healing Sig,Frenzy,Sprint and Res Sig.

This one worked really good goes BS>Gash> DS> FT or DS.BS>Gash>FT. Sorry for the double post but i have to comment on this...

Don't you see the missed steps in logic when comboing [skill=text]Barbarous Slice[/skill] and [skill=text]Frenzy[/skill]???

Barbarous Slice (when frenzy is up) will not inflict bleeding which means that gash can not deep wound. Bring sever artery instead.

thor thunder

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heres a build i like in PvP mabey it will help.

Enrageing charge (in Ab and general pvp a running stance is a MUST)
"For Great Justice!" (double adren...)
Frenzy (in pve the -33% speed from flail isnt bad, but in pvp...no)
Standing Slash (quick spike when D slash is down, +34 dmg for 6 adren!)
Sun Moon Slash (great for adren gain and double Vamp with vamp weapon)
Dragon Slash (E) (its +42 spamable.. need i say more)
"Sheilds Up!" (team support and it can cover the -40 from HS)
Healing Signet (self heal ALWAYS NEEDED!)

Stats
~ Tac 8+1
~ Str 8+1
~ Swd 12+1+3 or +2 if your a sissy and cant stay alive =P

Use full health besides runes and 1 absorption and it will cover for the -75.
Also you can use riposte instead of Standing Slash so you can counter other warriors its more effective that way beacause most warriors forget to bring defenses so use Sheilds up and Riposte+Dslash and hes good as dead. i know its not very anti block but outside of warriors cunning theres not much anti block stuff for warriors besides single anti block skills.
Wachya think?

Qdq Swi

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Originally Posted by thor thunder
heres a build i like in PvP mabey it will help.

Enrageing charge (in Ab and general pvp a running stance is a MUST)
"For Great Justice!" (double adren...)
Frenzy (in pve the -33% speed from flail isnt bad, but in pvp...no)
Standing Slash (quick spike when D slash is down, +34 dmg for 6 adren!)
Sun Moon Slash (great for adren gain and double Vamp with vamp weapon)
Dragon Slash (E) (its +42 spamable.. need i say more)
"Sheilds Up!" (team support and it can cover the -40 from HS)
Healing Signet (self heal ALWAYS NEEDED!)

Stats
~ Tac 8+1
~ Str 8+1
~ Swd 12+1+3 or +2 if your a sissy and cant stay alive =P

Use full health besides runes and 1 absorption and it will cover for the -75.
Wachya think? for RA its rubbish. The noobiest thing you can do in RA is not bring a rez sig.

iridescentfyre

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Originally Posted by thor thunder
Wachya think? Use a Crippling Slash build, use a non-Sword elite, or go Axe. Dragon Slash is simply not appropriate for PvP.

Dr Strangelove

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I absolutely love monking against dslashers in RA. One shield bash or guardian and they're useless for a long time.

Sir Pandra Pierva

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I have started packing shield bash in PvP almost always know when I RA or sometimes even TA. It's great for pissing off sins.

thor thunder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
for RA its rubbish. The noobiest thing you can do in RA is not bring a rez sig. yess i know this! its for AB. I dont even bring my warrior in RA... EVER its a waist wayyyyy to many blocks and anti melle. Plus Necros own in pvp or i use my healing rit its fun with resto+weapon spells.
Yeah i know D-slash is = terrible in general pvp
(heck MELEE IN PvP = TERRIBLE)
but i was just trying to answer the OP and get some feed back from him.
Thanks tho

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Originally Posted by thor thunder
heck MELEE IN PvP = TERRIBLE Observe GvG or HA sometime. Warriors using good builds pwn face in PvP.

Brian the Gladiator

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
heres a build i like in PvP mabey it will help.

Enrageing charge (in Ab and general pvp a running stance is a MUST)
"For Great Justice!" (double adren...)
Frenzy (in pve the -33% speed from flail isnt bad, but in pvp...no)
Standing Slash (quick spike when D slash is down, +34 dmg for 6 adren!)
Sun Moon Slash (great for adren gain and double Vamp with vamp weapon)
Dragon Slash (E) (its +42 spamable.. need i say more)
"Sheilds Up!" (team support and it can cover the -40 from HS)
Healing Signet (self heal ALWAYS NEEDED!)

Stats
~ Tac 8+1
~ Str 8+1
~ Swd 12+1+3 or +2 if your a sissy and cant stay alive =P

Use full health besides runes and 1 absorption and it will cover for the -75.
Also you can use riposte instead of Standing Slash so you can counter other warriors its more effective that way beacause most warriors forget to bring defenses so use Sheilds up and Riposte+Dslash and hes good as dead. i know its not very anti block but outside of warriors cunning theres not much anti block stuff for warriors besides single anti block skills.
Wachya think? So much fail in one post...

1) Don't use sup or major runes because health is your best friend. Get it as high as possible (that means 600hp or higher).
2)DON'T BRING RIPOSTE!!! omg, if a warrior is beating on you, than feal lucky he isn't hitting one of your, lower AL, team mates.
3)Your attributes don't even add up... you can put 2 more points into either strength or tactics.
4)BRING DEEP WOUND AND DONT MAKE ME SAY IT AGAIN!
5)You don't need shields up to cover the heal sig. Just don't cast it when you have a mob of people beating on you. Kite away and then use it.
6)Bring Rush instead of Enraging Charge so that you can cancel frenzy more.
7)D-slash is bad.
8)D-slash is bad.
9)D-slash is bad.
10)D-slash is bad.
The current meta is block... duh!

thor thunder

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oh ok im wrong im not a big pvp person.
so help me out
if you could pick 4 classes/people to run RA/GvG what precentige would be a melee class??
from what i have heard derv are veryyyy poor in pvp out side of a cookie cutter weary-meladru(spelling).
Assasins are even worse do to there endless squishyness???
Warriors... warriors are good in pvp but from what i have heard/seen they can be easly peplaced.

I know i would chose Monk/Rit (heals) Monk (Prot) para (shouter/dmg) and ele (dmg).
is this wrong? Considering 90% of general pvp now use Block it counts melee out 90% of the time?? yes they add presure but why bring a useless presure warrior when you can just bring a Lifestealing necro that will cut right thru there defense?
well w/e lesson learned

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
from what i have heard derv are veryyyy poor in pvp out side of a cookie cutter weary-meladru(spelling).
EDA is also ftw
Quote: Assasins are even worse do to there endless squishyness??? sins are easy to play.
Quote: Warriors... warriors are good in pvp but from what i have heard/seen they can be easly peplaced. seen any GvG's lately?
gogo evis war!!
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I know i would chose Monk/Rit (heals) Monk (Prot) para (shouter/dmg) and ele (dmg). N/Rt is still around:P
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is this wrong? Considering 90% of general pvp now use Block it counts melee out 90% of the time?? yes they add presure but why bring a useless presure warrior when you can just bring a Lifestealing necro that will cut right thru there defense? WoOt for enchant and stance removal
also...dont forget ranger and paragon

iridescentfyre

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
oh ok im wrong im not a big pvp person.
so help me out
if you could pick 4 classes/people to run RA/GvG what precentige would be a melee class??
from what i have heard derv are veryyyy poor in pvp out side of a cookie cutter weary-meladru(spelling).
Assasins are even worse do to there endless squishyness???
Warriors... warriors are good in pvp but from what i have heard/seen they can be easly peplaced.

I know i would chose Monk/Rit (heals) Monk (Prot) para (shouter/dmg) and ele (dmg).
is this wrong? Considering 90% of general pvp now use Block it counts melee out 90% of the time?? yes they add presure but why bring a useless presure warrior when you can just bring a Lifestealing necro that will cut right thru there defense?
well w/e lesson learned Blocking happens. Its not the end of the world and it doesn't make Warriors useless, it just means to switch target. I'd say most (good) GvG groups run at least two Warriors unless they're doing some crazy, specialized, unbalanced build. Seriously dude, hit B and observe some high-level PvP, and take a look at group dynamic, the structure of the group, and individual builds. Go go go

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Generally you'd have 2 melee, 3 midline + flagger, and 2 backline (i.e. monks) in GvG.

Unless the meta shifted to 3-monks, which I'm not aware of because I'm not active anymore.

Stormlord Alex

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Nope, still 2 monks generally.

Though Heal Party eles are seen again

Brian the Gladiator

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Standard GvG Balance:

W/E - Shock Axe
W/E - Shock Axe
R/Mo - Crip Shot + interrupts
Me/Rt - E-surge + Diversion + interupts + Enchant Removal
E/Mo - B-surge + Draw + Ward against Melee
Mo/any - WoH monk
Mo/and - RC Monk
Rt/D or Mo/E or E/Mo - Flag Runner

This build is good because of it's versitility.
Warriors are the offense or front line of the build. They deal the damage and cause the red bars of the other team to go down.

The mid-line is the Ranger, Mesmer, and Elementalist.
-the ranger allows for versatility by snaring with crip-shot, ganking ability with natural stride, troll unguent, and mending touch, and also gives shut down via interrupts.
-the B-surge is mostly for defense at the stand. Shuts down the Warriors on the other team via Blind + ward. Also keeps our warriors clean of blind with Draw.
-Backline (the monks) keep the red bars up
-Flag runner Does a whole bunch of stuff but mostly just keeps the flags coming in to the stand and defendes against ganks. They now have the role of party heals.

The main reason why warriors are used to be the offense, instead of necro or ele and such, is because they have huge DPS and also have the ability to cause much more pressure on monks and midliners. Simply put, the warrior is the best class at bringing down red bars.

Dark Paladin X

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well here's a thing on shock warriors:

Shock gives exhaustion, which can be big problem for warriors because of the low energy pool. Dragon slash build on the other hand, doesn't have energy problems because most of skills DON'T use energy. I already modify my build to have healing signet on it, but I'm still going to keep flail and enduring harmony so I can have FGJ last longer and spam D-slash more. After all, I could say Beowulf in the movie and in the epic is a Dragon-Slash spammer with his famous Hrunting.

Qdq Swi

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
well here's a thing on shock warriors:

Shock gives exhaustion, which can be big problem for warriors because of the low energy pool. Dragon slash build on the other hand, doesn't have energy problems because most of skills DON'T use energy. I already modify my build to have healing signet on it, but I'm still going to keep flail and enduring harmony so I can have FGJ last longer and spam D-slash more. After all, I could say Beowulf in the movie and in the epic is a Dragon-Slash spammer with his famous Hrunting.
.... 70+ posts of people telling you to do otherwise... you don't absorb much do you?

Dragon Slash builds arent supposed to use energy.. Hence why theyr called 'adren builds'. Exhaustion on wars isnt a terribly big deal... Most skills are adren based anyway... and shock used sparingly (as in when needed) is a great skill to have on your bar. Flail is not for PvP! I know about 25 people have told you this already, and have justified why so I dont see why your so persistant at being Wrong Enduring + FGJ = PvE... no need to say anymore.

btw.. that pic is rofl

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ohhh sry like i said i dont play much for get pvp lol last time i played pvp was on my femal warrior in low lvl battles for kicks and that was a wile ago.
Ok so whats a good ideal build for RA or AB where a group isnt organized?
I like shock axe i have used it before but i like running it with more knockdown, hows the skill "None Shall Pass!" ? its energy tight but great for multiple fleeing people? i think it has a long cool down tho il have to go look.
well thx guys you all my be trolling and blowing this wayyyy up but im still learning and thats what matters =P.

"Stormlord, you know that'd trolling,"
heh what new Stormlord=no life troll
dont beleieve me just look at his past comments in his profile lol its sad.

Qdq Swi

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
ohhh sry like i said i dont play much for get pvp lol last time i played pvp was on my femal warrior in low lvl battles for kicks and that was a wile ago.
Ok so whats a good ideal build for RA or AB where a group isnt organized?
I like shock axe i have used it before but i like running it with more knockdown, hows the skill "None Shall Pass!" ? its energy tight but great for multiple fleeing people? i think it has a long cool down tho il have to go look.
well thx guys you all my be trolling and blowing this wayyyy up but im still learning and thats what matters =P.

"Stormlord, you know that'd trolling,"
heh what new Stormlord=no life troll
dont beleieve me just look at his past comments in his profile lol its sad. [skill]Bull's Strike[/skill] Shock + Bull's Strike = 2 KD... Need I say more?

Brian the Gladiator

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
ohhh sry like i said i dont play much for get pvp lol last time i played pvp was on my femal warrior in low lvl battles for kicks and that was a wile ago.
Ok so whats a good ideal build for RA or AB where a group isnt organized?
I like shock axe i have used it before but i like running it with more knockdown, hows the skill "None Shall Pass!" ? its energy tight but great for multiple fleeing people? i think it has a long cool down tho il have to go look.
well thx guys you all my be trolling and blowing this wayyyy up but im still learning and thats what matters =P.

"Stormlord, you know that'd trolling,"
heh what new Stormlord=no life troll
dont beleieve me just look at his past comments in his profile lol its sad. Your question is very vague. What class do you want to play and what purpose do you want your build to be for?

Making your own RA and AB build that is actually GOOD isn't hard at all. You just need to think, "What is it that I want to accomplish with this build?" I will try to answer your question the best i can without actually knowing what class you want to be...

In AB, it is probably going to be capping shrines. With this said, you need a good running skill, damage, self heal, and some utility/shutdown. Now, look at the skills of the class that you want to be and add as many of these things into the bar as possible in the most affective way as possible. For some classes, it will be hard to fit all of these in so that is where you may have to rely on others to do some for you, like a monk instead of self healing or a ranger instead of utility/shutdown, ect.

In RA, you should look at the same concepts. You may not necessarily need the running skill unless your a someone who most people will run away from. Basically, you need a build that will accomplish a specific goal, whether it is shutting down healers, dealing a bunch of damage, shutting down the other teams damage, or keeping your team alive. Honestly, the best way to win in RA is to be a good monk IMHO because teams generally suck at everything, so as long as no one on your team dies, you can't lose...

Arkantos

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dumb trolls are dumb.
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