Dye idea to dye for!

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

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I was thinking how worthless some dyes are compared to the rarer kinds and i was trying to think of a way to increase the value of those cheaper colours without increasing the rarity or altering the trader price upfront.

My idea is, make all dyes drop as an "Unidentified vial of dye".

These Unidentified vials could be sold to the trader for a price calculated from the average price of all the dyes and based upon the chance of having a particular dye, so you might end up getting a couple of hundred gold for an unidentified vial at the trader.

You could however identify your vial for 'free' at the trader but you would run the risk of it just turning out to be a yellow, orange or brown as usual.

If you did choose to sell it as unidentified, either to a player or the trader, you would risk losing a precious black or white, but lets face it, how often does that happen?

Also, unidentified vials could become another neat trading commodity between the players.

But wait! Won't the prices of all the dyes INCREASE at the trader for people wanting to buy them?
Probably only an insignificant amount, depending on how the idea was implemented.
For example, the NPC trader could identify the dye himself once he bought it from you and return it to it's rightful pool, thus keeping the dye price stable.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Geez... a bit complicated would be that, won't it?

The problem about dyes is fixed by making their lower sell price half the higher one: 50g. Just like any other trader item.

If you make them unidentified, most people will always identify them, since one black is always better than 500 oranges.

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

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A/W

So, your character becomes color blind and can't see that there is a brown color inside of the vial?

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin
So, your character becomes color blind and can't see that there is a brown color inside of the vial?
No. The Vial is dusty!

You may say then rub it clean.

Your character believes in superstitions and thus thinks if he runs it a Genie named Alladdin and its Servent jasmine will pwn it >.>


Anyones /not signed,

i'm not paying some guy to identify crap for me, just to find out I just bought a 500 dollar dye identification... and got a 30 cent worth yellow dye >.>.
Not even the good yellow dye, but the bootleg one some guys in the alley sell you in Budbek Byway

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

This idea is... fail.

It's not broken, don't "fix" it.

greenreaper3

greenreaper3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

ign: Cytherea of Athens

We Made Mallyx Tap [Out]

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/NOTsigned

seems like a totally wasted use of anets time...

and no this isnt a "dye idea to die for"
it would be like a useless death

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

dye system seems fine to me. Why would we fix something that isn't broken? WHy would I want to raise the price of cheaper dyes when I can actually afford them in game atm?

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
i'm not paying some guy to identify crap for me...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
You could however identify your vial for 'free' at the trader....
I thought the idea through quite thoroughly, it's much easier to read someones post

Crowell The Fallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Know Your Enemy [PMS]

Mo/

Anet have a million other things to fix. And I don't think it really needs to be changed.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

With all the skill-balancing, and the near-brokenness of the ladder atm, and with Wintersday on the horizon, I would hope the last of their concerns is the current dye market.

/notsigned

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
This idea is... fail.

It's not broken, don't "fix" it.
if only A-net understood this....

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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tome of dye people, tome of dye!

3 types of tome, one for colors, one for textures one for "bling" I just learn that word bling, for making your armor bling!

how does the tome works, simple, works like the cape design interface

how can tome of textures make guild wars slightly more interesting. it lets you import your own textures yes, your own texture! and off course it comes with a set of pre-made textures by The wonderful concept artists.

how does bling works ? bling makes your armor *bling*, create sparkles with normal bling tome, create special animation with elite bling tome!

tome of colors, color wheel with a slider.

Eragon of Aleria

Eragon of Aleria

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

None other than OHIO

The Pig Pen

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This idea of unidentified dyes is quite interesting. Come on guys, dont put Tactical's ideas down, hes only trying to inspire. If you had a thread would you want only the bad posts?? Lets show some empathy here.

Wonderful plan dude, this would sort of convert the dye market into the rune type market, thus creating mystery and chance; always fun things to toy with! You could make it rich or go down the hole.

This innovation would encourage players to think about their marketing instead of taking advantage of the status qou. Isn't that what honest gameplay is about? I say yes because we need some intelligent minds to shape the complex and exciting environment of Guild Wars.

The way I see it, Tactical has brought up a great idea; so lets give him a little help, change is always possible.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon of Aleria
This innovation would encourage players to think about their marketing instead of taking advantage of the status qou. Isn't that what honest gameplay is about? I say yes because we need some intelligent minds to shape the complex and exciting environment of Guild Wars.
Honest gameplay is where this fails...I'd like to think that most of the players online are honest, but that would just generally be naive.

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

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Maybe the stuff that comes inside the vials are an essence of some sort, and to be used as dye the Trader needs to add a mixture of some sort into it, which would change / create its color?

Better than the dusty vial idea...haha.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

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the only way i want to fix dye system is when ever i play a black dye drops at least once a day for me and only me.


other wise I thinks its fine how it is.

~the rat~