Ok i have just got Nightfall but have been playing eye of the north for awhile and i moved my Necro to Nightfall and all i hear before everyone mission is how hard it is to get masters on some of the missions like killing the drought in Rilohn Refuge without turning off the water anyway i had a MM and some tank henches and sent them all at the drought then casted pain inverter before he let sandstorm out and killed him in a half a second. Which makes me convinced that this is the best boss killer out there. I was reading up on wiki that to beat this drought you have to winter and blah blah blah all u need is pain inverter
havent been much farther in nightfall yet but so far its been cake for masters
Best Boss killer? I vote Pain Inverter!
Boren Supremecy
Sqube
Maybe [skill]Spoil Victor[/skill]?
Targuil
Two words vs ele bosses: Pain inverter.
Racthoh
Standing in an AoE (especially a boss AoE) so Pain Inverter does more just doesn't seem like the best idea. Okay so the boss is dead, but so is half your party or your monks are struggling to keep the party up. If you have fodder it's okay, but then your minion master has no minions.
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost.
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost.
xDusT II
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Standing in an AoE (especially a boss AoE) so Pain Inverter does more just doesn't seem like the best idea. Okay so the boss is dead, but so is half your party or your monks are struggling to keep the party up. If you have fodder it's okay, but then your minion master has no minions.
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost. Quoted for truth.
You need to measure up when Pain Inverter will be worth the cost of standing in AoE's etc.
Granted it works really well with an MM.
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost. Quoted for truth.
You need to measure up when Pain Inverter will be worth the cost of standing in AoE's etc.
Granted it works really well with an MM.
payne
pends what your fighting really...PI is awesome against eles and stuff but aent against wars yar-de-yar
favourite boss killer ( infact favourite way to kill anything) - suicidal minion bombing!
being really honest actually I am opposed to PI...as with consumables and a whole load of other crap that came out with GW:EN...consumables and PI and other stuff have made hard vanq. that much easier now which isn't a good thing!
PI just rapes through what should have been a tough boss...which before you would have had to get a good stratergy for beating..now all you need is PI stand in AoE and take a powerstone with! ridiculous IMO for something that should have been tough has become that much easier
sorry for going off on one but that is really how i feel!
favourite boss killer ( infact favourite way to kill anything) - suicidal minion bombing!
being really honest actually I am opposed to PI...as with consumables and a whole load of other crap that came out with GW:EN...consumables and PI and other stuff have made hard vanq. that much easier now which isn't a good thing!
PI just rapes through what should have been a tough boss...which before you would have had to get a good stratergy for beating..now all you need is PI stand in AoE and take a powerstone with! ridiculous IMO for something that should have been tough has become that much easier
sorry for going off on one but that is really how i feel!
Zahr Dalsk
I vote Spirit's Strength for boss-killer for any boss.
chowmein69
spoil victor .
the_jos
When you use a team with a MM, pain inverter will be a very good skill.
Same with foes with AoE skill you can't really avoid (like the giants and dragons in proph. desert).
In most other situations, Spoil Victor.
Same with foes with AoE skill you can't really avoid (like the giants and dragons in proph. desert).
In most other situations, Spoil Victor.
Shadow Own
why not take em both 
OS T
I Vote Pain inverter too^^
Omniclasm
I vote [skill]Jagged Strike[/skill]
Solus Spartan
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Standing in an AoE (especially a boss AoE) so Pain Inverter does more just doesn't seem like the best idea. Okay so the boss is dead, but so is half your party or your monks are struggling to keep the party up. If you have fodder it's okay, but then your minion master has no minions.
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost. His example given was of a mission where killing the boss is the main objective, and once the boss is defeated, the other enemies are soon as well.
When the boss is dead, it's fairly easy to deal with the rest.
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost. His example given was of a mission where killing the boss is the main objective, and once the boss is defeated, the other enemies are soon as well.
When the boss is dead, it's fairly easy to deal with the rest.
zling
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I vote [skill]Jagged Strike[/skill]
[sarcasm] nice one [/sarcasm]
so anyway, Spoil Victor is certainly the best boss killer, works on everyone, even monks... Spiteful can be awsome against bosses stuck in large mobs, Spiteful the non bosses and let them kill the boss
so anyway, Spoil Victor is certainly the best boss killer, works on everyone, even monks... Spiteful can be awsome against bosses stuck in large mobs, Spiteful the non bosses and let them kill the boss
A Leprechaun
Warrior face-rape. Or spoil victor, whichever.
~A Leprechaun~
~A Leprechaun~
Spellforge
OK - so this is changing the rules a bit (As i'm going to to use 2 skills)
Dragon Slash + Dwarven Headbutt
You can basically keep a boss nailed to the floor - never getting up. This works with a greater variety of bosses than PI (all bosses really except those of a species that cannot be knocked down) and does not require your team/allies to loose health and is effective with low ranks in Deldimor
Dragon Slash + Dwarven Headbutt
You can basically keep a boss nailed to the floor - never getting up. This works with a greater variety of bosses than PI (all bosses really except those of a species that cannot be knocked down) and does not require your team/allies to loose health and is effective with low ranks in Deldimor
MBP
I think the same thing could be said about [skill]broad head arrow[/skill]. Even though it won't outright kill the boss it will keep them dazed forever if used properly whereas dslash/brawling headbutt keeps them on the floor forever.
tuna-fish_sushi
Wastrels worry ftw 1.5second duration full spammable ^^
Marty Silverblade
Hmmm, Brawling Headbutt/Steelfang Slash/"For Great Justice!"
Why allow half your teams health to be lost to kill them with Pain Inverter, when you can just keep it on it's ass, not letting it get off as much as a Reversal of Fortune.
Why allow half your teams health to be lost to kill them with Pain Inverter, when you can just keep it on it's ass, not letting it get off as much as a Reversal of Fortune.
Div
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Why allow half your teams health to be lost to kill them with Pain Inverter, when you can just keep it on it's ass, not letting it get off as much as a Reversal of Fortune.
Because bad players like big numbers. If there was a rune that was -150 health and +3 to attribute, they'd still run it. Maybe 2 of them.
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Standing in an AoE (especially a boss AoE) so Pain Inverter does more just doesn't seem like the best idea. Okay so the boss is dead, but so is half your party or your monks are struggling to keep the party up. If you have fodder it's okay, but then your minion master has no minions.
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost. Molotov Rocktail is who I can think of. Maybe That SF ele boss in EotN
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost. Molotov Rocktail is who I can think of. Maybe That SF ele boss in EotN
~ Dan ~
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Standing in an AoE (especially a boss AoE) so Pain Inverter does more just doesn't seem like the best idea. Okay so the boss is dead, but so is half your party or your monks are struggling to keep the party up. If you have fodder it's okay, but then your minion master has no minions.
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost. True, but since when do H/H not stand in AoE? Nothing to lose really
I think the skill is pretty good don't get me wrong, but sometimes what players will do to get big numbers comes at cost. True, but since when do H/H not stand in AoE? Nothing to lose really
OI-812
[skill]Wastrel's Worry[/skill]
Meh, j/k. It's conditional, largely - depends on the type of boss.
Meh, j/k. It's conditional, largely - depends on the type of boss.
Splitisoda
Whats pain Inverter? Is it a necro skill?
Oh and since i dont know it yet SV is, gg shiro at gate of madness
Oh and since i dont know it yet SV is, gg shiro at gate of madness
blue.rellik
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Originally Posted by Splitisoda
Whats pain Inverter? Is it a necro skill?
Oh and since i dont know it yet SV is, gg shiro at gate of madness
Pain Inverter
Oh and since i dont know it yet SV is, gg shiro at gate of madness
Pain Inverter
Orinn
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Originally Posted by Splitisoda
Whats pain Inverter? Is it a necro skill?
Oh and since i dont know it yet SV is, gg shiro at gate of madness
You should see what Pain inverter and a few hero/hench warriors do when impossible odds is up.
Yes, Pain inverter works well against the scariest bosses. Any boss that does big AoE, PI just slaughters them.
Oh and since i dont know it yet SV is, gg shiro at gate of madness
You should see what Pain inverter and a few hero/hench warriors do when impossible odds is up.Yes, Pain inverter works well against the scariest bosses. Any boss that does big AoE, PI just slaughters them.
Xylia
Unfortunately, there's not a "best boss killer", it depends on what kind of boss you're fighting. If a boss does massive AoE damage, or lots of damage quickly, Pain Inverter is one of the best ways to drop them. If not, spoil victor is probably better. If the boss is a healer, pain inverter is useless and spoil victor is only useful if they have something besides themselves to heal. In this case, I like [skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill] + [skill]Backfire[/skill], or a good interrupt build of any type.
Solus Spartan
Pain Inventer kills bosses easily the fastest, though conditional, it's simply the best boss killer out there, hands down.
Lourens
[skill]empathy[/skill] also nice since it does 58 armor ignoring damage on domi 16 everytime the boss attacks
Magikarp
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Because bad players like big numbers. If there was a rune that was -150 health and +3 to attribute, they'd still run it. Maybe 2 of them.
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Best Boss Killer?
[skill]Ursan Blessing[/skill]
[skill]Ursan Blessing[/skill]
batno_mercy
Best boss killer?
Lemme see... For non-healer non-AoE bosses it's [skill]Spoil Victor[/skill]
for healer bosses it's a couple of two skills, first one is more effective [skill]Backfire[/skill] [skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill]
for AoE bosses (they dont rely on too much spellcasting) it is and will always be from now on Pain Inverter.
These are the 3 categories of bosses. All boss-like foes go in too (Shiro\Lich - AoE, Pain inverter The Hunger/Roscale - Single attack, Spoil Victor. U can think of healer bosses urself, enough in game).
If some bosses are E/Mo for example, chose what they have most in (thinking of hierophant Burntsoul = more nuke, less heal)
Lemme see... For non-healer non-AoE bosses it's [skill]Spoil Victor[/skill]
for healer bosses it's a couple of two skills, first one is more effective [skill]Backfire[/skill] [skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill]
for AoE bosses (they dont rely on too much spellcasting) it is and will always be from now on Pain Inverter.
These are the 3 categories of bosses. All boss-like foes go in too (Shiro\Lich - AoE, Pain inverter The Hunger/Roscale - Single attack, Spoil Victor. U can think of healer bosses urself, enough in game).
If some bosses are E/Mo for example, chose what they have most in (thinking of hierophant Burntsoul = more nuke, less heal)
great sir s
with many a necros and mesmers
backfire,ss,sv,empathy,pain inverter = at the very least 200+ damamge with every action of the boss
backfire,ss,sv,empathy,pain inverter = at the very least 200+ damamge with every action of the boss
Osi Ri S
to me it looks like your scenario is a rare one. Pain Inverter wont work like that in every situation. In that situation you had ideal conditions for pain inverter to be most efficient.
Dervish Kid
S.V. and P.I.