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rivanwarder

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

E/Me

16 Nov 2007 at 23:55 - 1

Anyways i just bought prophecies off the PlayNC site and was just owndering if anyone could answer a few questions.

1.) If i make a PvP char straight away am i gimping myself in some way? other than a lack of knowledge about gameplay and such

Thats it really I have made both a PvP char and RP char, but i really only like to PvP no PvE. The reason i ask is because i am not new to this style of gameplay i have many other MMO's under my belt.

Thanks in advance to anyone who replies

xReLx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Mo/

16 Nov 2007 at 23:57 - 2

Go PvE first.

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Idiot Savants [iQ]

R/

17 Nov 2007 at 00:11 - 3

Unless you spend the money to unlock skills for yourself from the get-go, you're really going to need to play some PvE to learn the game and to unlock skills.

Tal Deathshade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/A

17 Nov 2007 at 00:15 - 4

Go play some PvE first. You can get a few skills unlocked at least and learn about the play style before going against other players.

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

17 Nov 2007 at 00:18 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivanwarder

i have many other MMO's under my belt.

This isn't an MMO, and you'll be happier if you don't look at it as one. It bears a closer resemblance to Dungeon Siege, Diablo, and other action RPG's. The towns are just 3d multiplayer lobbies.

As to your question, you'll either need to play some PvE (which I recommend anyway, as GW's skill system is rather different from other games) or try the Zaishen challenges as a PvP intro. The problem is that you're going to be seriously short on skills if you jump straight into PvP. One option, if you don't mind spending more money, would be to buy an unlock pack. You can earn them through PvP achievements, but my understanding is that it's a bit of an uphill battle.

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

17 Nov 2007 at 00:25 - 6

do some pve first cause if you start pvp you wont hav so much skills to use

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

17 Nov 2007 at 00:44 - 7

What professions are you playing rivanwarder?

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

17 Nov 2007 at 00:54 - 8

IMO if you are just truely interested in PVP then go with PVP. You get some standard skills unlocked during creation....then as you earn Balthazar faction points you can unlock further skills.

If you do PVE then switch to PVP you will have a lot of the game mechanics to "unlearn"

look here for some better info

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Player_versus_player

rivanwarder

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

E/Me

17 Nov 2007 at 01:47 - 9

I am an elementalist if that makes a difference, and seeing as the general vibe i get is to do the campaign. How many hours should it take to reach 20 i know it's not long but an estimate would be aprreciated

I can probably play 20 hours a week on this game

I Angra I

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Napa, CA

Inadequately Equipped [GeAr]

R/N

17 Nov 2007 at 01:51 - 10

The only downside to starting a PvP character first is that you won't have access to very many skills. Of course, through PvPing, you'll be able to unlock more and more as you go along.

If PvP is your main reason for buying the game, then focus on PvP. PvE is good for learning the basics, the mechanics of the game and what various skills and such do, but beyond that, it won't teach you much about PvP.

Probably the best thing to do is to play through PvE, while continually PvPing as often as possible at the same time.

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

17 Nov 2007 at 02:20 - 11

Ya basically just pve for basic skills, then do all out pvp!! That is what I did.

BohemianKeith

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

17 Nov 2007 at 03:06 - 12

Definitely start in pve. I suggest you search for some random arena pvp builds and work towards unlocking the necessary skills to try them out and get a good sense of low lvl pvp. Then as your RAing use your points to unlock more skills that you intend to use for other builds you find untill you have a good sense of what you need. Personally, spend your batlh points towards skills and a sup vigor rune then towards item modifiers , as using sup attribute runes is a bad idea most of the time in my opinion.

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

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bumble bee

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17 Nov 2007 at 03:11 - 13

Ouch! why did you buy prophecies! you should have buy EO:TN and get prophecies at half price..... but thats just my opinion,

I recommend you start some pve, get to know how the skills work, with many mmo under your belt, you should know it very soon and then go to pvp. imho.

believe me its a tough job getting a group in pvp ... people are mostly very prejudice there even if you have many mmo under your belt. words like noob and retard will fly at you unexpectedly.

Ejjman1

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/Mo

17 Nov 2007 at 03:12 - 14

I think if you look at some guides, u can do fine in PvP. U'll learn to like PvE tho, its fun

semantic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

17 Nov 2007 at 03:34 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivanwarder

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i have many other MMO's under my belt.

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you must unlearn what you have learned..

different from standard MMO combat GW is..

You've got four slots to play with, so here's a suggestion. Reserve one for PvP and one for trying out and recycling PVE toons. Use the other two for permanent PVE chars to use for unlocking skills and just enjoying the game.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

17 Nov 2007 at 03:34 - 16

Do PvE first to learn the workings of the game, then move to PvP when you get bored of PvE.

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

17 Nov 2007 at 03:44 - 17

Quote:

I am an elementalist if that makes a difference, and seeing as the general vibe i get is to do the campaign.

The Elementalist is a great start for a new player. It's one of the more straightforward professions to pick up and learn the ropes with. Play through the PvE campaign and you'll find yourself at level 20 in no time if you do all the quests and don't run past any missions.

Also, once a PvE character reaches level 20 they can take part in the PvP section of the game as well. Once you reach a port, you can hop on a ship to the Battle Isles where all the major PvP arenas are.

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

17 Nov 2007 at 03:51 - 18

PS:

Incase you didn't know about the title yet.

don't die!! or you will not get the survivor title. never ever! unless you don't die or anet change their mind lol. just a reminder.

rivanwarder

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

E/Me

17 Nov 2007 at 04:53 - 19

Thanks to all who have replied so far, one last thing i would like to ask.
So if i had a build in mind and had a reasonable idea of how to play the game would it not be a bad idea to make a PvP char right off? I mean I am ONLY interested in the PvP aspect of this game, if i wanted PvE i would play Lotro or WoW.

So with this faction rep grinding for skills is that an alright way to gain them?

Thanks once again to anyone who replies

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

17 Nov 2007 at 04:56 - 20

IN MY HUMBLE OPINION

you've bought the wrong pack imho, should have buy the PVP pack if you are only interested in PvP, which give you instant pvp play with all the skills unlocked, now you can't go to HA without having the map on your map, and also skill-less.

you could have bought the pvp pack, go to wiki, read up some build, test your skills at Random arena and go on from there imho. they also have the pvp kit now, read for more info here.

I Angra I

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Napa, CA

Inadequately Equipped [GeAr]

R/N

17 Nov 2007 at 05:05 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivanwarder

Thanks to all who have replied so far, one last thing i would like to ask.
So if i had a build in mind and had a reasonable idea of how to play the game would it not be a bad idea to make a PvP char right off? I mean I am ONLY interested in the PvP aspect of this game, if i wanted PvE i would play Lotro or WoW.

So with this faction rep grinding for skills is that an alright way to gain them?

Thanks once again to anyone who replies

It's definitely a good idea to get your foot in PvP now if that's what you're most interested in. Starting off in Random Arenas with said build that you have in mind is a good place to start. Getting wins in RA will also then give you faction that you can use to unlock more skills for your PvP characters. If you feel you have a reasonable grasp of the game and how it works, PvE isn't really as necessary then. Like most people have been saying, if your only interest is PvP, PvE will only serve as a very basic training ground for PvP.

As for me, the only reason I PvE anymore is to have good looking characters for PvP. ;D

weelittlebug

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

17 Nov 2007 at 05:12 - 22

hay man, if your just starting can I ask you something? I have wanted to try out guild wars for a long time! but I dont wanna just go and buy it so Ive been looking for a guest trial activation key from someone who got one from buying the game, and if you still have them, can u sent one to [email protected] please? I might join but Im not sure I wanna spend my money on it if I wont like it so I wanna try it out, so if you can, than ty a TON!!!

ps, anyone else who reads this and has an activation key can you send it too me too? Ill choose one out of however many I get (if I do) and than tell everyone else that they can keep theirs, TY!!! you might end up getting guild wars a new player!
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pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

17 Nov 2007 at 05:16 - 23

sorry its closed.

erm, don't know... I don't use file planet. I saw the ad up couple of days ago, thought i point you to it, seem GW is very popular since the keys are gone so fast.

weelittlebug

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

17 Nov 2007 at 05:17 - 24

ok, but dont u have to pay for fileplanet anyways?

ok well Ill see if i get an E-mail sometime

cyberjanet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

The Netherlands

Rich Mahogany

N/

17 Nov 2007 at 05:28 - 25

The only PvP I do is Zaishen Challenges and the occasional AB so I'm not the expert. In my understanding, PvE doesn't just unlock skills but equipment as well, runes and weapon upgrades. Also heroes, but that's unlikely to interest you unless hero battles seem fun.

So give the PvE game to your girlfriend and get yourself the PvP pack. I know it's bad workman who blames his tools, but a good workman needs tools too!

You could grind the skills and equipment if you had a friend who would support you through the first stages of PvP. You have to unlock Random Arenas by winning a certain number of Zaishen I think, against a variety of opponent teams, and then you unlock Team Arenas by winning a certain number of Random Arenas. A PvPer will be able to give you the exact details.

You can only get 2,000 faction a day from Zaishen, so until you unlock the other areas it will be slow. If you want a non-hostile person to go zaishening with I'd be happy to take you along. The introductory quests are easy enough to do by yourself and will earn you some faction too.

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

17 Nov 2007 at 16:03 - 26

Once you've learned the ropes, get yourself some cheap PvP unlock packs in the online store.

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

17 Nov 2007 at 18:42 - 27

Go to the Zaishen Challenge, and earn exactly 2k Balthazar Faction from there everyday. That's the limit on THAT AREA per day. No other area has a limit to how much you can make.

Ignore pumkin pie's mention of the survivor title. Not only could a new player not achieve it, but it shouldn't be important to you anyway.

cyberjanet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

The Netherlands

Rich Mahogany

N/

19 Nov 2007 at 13:57 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by creelie

Once you've learned the ropes, get yourself some cheap PvP unlock packs in the online store.

Oh yes, they are currently VERY cheap!

Saphrium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Granite Citadel

Post Searing Ascalonian Merchants

N/Me

19 Nov 2007 at 15:37 - 29

Practice in zaishen is what i would suggest also, try not to "stay with what works", try new skill sets, change your role in the team, explore the skill synergy . PvP's learning curve is steep, but I am glad zaishen is around.