Sword Or Axe?

furanshisuko

furanshisuko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

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15 Nov 2007 at 16:53 - 1
i got a warrior on the way to get his silver eagle armour i also want to get some nice gear i really like destroyer axe but im currently running a sword build i was wondering should i stick whit a sword build whit
100 blades or triple chop is better i just needed to know which build will make more dmg as i see i think triple chop seam better but some help plz

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

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15 Nov 2007 at 17:13 - 2
Id say swords.. Stick to it and in the long run you reap greater rewards... Axe can be good for single hit high damage... but swords tend to be more consistant... you know what your gunna hit.. umm.. 100 blades and triple chop are both bad... well Triple chop is alright if your using an axe.. theres no axe DS equivelant.. If your going for high consistant damage use dragon slash build.. Also with ds builds you can support your team.. Wy or Sy work nicely.. also perma Kd with Brawling Headbutt... but generally.. its personal preferance.. my dib on sword tho .

Steboy93

Steboy93

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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15 Nov 2007 at 17:15 - 3
Yeah stick with the swords but use the 'godmode' w/p dragon slash+SY build

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

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15 Nov 2007 at 17:41 - 4
100 blades is bad.

Dragon Slash is the best PvE elite.
Swords rule. Fact.

furanshisuko

furanshisuko

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Join Date: Oct 2007

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15 Nov 2007 at 20:35 - 5
omg i bought elite tome for that ...so dragon slash

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

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15 Nov 2007 at 20:38 - 6
That's highly true, but don't give up on Axe, its still king of PvP and still far from useless in PvE.

For sword, make sure you partner Dragon Slash with Flail and "For Great Justice!" and throw in an adrenaline shout like "Watch Yourself!" or (better yet) "Save Yourselves!"

It makes Destroyers cry.

sagilltwins

sagilltwins

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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16 Nov 2007 at 03:18 - 7
AXE = Good for Solo Farming

SWORD = W/E... casually pve?

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

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16 Nov 2007 at 03:19 - 8
hmmm...you know the thing where axe has more dps than swords at 11 mastery and higher? this is with no skills straight up damage right?

axes are still really useful in pve since they have some really good area attacks which swords seem to lack, unless if you take HundredBlades, but then you don't get Dragon Slash or Quivering Blade....

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

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16 Nov 2007 at 05:54 - 9
Dragon slash = godmode in PvE. Axes don't come close.

Triple chop isn't bad, it's just not as balls-tighteningly awesome as dragon slash.

Hundred blades is terrible though, stop using it. The only times I've gotten value out of it is by running it with a splinter weapon and a conjure on a hero.

TEB Elite

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

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16 Nov 2007 at 07:17 - 10
Its completely personal preference, there are fanboys for each, but there are skills and items for both that make them better in their own respects.

Valeria

Valeria

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16 Nov 2007 at 15:01 - 11
definitely sword!
why? because a wyvern blade looks nice with that armor

no one runs one build all the time anyway so get an axe and hammer as well

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

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Join Date: Apr 2006

16 Nov 2007 at 15:03 - 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
100 blades is bad. ok, I'm bad ..

Dan0xxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

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16 Nov 2007 at 15:55 - 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
100 blades is bad.

Dragon Slash is the best PvE elite.
Swords rule. Fact. Dragon slash? Ultimate PvE elite... are you kidding me???

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

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16 Nov 2007 at 15:59 - 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan0xxx
Dragon slash? Ultimate PvE elite... are you kidding me??? No.
Look at "Save Yourselves!" and Brawling Headbutt, then come back and ask that.

Swords > All in PvE. Simple truth.

Dan0xxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

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16 Nov 2007 at 16:05 - 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
No.
Look at "Save Yourselves!" and Brawling Headbutt, then come back and ask that.

Swords > All in PvE. Simple truth. Swords > All in PvE, Yes I agree...

Still, don't like dragon slash

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

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16 Nov 2007 at 16:08 - 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan0xxx
Still, don't like dragon slash Well, I like Dragon Slash.

It makes the rest of my party immortal. The other sword elites are shite by comparison, especially 100 blades *shudders*

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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16 Nov 2007 at 16:46 - 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Well, I like Dragon Slash.

It makes the rest of my party immortal. The other sword elites are shite by comparison, especially 100 blades *shudders* *nods* /agrees

Simple fact.. Dragon slash + Brawling Headbutt + Sy = U83R L33T G0DM0D3.

Why?? Enduring Harmony + Fgt + Dragon Slash = 30 second L33t adren gain...

Dragon Slash + Brawling Headbutt = Spammable Knockdown.

Dragon Slash + Brawling Headbutt + SY = +100 armor to all allies, Spammable Knockdown, Amazing Damage.

FACT!

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

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17 Nov 2007 at 10:49 - 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan0xxx
Swords > All in PvE, Yes I agree...

Still, don't like dragon slash Just because you don't like it doesn't mean Alex is wrong

Arkantos

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17 Nov 2007 at 19:45 - 19
In PvE I prefer running sword. You want a high DPS, and no axe build can give you more DPS then a dragon slash build. With a dragon slash build you can also keep enemies knocked down until they're dead (FGJ + Dslash + Brawling Headbutt) and you can also keep up Save Yourselves! for a good part.

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

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17 Nov 2007 at 22:52 - 20
I noticed axe does more dps to lower armour people, actually i tihnk everyone knows that all ready, but I think that's cool since many enemies you face are like armour 75 and lower.

Savio

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18 Nov 2007 at 00:42 - 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by terminus123
I noticed axe does more dps to lower armour people, actually i tihnk everyone knows that all ready, No it doesn't. You've said this before with no factual evidence.

farmpig

farmpig

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18 Nov 2007 at 02:50 - 22
I think all 3 warrior weapons are on par with each other. Its down to what u like to wield. DS is very good in pve but that does not rander hammer or axe less effective or useful. If DS is as good as what so many people think, it should have been nerfed long ago like the other unbalanced skills.

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

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18 Nov 2007 at 03:01 - 23
I just love axe. They're big and I love AoE damage~

terminus123

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18 Nov 2007 at 04:25 - 24
it just seems numbers are higher when hitting casters with axe, maybe due to lower armour and the range of dmge an axe does (it kinda makes sense rlly), but it seems higher.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

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18 Nov 2007 at 04:42 - 25
Just to clarify.

When hitting a foe with 60armor with an Axe vs a Sword.

IF both attacks result in critical hits then the axe, witch has a higher dmg rating, will deal more damage.

However the same is true regarless of the armor of the target, ie at 100armor a crit hit from an axe deals more dmg than a crit from a sword.

The average dmg however is more equal, the sword deals more constant damage, ie the same numbers with a small variance(1-5 or there about) and the axe has a much larger range dealing both higher and lower amounts of damage in each hit vs the sword(1-15 or there about)

If you never critical on a hit then the sword will deal more damage in the long run. As the number of critical hits increases the amount of damage of the axe begins to catch up and pass that of the sword.

Qdq Swi

Qdq Swi

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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18 Nov 2007 at 14:28 - 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by terminus123
it just seems numbers are higher when hitting casters with axe, maybe due to lower armour and the range of dmge an axe does (it kinda makes sense rlly), but it seems higher.
Uhhh... No it doesnt make sense actually..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Just to clarify.

When hitting a foe with 60armor with an Axe vs a Sword.

IF both attacks result in critical hits then the axe, witch has a higher dmg rating, will deal more damage.

However the same is true regarless of the armor of the target, ie at 100armor a crit hit from an axe deals more dmg than a crit from a sword.

The average dmg however is more equal, the sword deals more constant damage, ie the same numbers with a small variance(1-5 or there about) and the axe has a much larger range dealing both higher and lower amounts of damage in each hit vs the sword(1-15 or there about)

If you never critical on a hit then the sword will deal more damage in the long run. As the number of critical hits increases the amount of damage of the axe begins to catch up and pass that of the sword. Indeed.