Make Heroes Account-based
CHunterX
Please, make Heroes' gear and runes account-based so I'm not swapping 8 weapon sets every time I change professions. And when you do this, put all the subsequent 'extra gear' already placed on each of the Heroes into one of those little 'after-mission item boxes.' Those things never go away until you zone out of town, so there would be no worry if you needed to zone to your Guild Hall or a main city to sell the extra runes and/or weapons you would get from combining Heroes throughout the accounts. Seriously.
Killy D
Can't say I agree. Players wanting to make heroes and titles account based doesn't make sense, whats the point of making a new Factions character with a level 20 Vekk all runes and everything? Same with titles, can't really have a trasure hunter title in a new character.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by CHunterX
Please, make Heroes' gear and runes account-based so I'm not swapping 8 weapon sets every time I change professions. And when you do this, put all the subsequent 'extra gear' already placed on each of the Heroes into one of those little 'after-mission item boxes.' Those things never go away until you zone out of town, so there would be no worry if you needed to zone to your Guild Hall or a main city to sell the extra runes and/or weapons you would get from combining Heroes throughout the accounts. Seriously.
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I dont understand how you expect Anet to make hero weapons account based?
So if your (for example) elemental character has unlocked Koss (Koss A) and he's using a destroyer sword in pve, that when your ranger unlocks Koss (Koss B) it will automatically give Koss B the same destroyer sword as Koss A?
Duplicating it?
Thats not exactly fair on those who cant afford such expensive items. Besides the fact that Heroes come with max weapons when you aquire them. Plus you can buy the bonus pack for a small fee and then just type /bonus to get free max weapons for them.
The same applies for your "extra gear" idea. What if your Koss A is equipped with lots of expensive Runes, does that mean its fair to automatically duplicate the same gear for Koss B?
Automatically giving Koss B full superiour runes?
Heroe skills are account based or free, because its unnacceptable to expect us to buy full skill sets for ever hero and hero skills are a necessity! We would also run out hero skill points if we tried that.
But hero weapons, hero armor and hero gear dont need to be account based because their not necessities.
Hero armor automaticaly levels up and you dont need elite hero armor for them to be effective. You dont need to give heroes runes for them to be effective and you dont need to give them flashy weapons for them to be effective.
Im sure all those things make your hero better to a small degree, but your choosing to spend all this gold on runes and perfect weapons and elite armor for your heroes. Its your own fault if you go around getting each and every hero you own, extra gear just to make them a little better.
Simple solution is either...
a) Save up and be patient if you must buy your heroes all this stuff.
b) Dont spend all your gold buying hero's gear they dont really need.
There is an increasing mentality in GWs to make everything in pve account based, and we need to stop. We cant just say "right, Im choosing to do this thing, despite it not being a necessity, but I dont want to do it on all my characters. Anet must make it account based to my my life easier."
If this was something important that we needed to progress ingame and aquiring it everytime was a pain, then id sign it. But hero gear isnt important because max weapons drop everywhere and their armor increases automatically.
/not signed
CHunterX
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
So if your (for example) elemental character has unlocked Koss (Koss A) and he's using a destroyer sword in pve, that when your ranger unlocks Koss (Koss B) it will automatically give Koss B the same destroyer sword as Koss A?
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The same applies for your "extra gear" idea. What if your Koss A is equipped with lots of expensive Runes, does that mean its fair to automatically duplicate the same gear for Koss B? Automatically giving Koss B full superiour runes? |
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You dont need to give heroes runes for them to be effective and you dont need to give them flashy weapons for them to be effective. |
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Im sure all those things make your hero better to a small degree, but your choosing to spend all this gold on runes and perfect weapons and elite armor for your heroes. |
Killy D
I'm sorry but it doesn't make sense. If you want your heroes to have max weapons then farm cheap greens. Might as well get Anet to give you a few stack of ectos as well. Whats the point of playing a game when everything comes so easy?
Elrien Silentfoot
Well, from personal experience, whenever I make a pvp char, the heroes I've unlocked have the same items as my pve heroes on my ranger.
My point is that Anet has already implemented it to a limited degree.
My point is that Anet has already implemented it to a limited degree.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by CHunterX
... never said ANYTHING about flashy weapons. I just don't like having to take off my Tanzits Cleaver (not a flashy weapon), make room for it in storage, switch characters, add Koss, and add Tanzits Cleaver.
I'm not spending money on perfect weapons and elite armor, and this suggestion would make players have to spend less on 40+ Heroes. |
Im not a monumentally bad idea, but it goes against the principle of the game. You cant just give a weapon to a hero on one character and expect it to be on all your heroes of the same name, accross all your characters.
The same goes for runes.
These are seperate characters and seperate heroes. They have different lives and different existances. Its one thing to share skills accross them, but weapons and runes is a bit extreme.
As a said you can pay £5 and get the bonus weapons and just type /bonus and you get free max weapons. They may not be nice, but hey!
Sorry but I still cant sign this idea, because it makes things too easy. I agree its not nice to have to manage heroes accross alot of characters, but thats the pain of having so many characters.
Keithark
or they could fix loot scale and we could all afford to put max wepons and runes on all our heros
Elrien Silentfoot
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Im not a monumentally bad idea, but it goes against the principle of the game. You cant just give a weapon to a hero on one character and expect it to be on all your heroes of the same name, accross all your characters.
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These are seperate characters and seperate heroes. They have different lives and different existances. Its one thing to share skills accross them, but weapons and runes is a bit extreme. |
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Sorry but I still cant sign this idea, because it makes things too easy. I agree its not nice to have to manage heroes accross alot of characters, but thats the pain of having so many characters. |
lyra_song
Well. I say unsigned, for the fact that a warrior with a warrior hero could be using a significantly different setup than an ele with a warrior hero, and making one hero the same for all your characters destroys customization and individuality of a character.
My warrior uses axe, her Koss uses W/Rt with sword
My Dervish uses a Koss with W/P axe
My Paragon uses Koss purely Warrior heavy on tactics
Since I need them to function differently depending on which character im doing.
You could bring up the point that theres multiple versions of each class but then you have to realize thats only if you have NF & GWEN together.
If such a change were made, i'd have to recustomize rune and weapon setups everything i switched characters.
So /unsigned a lot
My warrior uses axe, her Koss uses W/Rt with sword
My Dervish uses a Koss with W/P axe
My Paragon uses Koss purely Warrior heavy on tactics
Since I need them to function differently depending on which character im doing.
You could bring up the point that theres multiple versions of each class but then you have to realize thats only if you have NF & GWEN together.
If such a change were made, i'd have to recustomize rune and weapon setups everything i switched characters.
So /unsigned a lot
Government Flu
It's relatively cheap to upgrade your most used heroes, so while I understand your frustration, there's no need for this suggestion. So unless you're planning on buying 8 superior runes of vigor, we're talking a possible 10-30k expense to suit up at the very least 3 heroes.
And that's not too shabby. Guild Wars functions very heavily on gold. You'll need to decide whether you want a nice rare weapon, elite armor, or fully runed heroes. It's part of the strategy.
And that's not too shabby. Guild Wars functions very heavily on gold. You'll need to decide whether you want a nice rare weapon, elite armor, or fully runed heroes. It's part of the strategy.
Killy D
Loot scale is fine. If the loot scale goes back to the way it was then the gw market will be in all sorts of chaos.
~ Dan ~
The way i see it? He wants his new lvl1 factions ele to have 3 lvl20 buddies fully decked out in order to make areas even easier than they are now.
Killy D
I agree. Whats the point of an easy game?
Nuclfus
What lyra_song said. I personally think having separate sets of heroes for each character is a good thing. As it is now, you're given the choice between having to switch Tanzits Cleaver across characters or just buying one of them for each Koss you have. Neither choice is effortless on your part but nonetheless you're free to keep identical Koss builds across all characters as opposed having them varied.
But your solution either forces everyone to play all their characters with the exact same hero setup or causes the same inconvenience of switching for people who want different hero builds depending on their character (and as that inconvenience was the same problem you set out to solve, that shouldn't be the case).
But your solution either forces everyone to play all their characters with the exact same hero setup or causes the same inconvenience of switching for people who want different hero builds depending on their character (and as that inconvenience was the same problem you set out to solve, that shouldn't be the case).
Deadly Panda
U could also use pre-order items. These are free and can be made again (/bonus)
BlackSephir
Make heroes acc based for characters that are lvl 20
/signed
You'll have to ask people who invented/are using Ursanway
/signed
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Killy D
Hehe true, Ursan is was to overpowered.
But still, hero's shoud not be account based. Would make my life hell. ¬.¬
But still, hero's shoud not be account based. Would make my life hell. ¬.¬
Whisper Evenstar
/signed on the following conditions
1) you have an option to indicate which character has your "master set' of heroes
2) other characters on your account should have the option to use the runes and weapons set up on the master set of heroes. Not duplicate, share. Since you can only play 1 character at a time, this shouldn't be a problem
3) in order to get the option to use the weapons/runes on any the 'master hero', you must:
a) have that hero unlocked and leveled up to level 20 on your secondary character in question
b) have completed the campaign that the hero is from on the secondary character
c) must be level 20
The way I see it, this would keep balance from getting skewed during the play of the campaign, but would allow you to avoid inventory management hell for your heroes after you finish and are just playing for fun
1) you have an option to indicate which character has your "master set' of heroes
2) other characters on your account should have the option to use the runes and weapons set up on the master set of heroes. Not duplicate, share. Since you can only play 1 character at a time, this shouldn't be a problem
3) in order to get the option to use the weapons/runes on any the 'master hero', you must:
a) have that hero unlocked and leveled up to level 20 on your secondary character in question
b) have completed the campaign that the hero is from on the secondary character
c) must be level 20
The way I see it, this would keep balance from getting skewed during the play of the campaign, but would allow you to avoid inventory management hell for your heroes after you finish and are just playing for fun
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Elrien Silentfoot
That's how henchies work, though. Heroes are supposed to be more customisable versions of henchies, right?
An argument can be made for this to some degree. If I have a MM necro, I might be annoyed when I find that my necro hero is also MM because that's how I set him up when I was playing as an ele. If the heroes were account based from the start, would you have suddenly thought it was too easy to improve them? Would you have campaigned against account-based heroes? |
Im not that fussed about having runed heroes.
Loviatar
this takes this months award of make it easier mommy.
followed by last months winner why should i have to use the storage to pass an item with uber sale mods to my special best chance salvage chacter and waste that time.
/no way
followed by last months winner why should i have to use the storage to pass an item with uber sale mods to my special best chance salvage chacter and waste that time.
/no way
roflcopter2445
I have my hero's set up differently on different characters, most others probably do to, so no.
/notsigned
/notsigned
MithranArkanere
We already talked about this... not anymore...
Too late for the change... messes the plot and quests, some people have different settings and equipment in in different heroes, etc...
Too late for the change... messes the plot and quests, some people have different settings and equipment in in different heroes, etc...