Best way to raise Norn faction?
HuntressNexi
Just started work in GW:EN today, and thus far after a few quests (and completing northen alliances) i have around 6000, now to be able to purchase my Norn armor i need 16,000 - what would be the quickest way to reach it? 
natural sugar
Look around before posting, there are several topics asking the same thing.
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10220303
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10215952
And you need 26k faction to buy armor, not 16k.
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10220303
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10215952
And you need 26k faction to buy armor, not 16k.
Cobalt
A fun way once you have done the Norn primaries and then obtained Ursan Blessing from a secondary quest is to get in a all Urasn HM rep farming team out of Olafstead in Varajar Falls
theblackmage
You have 6k norn? If you haven't already turned a hero's handbook in, complete EotN then give it to the norn, and you then you'll have the rep needed for your armor.
Mavrik
kill everything in verijar fells (I'm probably spelling it wrong) I was getting 3-4k worth in rep points a trip.
Vinraith
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Originally Posted by theblackmage
You have 6k norn? If you haven't already turned a hero's handbook in, complete EotN then give it to the norn, and you then you'll have the rep needed for your armor.
Ding. Ding. Ding.
It's no longer necessary to farm to get to rank 5 for armor, period. Just do a few quests, play through the primary story missions, turn in your handbook, and you're done. Farming is for people that want to max the title (and even then HM handbook "abuse" is your best option.)
It's no longer necessary to farm to get to rank 5 for armor, period. Just do a few quests, play through the primary story missions, turn in your handbook, and you're done. Farming is for people that want to max the title (and even then HM handbook "abuse" is your best option.)
Painbringer
Just following the story line and doing the dungeons in Norn area netted me over 16K
Guildmaster Cain
Just like any other EotN rep title: Books
VinnyRidira
You can fill a normal hero book in about 5 hours : it is worth 20000. You can only do normal hero books up to level 8, then you must do HM.
clarke
I also use books, still quite a bit of grinding to do and repeating of the same missions, works tho
fusion101
i started GWEN with my warrier yesterday so that i can get the norn armor. if you have hardmode unlocked just start vanquishing areas, it soon adds up. i have done much or even played that much on my warrier in GWEN and i have done the curse of the nornbear quest, vanquished two areas and hve 8k norn points.
It might not be the quickest way but it is fairly enjoyable and you get gold
It might not be the quickest way but it is fairly enjoyable and you get gold
Zebideedee
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Originally Posted by Mavrik
kill everything in verijar fells (I'm probably spelling it wrong) I was getting 3-4k worth in rep points a trip.
Thats what I done, at the area with the frozen lake (dunno names of places offhand yet), I killed everything there a few times.
I decided to go for Asuran armour though, got to lvl 5 in about a week, shouldn't take long if you go on lengthy killing sprees Just remember to talk to one of the Norn guys before you begin, I went on a rampage a few times and after about 30-40 kills I realised I hadn't spoken to a Norn/Asuran to start the bonus 
I decided to go for Asuran armour though, got to lvl 5 in about a week, shouldn't take long if you go on lengthy killing sprees
Just remember to talk to one of the Norn guys before you begin, I went on a rampage a few times and after about 30-40 kills I realised I hadn't spoken to a Norn/Asuran to start the bonus 
Nathan of Elona
One word: Books
They're your best bet.
They're your best bet.
Rob-Zombie
Filling a HM handbook cost me 4 hours and get 30000 points + 2700 random points for completing the quests.
Most pri. quests can be done alone with heroes and hench.
2 pri. quests must be done with 2 man or even better with more.
Good luck...
Most pri. quests can be done alone with heroes and hench.
2 pri. quests must be done with 2 man or even better with more.
Good luck...
macke
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob-Zombie
Filling a HM handbook cost me 4 hours and get 30000 points + 2700 random points for completing the quests.
Most pri. quests can be done alone with heroes and hench.
2 pri. quests must be done with 2 man or even better with more.
Good luck...
can u post some guide how to do it in 4 hours ?!
Most pri. quests can be done alone with heroes and hench.
2 pri. quests must be done with 2 man or even better with more.
Good luck...
can u post some guide how to do it in 4 hours ?!
blue.rellik
Work towards the Eye of the North title track and you'll get most of it done. Vanquishing does add plenty of rep points
ump
I only partially fill hard-mode hero handbooks with exclusively hero/hench.
Free
The Beginning of the End
The Missing Vanguard
Northern Allies
The Knowledgeable Asura
Against the Destroyers
Really easy
Against the Char
Curse of the Nornbear
A Time for Heroes
Moderately easy (meaning there may be a few team wipes)
Assault on the Stronghold
Genius Operated Living Enchanted Manifestation
The other ones take more time and effort. However, turning in this partial book results in 4.5k rep and 900 gold per run with minimal time and effort. Vanquishing an area the first time is also useful if you are going for the other title otherwise the rewards are not usually worth it the second time around.
Free
The Beginning of the End
The Missing Vanguard
Northern Allies
The Knowledgeable Asura
Against the Destroyers
Really easy
Against the Char
Curse of the Nornbear
A Time for Heroes
Moderately easy (meaning there may be a few team wipes)
Assault on the Stronghold
Genius Operated Living Enchanted Manifestation
The other ones take more time and effort. However, turning in this partial book results in 4.5k rep and 900 gold per run with minimal time and effort. Vanquishing an area the first time is also useful if you are going for the other title otherwise the rewards are not usually worth it the second time around.
Xylia
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Originally Posted by Rob-Zombie
2 pri. quests must be done with 2 man or even better with more.
All of the primary quests can be done in HM with Heroes and Henchmen with a reasonable amount of effort. I didn't time it, so I don't know how long it took - definitely longer than 4 hours, but probably not more than 6. The hardest ones (for me) were: Destruction's Depths, Blood washes Blood, Assault on the Stronghold. It may be economical to skip these 3 quests and do the others, and turn in the handbook, similar to what ump was suggesting above.
The missions are easier than vanquishing or most of the dungeons, in my opinion, and definitely faster.
All of the primary quests can be done in HM with Heroes and Henchmen with a reasonable amount of effort. I didn't time it, so I don't know how long it took - definitely longer than 4 hours, but probably not more than 6. The hardest ones (for me) were: Destruction's Depths, Blood washes Blood, Assault on the Stronghold. It may be economical to skip these 3 quests and do the others, and turn in the handbook, similar to what ump was suggesting above.
The missions are easier than vanquishing or most of the dungeons, in my opinion, and definitely faster.
greywolf31
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Originally Posted by ump
Free
The Beginning of the End
The Missing Vanguard
Northern Allies
The Knowledgeable Asura
Against the Destroyers
Really easy
Against the Char
Curse of the Nornbear
A Time for Heroes
Moderately easy (meaning there may be a few team wipes)
Assault on the Stronghold
Genius Operated Living Enchanted Manifestation
The other ones take more time and effort. However, turning in this partial book results in 4.5k rep and 900 gold per run with minimal time and effort. Vanquishing an area the first time is also useful if you are going for the other title otherwise the rewards are not usually worth it the second time around. Another easy one is Finding the Bloodstone... Start Point: Gadd's Encampment.
=)
xx derv of doom xx
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Originally Posted by theblackmage
You have 6k norn? If you haven't already turned a hero's handbook in, complete EotN then give it to the norn, and you then you'll have the rep needed for your armor.
I beat Eotn with my dervish and i currently only have 5 of the required 16 in the heroes handbook, whats wrong? I beat the entire game too. HELP
I beat Eotn with my dervish and i currently only have 5 of the required 16 in the heroes handbook, whats wrong? I beat the entire game too. HELP
mage767
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Originally Posted by xx derv of doom xx
Handbook at Wiki
Picture of quest locations
gerg-nad
1. Go to Oelfestead
2. Bring up your Player Menu, P-key
3. Look at all the Ursan Norn Farming groups and join one (Hard Mode)
4. Make sure the group has the "A Path to Revolations" (Cipher quest) active.
5. Be an Ursan or a Monk (monks will get you in immediately)
6. Follow the experiance person and don't over aggro and know where the pop-ups are. There is an optimum path to follow.
7. Hit all the shrines and normal bosses (optimum path)
8. Wait for the Banner that you have killed 250 to flash (not the counter)
9. Go in and kill all Ciphers
10. If you have not gotten the last shrine go get the last shrine.
Advantages
1. One build will work on you
2. No messing with books, order of books, and turning in books
3. No messing with Heros and builds or re-skilling for each mission
Overall time for a run 30-45 minutes for anywhere from 5000-9000 Norn points depending on bonuses. Consumables speed up the time, but are not necessary. Can use hero monks in a pinch, but human monks are better. Rince and repeat as necessary.
2. Bring up your Player Menu, P-key
3. Look at all the Ursan Norn Farming groups and join one (Hard Mode)
4. Make sure the group has the "A Path to Revolations" (Cipher quest) active.
5. Be an Ursan or a Monk (monks will get you in immediately)
6. Follow the experiance person and don't over aggro and know where the pop-ups are. There is an optimum path to follow.
7. Hit all the shrines and normal bosses (optimum path)
8. Wait for the Banner that you have killed 250 to flash (not the counter)
9. Go in and kill all Ciphers
10. If you have not gotten the last shrine go get the last shrine.
Advantages
1. One build will work on you
2. No messing with books, order of books, and turning in books
3. No messing with Heros and builds or re-skilling for each mission
Overall time for a run 30-45 minutes for anywhere from 5000-9000 Norn points depending on bonuses. Consumables speed up the time, but are not necessary. Can use hero monks in a pinch, but human monks are better. Rince and repeat as necessary.
greywolf31
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Originally Posted by gerg-nad
There is an optimum path to follow.
Is this posted somewhere?
That way someone can work it out slowly with H&Hs to learn it bfore possibly embarrassing themselves or worse...
Think of the Monks who won't get pissed off.
THX
That way someone can work it out slowly with H&Hs to learn it bfore possibly embarrassing themselves or worse...
Think of the Monks who won't get pissed off.
THX
gerg-nad
Crude map, but best I could do quickly.
greywolf31
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Originally Posted by gerg-nad
Crude map, but best I could do quickly.
Thanks, that should be helpful for a lot of ppl.
All they need is a general idea of direction and then learn the pop-ups so as not to be a hazard to the team as a whole.
GJ!
-T
All they need is a general idea of direction and then learn the pop-ups so as not to be a hazard to the team as a whole.
GJ!
-T
Productivity
What are the generally requested monk builds (just at a general level, not individual skills)?
gerg-nad
HB monk or LOD and generally both with Arcane Mimicry.
The below is one version of HB. There are a number of options, but I do like having a Hex Removal skill to help folks through the water hexes.
[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill][skill]Ethereal Light[/skill][skill]heal party[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]rebirth[/skill]
Other Single healing or skills that are options for above are
Remove Hex
Cure Hex
Orison of Healing
Signet of Rejuvination
Vigorous Spirit
Also another hard rez such as
Rez Chant
or if you go rit secondary
Flesh of my Flesh
Death Pac Signet
Arcaine Mimicry can also be put on if the other monk has LOD to enable two elites for a time.
[skill]arcane mimicry[/skill]
The below is one version of HB. There are a number of options, but I do like having a Hex Removal skill to help folks through the water hexes.
[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill][skill]Ethereal Light[/skill][skill]heal party[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]rebirth[/skill]
Other Single healing or skills that are options for above are
Remove Hex
Cure Hex
Orison of Healing
Signet of Rejuvination
Vigorous Spirit
Also another hard rez such as
Rez Chant
or if you go rit secondary
Flesh of my Flesh
Death Pac Signet
Arcaine Mimicry can also be put on if the other monk has LOD to enable two elites for a time.
[skill]arcane mimicry[/skill]
SpotJorge
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Originally Posted by Rob-Zombie
Filling a HM handbook cost me 4 hours and get 30000 points + 2700 random points for completing the quests.
Most pri. quests can be done alone with heroes and hench.
2 pri. quests must be done with 2 man or even better with more.
Good luck...
wow where did you bought the kawasaki? some dungeons need about 1.30 hours to be done so for do it in 4 hours .... your a gw god or a good storyteller
Most pri. quests can be done alone with heroes and hench.
2 pri. quests must be done with 2 man or even better with more.
Good luck...
wow where did you bought the kawasaki? some dungeons need about 1.30 hours to be done so for do it in 4 hours .... your a gw god or a good storyteller
greywolf31
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Originally Posted by SpotJorge
wow where did you bought the kawasaki? some dungeons need about 1.30 hours to be done so for do it in 4 hours .... your a gw god or a good storyteller
I think the poster means Hero Handbooks, not, Dungeon Guides.
The Kawasaki might help but then you would miss some of the nooks needed for Cartographer...
I think the poster means Hero Handbooks, not, Dungeon Guides.The Kawasaki might help but then you would miss some of the nooks needed for Cartographer...
SpotJorge
Quote:
Originally Posted by greywolf31
I think the poster means Hero Handbooks, not, Dungeon Guides.
The Kawasaki might help but then you would miss some of the nooks needed for Cartographer...
hero handbook in HM for 30000 points are 16 quests/dungeons (pages) completed dont think noone can complete the 16 quests in 4 hours
The Kawasaki might help but then you would miss some of the nooks needed for Cartographer...
hero handbook in HM for 30000 points are 16 quests/dungeons (pages) completed dont think noone can complete the 16 quests in 4 hours
The Way Out
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Originally Posted by SpotJorge
hero handbook in HM for 30000 points are 16 quests/dungeons (pages) completed dont think noone can complete the 16 quests in 4 hours
I get do it in about seven hours. Four hours would be possible if I burned consums, no breaks, and all human party it.
I get do it in about seven hours. Four hours would be possible if I burned consums, no breaks, and all human party it.
- Tain -
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10245305
^Thread, in this sub-forum, labeled "Guide: Using HM Books - Fastest way to max rep"
HM books done in as little as 2.5 hours, I typically take 3.5 with full h/h group.
^Thread, in this sub-forum, labeled "Guide: Using HM Books - Fastest way to max rep"
HM books done in as little as 2.5 hours, I typically take 3.5 with full h/h group.
cellardweller
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Originally Posted by SpotJorge
hero handbook in HM for 30000 points are 16 quests/dungeons (pages) completed dont think noone can complete the 16 quests in 4 hours
There are only 11 quests to complete and its easily doable in 2.5-4 hrs with H/H.
There are only 11 quests to complete and its easily doable in 2.5-4 hrs with H/H.
Avatar Exico
doing NM books until r8 Norn Then Norn Farm or Complete HM Books are best bet. Get r8 Norn easy in 1-2 days.
cellardweller
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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico
doing NM books until r8 Norn Then Norn Farm or Complete HM Books are best bet. Get r8 Norn easy in 1-2 days.
Drop a NM Dungeon book in at 79k faction and you can skip straight to r9.
- Tain -
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Originally Posted by cellardweller
Drop a NM Dungeon book in at 79k faction and you can skip straight to r9.
That would be 99k, r9 is 110k
gerg-nad
BTW, if you do Oalfestead run (with quest) in Varajar Fells in HM, do not go back to the Imp Boss, just keep going and keep your Rampage going all the way to the Cipher bosses and you will get nearly 10,000 Norn Points. If you use a Essence of Celerity, just before the Giant Cave, you can usually do this in just over 30 minutes. Its done in HM so Level 8 and books do not matter. Messing with books is for the birds IMO.
So if you do this with a good team you should be able to get nearly 30,000 Norn Point in about 2 hours, with 3 runs. Grind I know, but little time to set up, just get err done.
Monks will have no trouble joining teams. Low level Ursans may, but if you are prepared it will help and be prepared to wait. Also for mele classes with low energy pool, such as War, its best to have a zeolous weapon. Spell casters should not be using range weapons as an Ursan but should use fast mele weapons, swords, axes, etc.
So if you do this with a good team you should be able to get nearly 30,000 Norn Point in about 2 hours, with 3 runs. Grind I know, but little time to set up, just get err done.
Monks will have no trouble joining teams. Low level Ursans may, but if you are prepared it will help and be prepared to wait. Also for mele classes with low energy pool, such as War, its best to have a zeolous weapon. Spell casters should not be using range weapons as an Ursan but should use fast mele weapons, swords, axes, etc.
zerulus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob-Zombie
Filling a HM handbook cost me 4 hours and get 30000 points + 2700 random points for completing the quests.
Most pri. quests can be done alone with heroes and hench.
2 pri. quests must be done with 2 man or even better with more.
Good luck...
Everything in gwen, hm and nm, can be done with just heroes/henchmen.
Most pri. quests can be done alone with heroes and hench.
2 pri. quests must be done with 2 man or even better with more.
Good luck...
Everything in gwen, hm and nm, can be done with just heroes/henchmen.
Andruil
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Originally Posted by - Tain -
That would be 99k, r9 is 110k
I thought NM dungeon was worth 40k filled?
I thought NM dungeon was worth 40k filled?
gerg-nad
To summarize what I discussed.
1. Go to Oelfestead
2. Bring up your Player Menu, P-key
3. Look at all the Ursan Norn Farming groups and join one (Hard Mode)
4. Make sure the group has the "A Path to Revolations" (Cipher quest) active.
5. Be an Ursan or a Monk (monks will get you in immediately)
6. Follow the experiance person and don't over aggro and know where the pop-ups are. There is an optimum path to follow.
7. Hit most of the shrines on your way(optimum path)
8. If you get a rampage carry it to the Cipher bosses. (this often means do not go back for the imp boss).
9. Be sure the Banner that you have killed 250 to flash (not the counter) has popped, before you kill the Ciphers/Aspects.
9. Go in and kill all Ciphers
10. If you have not gotten any of the shrine go get the last shrines and pick up any items that will fit in your inventory.
The HB build I had earlier could be more like the following:
1. Go to Oelfestead
2. Bring up your Player Menu, P-key
3. Look at all the Ursan Norn Farming groups and join one (Hard Mode)
4. Make sure the group has the "A Path to Revolations" (Cipher quest) active.
5. Be an Ursan or a Monk (monks will get you in immediately)
6. Follow the experiance person and don't over aggro and know where the pop-ups are. There is an optimum path to follow.
7. Hit most of the shrines on your way(optimum path)
8. If you get a rampage carry it to the Cipher bosses. (this often means do not go back for the imp boss).
9. Be sure the Banner that you have killed 250 to flash (not the counter) has popped, before you kill the Ciphers/Aspects.
9. Go in and kill all Ciphers
10. If you have not gotten any of the shrine go get the last shrines and pick up any items that will fit in your inventory.
The HB build I had earlier could be more like the following: