Shock skill

Exhonour

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I run a sword conjure build like this for arena:
healing sig
sever artery
gash
dragon slash
FGJ
conjure lightning
shield bash
ressurect sig

and i thouhgt of using shock skill instead of shield bash or other knockdown but i always see axe warriors using shock, is it okay for swords?

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[skill]Shock[/skill] has nothing to due with any war weapon.

Axe wars are most often used in PvP since they can deal better spike damage, but a sword war can use shock just as effectively.

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should i then? the exhaustion can get a bit our of hand :\

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should i then? the exhaustion can get a bit our of hand :\ Only if you let it : /

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since you are adrenaline based - you shouldnt really have problems. but...no S&M?

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Dragon Slash isnt good in PvP, if its blocked the build becomes useless... Your getting exhaustion that you cant handle cus ur using both conjure and shock... 15e + exhaustion isnt good. And then your using sheild bash which uses another 5energy... So many energy skills + exhaustion obviously isnt great. IMHO Drop conjure, drop Sheild Bash and put in frenzy + rush... also If I were you... I'd use an axe... cus generally.. it is better in pvp.

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bring bulls strike. a hugely awesomeness part of shock is the ability to chain it with bulls strike which allows you to beat a monk's face in for 6 seconds without them kiting or casting. plus bulls strike is amazing. so is shock.

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Originally Posted by ax mastery
bring bulls strike. a hugely awesomeness part of shock is the ability to chain it with bulls strike which allows you to beat a monk's face in for 6 seconds without them kiting or casting. plus bulls strike is amazing. so is shock if used correctly. Fixed that for you .

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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
Dragon Slash isnt good in PvP, if its blocked the build becomes useless... Your getting exhaustion that you cant handle cus ur using both conjure and shock... 15e + exhaustion isnt good. And then your using sheild bash which uses another 5energy... So many energy skills + exhaustion obviously isnt great. IMHO Drop conjure, drop Sheild Bash and put in frenzy + rush... also If I were you... I'd use an axe... cus generally.. it is better in pvp. 1. i use it in arenas not ab
2. dragon slash is the only good thing in pvp for swords
3. i have no intention of switching to axes
4. i have 20 energy full so i use shock i still ahve enugh for conjure
5. i dont have a lot of skills using energy, only conjure and shock
6. i said id put in shield bash instead of shock

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Originally Posted by Exhonour
2.crippling slash is the only good thing in pvp for swords Fix'd/10

... 12 chars

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i dont have nightfall

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That doesn't make Dragon Slash magically good in PvP, though.

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Originally Posted by Exhonour
1. i use it in arenas not ab
2. dragon slash is the only good thing in pvp for swords
3. i have no intention of switching to axes
4. i have 20 energy full so i use shock i still ahve enugh for conjure
5. i dont have a lot of skills using energy, only conjure and shock
6. i said id put in shield bash instead of shock 1. Any build works in RA, Ive seen Wars with Fire Storm
2. If you have no intention to switch to axes, dont intend on playing PvP.
3. 20 energy isnt much considering your using exhaustion spells and 10e conjures.
4. Learn to count. 2 energy skills, 10e +5e = 15e.... 15e/20e = 75%... 75%e wastage before you deal damage, real smart.

p.s. Shock beats Shield Bash, Live with it.

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Shield Bash and Shock are fundamentally different, why are we comparing them?

If you're gonna use a Sword in PvP, go with something like this..

[card]Crippling Slash[/card][card]Gash[/card][card]Sun and Moon Slash[/card][card]Bull's Strike[/card][card]Conjure Frost[/card]

If you don't have Nightfall.. hm.. maybe something like this?
[card]Sever Artery[/card][card]Gash[/card][card]Final Thrust[/card][card]Bull's Charge[/card]

Or some DSlash build.. but I don't know about that..

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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
1. Any build works in RA, Ive seen Wars with Fire Storm
2. If you have no intention to switch to axes, dont intend on playing PvP.
3. 20 energy isnt much considering your using exhaustion spells and 10e conjures.
4. Learn to count. 2 energy skills, 10e +5e = 15e.... 15e/20e = 75%... 75%e wastage before you deal damage, real smart.

p.s. Shock beats Shield Bash, Live with it. wars with fire storm? i see where you get ur ideas

swords are my choice of weapon and i dont think anet made axes to be used especially for pvp, swords can be just as good

by the time my conjure skill needs to be recharged my exhaustion will be gone, to recover from exhaust, i need to wait 10x3=30sec, 1 energy per 3 sec

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Originally Posted by Exhonour
wars with fire storm? i see where you get ur ideas

swords are my choice of weapon and i dont think anet made axes to be used especially for pvp, swords can be just as good

by the time my conjure skill needs to be recharged my exhaustion will be gone, to recover from exhaust, i need to wait 10x3=30sec, 1 energy per 3 sec Well yeah Exhaustion should be gone by then.. Durr, but 30 seconds is a long time.

Fire Storm, I see you understand the definition of sarcasm. Incase you dont... Have fun using the Wikitionary! http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarcasm

If the link doesnt work, or you cba to click :

Noun
Singular
sarcasm
Plural
sarcasms

sarcasm (plural sarcasms)

(uncountable) A form of humor that is marked by mocking with irony, sometimes conveyed in speech with vocal over-emphasis.
(countable) An act of sarcasm.

Axes/ Swords wernt made for anything, its just common knowledge that axes > squishys - PvP and that Swords > PvE.

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Originally Posted by Exhonour
wars with fire storm? i see where you get ur ideas

swords are my choice of weapon and i dont think anet made axes to be used especially for pvp, swords can be just as good

by the time my conjure skill needs to be recharged my exhaustion will be gone, to recover from exhaust, i need to wait 10x3=30sec, 1 energy per 3 sec What the hell was your point of that first comment.... it makes no sense and sounds like a 10 year olds putdown.

In a game that has been around for over 2 years its pretty certain that people will ahve worked out what is best, esecially in PvP, Axes do come out on top.

So your only going to use shock once every 60 seconds?

~A Leprechaun~

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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
What the hell was your point of that first comment.... it makes no sense and sounds like a 10 year olds putdown.

In a game that has been around for over 2 years its pretty certain that people will ahve worked out what is best, esecially in PvP, Axes do come out on top.

So your only going to use shock once every 60 seconds?

~A Leprechaun~ yes i am, i need a knockdown against warriors and sins just once

in ab i use bullstrike

and yes u believe that about axes, one person says sumthing, everyone else follows that opinion other wise u are a noob under peer pressure, swords have their advantages in pvp

did you notice how axe warriors tend to heal rarely? because they are rushing to kill you with their dps, sword warriors on the other hand tend to heal more often because they are more balanced

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Originally Posted by Exhonour
yes i am, i need a knockdown against warriors and sins just once

in ab i use bullstrike

and yes u believe that about axes, one person says sumthing, everyone else follows that opinion other wise u are a noob under peer pressure, swords have their advantages in pvp

did you notice how axe warriors tend to heal rarely? because they are rushing to kill you with their dps, sword warriors on the other hand tend to heal more often because they are more balanced Heal rarely? What You never heard of Healing Signet? Wars are for DPS not healing, not tanking. BELEIVE IT!

"PEER PRESSURE" ROFL... What are you imagining a 100 virtual faces all staring at you? Sword wars are NOT more ballanced, I know this is off-topic but in PvE (If youv ever done that) dragon slash build dont use heals... They use SY and WY... Monks heal. A war has as many heals wether he uses an axe, sword or hammer... all heals lie in the tactics/ strength attribute anyway. Your just being ignorant and want to proove a point which is already deep down and lost in the void. Give up.

btw, fyi....

noob (plural noobs)

(Internet slang, pejorative) A newb or newbie; refers to the idea that someone is new to a game, concept, or idea; implying a lack of experience.
Noobs are annoying, they never know the forum rules.
You just got pwned, noob.
I’ll teach you noobs how to play.
I kill all you noobs in seconds!
You suck, you son of a noob

Exhonour

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they arent pure dmg class either, a surviving warrior can save the team and other players. warriors arent to jump in an die, they have surviving capabilities

on the other hand, get the fck out of here please, i asked a question whether i should use shock instead of shield bash and ur comming here with ur bullshit about ur axes and firestorm? idiot


u want dps? play an ele

and stop going to wikipedia, dictionary.com or urbandictionary and searching up terms like everyone else does, this makes u a total retard


+ur pretending to be sarcastic on the fire storm part? being sarcastic means using some sort of trigger that makes it sarcasm, not saying this straight:

1. Any build works in RA, Ive seen Wars with Fire Storm

u were most serious, stop pretending, newb

all ur posts are incorrect just as u are about ur gender ingame

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Originally Posted by Exhonour
they arent pure dmg class either, a surviving warrior can save the team and other players. warriors arent to jump in an die, they have surviving capabilities

on the other hand, get the fck out of here please, i asked a question whether i should use shock instead of shield bash and ur comming here with ur bullshit about ur axes and firestorm? idiot


u want dps? play an ele

and stop going to wikipedia, dictionary.com or urbandictionary and searching up terms like everyone else does, this makes u a total retard


+ur pretending to be sarcastic on the fire storm part? being sarcastic means using some sort of trigger that makes it sarcasm, not saying this straight:

1. Any build works in RA, Ive seen Wars with Fire Storm

u were most serious, stop pretending, newb

all ur posts are incorrect just as u are about ur gender ingame All my posts were incorrect? And yet wars have been playing with axes and have realized whats best before you knew what GW was.

Yes I do see wars with fire storm in RA what is it to u?

Wars absorb damage, they dont heal it out. L2p before you preach to someone (To some people I daresay) who KNOW what they are doing.

Why would I pretend!?

Well through this post youve definetly shown your 'level of maturity', since your SO PRO and LEET I suggest you dont post... Cus obviously Your thick-arsse brain isnt absorbing anything people are telling u.

Whats wrong with wikitionary? Cus I like to give precise definitions to idiots I magicly become a retard?

Wars played right dont die often, and no they dont jump in and die, theyr protted/ healed by monks, while absorbing dmg through high al, hp and runes.

EDIT : Btw! Whats this?! Is it a Cow!? a Plain?! OHH NOOO! ITS SEXISM!!! whats wrong with female chars? I know several of players who are better and more experianced than yourself who play with female chars, the majority of people on GW are male and play with female chars, its hardly my fault if I dont like the way male wars look. Theyr armor is too big, they just look like bears, hardly humane. The majority of my chars are male so shove it you sexist.

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Lol you just said u were sarcastic about warriors using firestorm now you are saying that its correct? why not pick a side and stick to it or you gonna go listen to other peoples opinions and follow their beliefs?

Warriors dont always have a monk, ever realize that? You what the interesting part about RA is? ITS RANDOM you dam noob, you arent always going to match up with a monk on your side.

Yes it has shown my level on maturity, i have my own opinion on everything and i expect to get what i want, my question answered. I suggest YOU dont post because my question was whether i should use shock instead of shield bash and you come giving me the wrong information, incorrect information that i dont need to hear. I dont need to hear what you say about axes, about my build, about firestorm, about sarcasm or about noobs. NOW THIS has shown your level or maturity, you can read but you don't interpret the text right.

Or maybe you are just perverted about seeing a virtual female? Yes?

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Originally Posted by Exhonour
Lol you just said u were sarcastic about warriors using firestorm now you are saying that its correct? why not pick a side and stick to it or you gonna go listen to other peoples opinions and follow their beliefs?

Warriors dont always have a monk, ever realize that? You what the interesting part about RA is? ITS RANDOM you dam noob, you arent always going to match up with a monk on your side.

Yes it has shown my level on maturity, i have my own opinion on everything and i expect to get what i want, my question answered. I suggest YOU dont post because my question was whether i should use shock instead of shield bash and you come giving me the wrong information, incorrect information that i dont need to hear. I dont need to hear what you say about axes, about my build, about firestorm, about sarcasm or about noobs. NOW THIS has shown your level or maturity, you can read but you don't interpret the text right.

Or maybe you are just perverted about seeing a virtual female? Yes? So, every male with a female char is a pervert? glad i cleared that up, im sure the majority of the world are gunna LOVE u.

Yeah RA are Random Hence the name : RANDOM ARENAS! And if there are no monks you can use HEALING SIGNET which I did point out about 3 times now.

Okay... and Yeah... I am a noob, but what does that make you?

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If the two of you could stop this childish bickering, I'd be a happier cat -.-

Exhonour, you want an answer -
Shock > Shield Bash, period.
Shock can be used offensively to snare a target to unload a spike, defensively to disrupt an assassin or whatever attacking you, or as a utility to KD and interrupt, whatever.

Shield Bash can only be used defensively.
Shock is more flexible and thus wins out, especially in arenas where you never know what you're gonna fight.

Now, both of you - drop it.

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Ty alex, never realized i can use it in spiking

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Ty alex, never realized i can use it in spiking Your ingenuity multiplied!

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lol exhounour you are an idiot with a thick ass skull
qdq you should not degrade yourself by arguing with him
he was being sarcastic firestorm war is a joke
wars dont run in and die if you are smart
swords are good in pvp but axes have a little more effectiveness
cripslash is really the only viable build that comes to mind atm
you have 96al and 500+ health and heal sig if you cant figure out how to out live that ele spamming flare then you fail at existence

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Lmfao exacly i knew you would say that swi so now its my turn.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trick

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trick


top post, never asked u to come here, why dont you shove ur thick glasses up ur arse?

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Lmfao exacly i knew you would say that swi so now its my turn.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trick
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trick There was a valid reason why I posted my links, and yours are? Oh wait, your just wasting my time!

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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
There was a valid reason why I posted my links, and yours are? Oh wait, your just wasting my time! Your reason was to mess around with me not give me definitions. Mine on the other hand prove that i could predict what you would say after getting to know you.


[skill=text]Fire Storm[/skill]
[card]Fire Storm[/card]
[skill]Fire Storm[/skill]
[skill=big]Fire Storm[/skill]
[wiki]Fire Storm[/wiki]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Exhonour
they arent pure dmg class either, a surviving warrior can save the team and other players. warriors arent to jump in an die, they have surviving capabilities i believe the surviving capabilities are due to monks and the warr not getting frenzy spiked... and if a warr isnt pure dmg they need to gtfo srsly...

and dont use shield bash use shock i can see why you want to use shield bash to interrupt chain attacks and to disable them i guess but you can do the same thing with shock... you jsut have to have the timing down...

RPGmaniac

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Originally Posted by Exhonour
top post, never asked u to come here, why dont you shove ur thick glasses up ur arse? This is a public forum, anybody can come and post their ideas. If you don't like that, don't come and post here.

You said you play this in AB, not RA. In AB you can choose your team, so get a freakin monk!

If you've been playing this game at all you would realize that the warrior with firestorm comment was a joke. It's the same thing as echo mending or frenzy+heal sig. There are those people that will actually run them. I've seen ranger flare spammers and rangers with meteor shower too, but they get promptly rolled.

To answer your question, shock is overall better than shield bash as long as you use it right. Don't spam it whenever it's available otherwise you'll run your energy dry with the exhaustion. It also has more uses like Alex said; some offensively, some defensively.

Exhonour

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Wrong maniac, i said:
I run a sword conjure build like this for arena: (mostly RA)




ya ty tho

Exhonour

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Originally Posted by KazeMitsui
i believe the surviving capabilities are due to monks and the warr not getting frenzy spiked... and if a warr isnt pure dmg they need to gtfo srsly...

and dont use shield bash use shock i can see why you want to use shield bash to interrupt chain attacks and to disable them i guess but you can do the same thing with shock... you jsut have to have the timing down... Ye i have a habit of over using it lol. Thx tho.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Exhonour
Wrong maniac, i said:
I run a sword conjure build like this for arena: (mostly RA)




ya ty tho Infact you said you used the same build with Bulls Strike in AB. Atleast read what you wrote rofl.

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Originally Posted by Exhonour
Ty alex, never realized i can use it in spiking Try this:
[card]Shock[/card][card]Frenzy[/card][card]Eviscerate[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card][card]Rush[/card]

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just stick with your build if you don't want help >.<

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Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Try this:
[card]Shock[/card][card]Frenzy[/card][card]Eviscerate[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card][card]Rush[/card] [skill]Disrupting Chop[/skill] and [skill]Healing Signet[/skill] are usefull, but always cancel Frenzy before using Healing Signet, or use heal sig when foes arent close enough to do you much harm while you have -40al and take double damage. The empty skill sot you could use a Rez Signet for RA or "For Great Justice"! can work well in AB, another viable option which is perhaps more common would be [skill]Bull's Strike[/skill]

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