Tweaking Drunkard

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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They re 167 hours doing almost anything else. And count a bonus of 30 hours, due to wrongly spent beverages.

flclisgreat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

been using this avatar IRL for ever

No I Wont join your guild[stfu]

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i like it how it is. separates the "i have lots of money" people, aka sweet tooth from the people who are dedicated to Gw

Richardt

Richardt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

http://friendsofloa.com/forum

Leader-Legion of Avalon [LoA] Alliance-Recruiting PM for info!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
way too much titles of GW are imo concepted for way to long effort ..as if Anet would say:

"When you want to reach this title..then you have to play our game for x years and to mutate into a hardcore powergamer...you have to play. to farm.to grind for at least 8 hours per day to be worth the title >.>"

where we are at title change of sweet tooth and drunkard ..

i also think..these 2 titles could resally need more RANKS ..come on..both titles have only 2 ranks oO
how silly is that, when you see. that most all other titles have like 10 ranks...


why can't anet just put more ranks between 1000 and 10000 points (minutes)

something like this for example:

1000
2000
3000
4000
5000
6000
...
10000

and bang those titles would also have 10 ranks...and the players would receive over tiem a better feeling of a raising progess ..

when you have to grind/farm from 1000 to 10000 ..the time needed/spent times feels so endless..but with mork ranks bettween..you have at least the fealing of getting quicker further..when you see. how you rise from rank to rank..ever 1 step nearer to your goal


however. i can sign only again.. that drunkard title needs to be changed from minutes to points.. to take out the stupid time point about this title..so that the player just needs to drink only the alk...but hasn#t t wait for the minutes to be counted


Example:

1000 I love Alcohol
2000 Where's my Whisky?
3000 A Treasure for Rum ..Yoho
4000 Wotka for Life
5000 Gimme Ouzo!!
6000 Beer oh lovely Beer HURRAH
7000 One Jägermeister for me please
8000 Wow crazy these Cocktails
9000 Nothing is better, than an ancient Wine
10000 I sold my Soul for Alcohol

and something similar funny for Sweettooth then ....

I could get behind something like this...so /signed

As for the OP, I like the first 2 ideas so /signed again.
A little timer would be really really really really really nice (did I mention how nice it would be?).

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

/signed. I hate how you have to sit there and stare at your screen while the title slowly progresses, whereas Sweet Tooth you just double click and the points add right on. This needs to be changed. That way if someone wants to see their screen swirling around it's fine but if they don't they don't have to.

SleetDragon

SleetDragon

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

In my House duh...

Knights of The Primeval Kings [Knyt]

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I'm partial I really like the idea of the icon since they already use one for the sweet tooth so /Signed on that
The level increase wouldn't be so bad either might open them up to put more variety of drinks in the game lol, imagine characters in LA acting like bartenders XD. So a little /Signed on level increase on alcohol.
But I'm not sure about changing to points, its a grind yes, however isn't just about everything? Then you could say well Sweet Tooth uses points yes but, I consider Drunkard to be more impressive because of the dedication put into it. In fact I know an alliance member performing it right now and I give her all my alcohol as it is so... I dunno not entirely signed on changing to points yet sorry.
So:
/Signed for adding stuff to make a little easier
Unsure about changing title to points yet.

Sol Deathgard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shadows of the Dragon

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin
Nope, another "I don't wanna waste 1,000 minutes looking at my screen thread"


Big difference.
Do like I'm doing, Drinking while vanquishing, doing missions, quests, basiclly, I'm drinking while playing the game. amazing how fast the times goes when you're actually doing something other then sitting at your guild hall.

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Deathgard
Do like I'm doing, Drinking while vanquishing, doing missions, quests, basiclly, I'm drinking while playing the game. amazing how fast the times goes when you're actually doing something other then sitting at your guild hall.
167 hours isnt that much when you do your Legendary Vanquisher, Legendary Guardian, helping people, etc. Its nothing. And if people are dumb enough to stand in town the whole 167 hours then they deserve to waste their time.

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

Icon is a great idea

/signed for the icon.

Doesn't make the title easier just less time waisting.

macke

macke

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Serbia-Belgrade

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by wetsparks
2. To complement that, a little box could be displayed in the top left of the screen, like sweet tooth does, with say a mug of ale and a number saying what level of drunkenness you are on. This would make it so that you don't have to stare at your hero panel all the time and hope you don't forget what the last number was to keep you drunk enough to work on the title and not waste money (that this title costs a lot of).
/signed--------

T. Drake

T. Drake

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/Me

I had a similar idea.

/signed

The drunkard title in it's current form is one of the most boring to do.

1. Drink ale to reach level 5.
2. Switch to your internet browser and read some stuff or do something else.
3. Go back to the game and click on a drink.

Repeat this for a very long time.

Drinking while playing the game requires "too much micro" and all what you do is looking at your watch and don't play the game properly anyway.

ekamdu

ekamdu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Holland

Legion of Sacred Light

Mo/

/unsigned...

i got it maxed.. wasnt really a problem (yeah it did take a while, who cares)
if they change it now its pretty RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up for the people who had to do it the
old fasioned way... just like the faction titles (kurzick and luxon)...

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by ekamdu
/unsigned...

i got it maxed.. wasnt really a problem (yeah it did take a while, who cares)
if they change it now its pretty RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up for the people who had to do it the
old fasioned way... just like the faction titles (kurzick and luxon)...
Should we have to go back to horse-drawn ploughs because tractors are unfair to the people of old? Seriously, get over yourself.

/signed

It would be great to not have it be so tedious.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

OK, bumping this because I was going to start my own thread, but I used SEARCH (oooh, wow!), and saw it was already posted. Basically, my idea is similar; hell, it's pretty much the same:

1) Allow for a higher level of drunkenness - something like 15-20 minutes, but keep the 'level 3 is drunk.' This allows for a greater freedom of being able to actually explore/vanquish/missions/whatever without having to have several windows open and concentrating more on when to double-click the next drink. Besides, who gets plastered and is suddenly completely sober in 5 minutes? Seriously.

2) Icon in the effects monitor. Yeah, the screen goes all crazy, but there's no way to know how much longer the drunk effect will last without timing it yourself. A simple icon with the little timer solves this, and combines well with #1 so that you don't have to concentrate on anything but what you're normally concentrating on while playing - what effects you have on you.

That's it. Now that we have skills that work only when drunk, alcohol actually plays a mechanical role, and as such should be more incorporated into the GUI and more user-friendly. I don't agree with changing the time limit required, or how the title is achieved, but just a way to make it, let's say, less of a hassle.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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What arcanemacabre said. Both things are good.
Specially the drunkenness lasts more.

Whe have skills that change behavior while drunk, so the effect is much more needed, since drunkenness became 'part of the rules', like other conditions.

It could have an icon similar to the condition ones, but not being removable like the rest of conditions.

Matt_Night

Matt_Night

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Poland

[SOLL]

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for the past four weeks I've been doin nothing but drinking and spending money for more drinks, and honestly, staring at that stupid title progress bar just to see another minute added starts to drive me insane.

Before any icons or whatever else will be introduced I'll prolly get my 10k mins, still:

/signed

end this madness!

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

I have stacks of alcohol in my storage but not the will power (nor the free time) to get the title

I wondered if Anet did it on purpose to make alcohol seem evil and a waste of life to the kiddies, but then they make skills that make you more powerful when your drunk so there goes that idea. Remeber kids your twice as strong when your drunk

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

No, no. Haven't you seen Jackie Chang's movies? http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Drunken_Master#Trivia

You have to drink the precise amount.
More is bad for the health. Less won't work for the skill.
Thinking about that... hm... maybe they could make so...

Drunken having 30 levels (Lasting 16 minutes if you get them all)
Levels 1,2 and 3: Nothing. There is a condition icon, but time do not counts for the title.
Levels 4..28: Drunk. Each minute counts. You have a leeway of 25 minutes of being drunk. After that time, it goes back to level 3 and do not count points. 25 minutes is more than enough to drink another 20 beers and go back to cleaning the house.
Levels 29 and 30: Severely Intoxicated (Would work like Crippling, Weakness, Dazing and Blindness at the same time) Again, time do not count under this third level of the condition.

Just like in the sequel: Too much: groggy; precise amount: kick ass.

The icon could change that way also. The border would be a condition border, and the image:
Levels 1,2: Hunter's Ale.
Levels 3..18: Flask of Firewater.
Levels 19 and 20: Human Liver. (XDD)

Hm... that gives the sense of 'do not drink too much' you mentioned.

JASON626

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

/sign

Make it points system. Small amount of people know about the exploit system while others pain stakinly do 10,000 minutes. The exploit should have been fixed awhile ago or ban them for a new 117 poeple muhaha lol.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10108169

Ekelon

Ekelon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rebel Rising [rawr]

A/W

/signed

I would say at least 50% of the people who got their max drunk title botted to get it anyawys, so they can't really complain.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

/signed.

Would make going for the title more appealing.

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

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/signed to add an icon so we know how drunk we are. I'm doing it the old fashioned way (can't afford the zoning trick) and I'm just shy of 3k minutes drunk, but I know I waste a lot when I'm doing it because I get into a trade with someone or am fighting a huge group of enemies and look and see that my hero title shows that 3 minutes have passed, and I have no idea if it just clicked over or if it did it a while ago waste a lot that way. Please add icon, it doesn't take away from the people that already maxed it, nor the thought that a ton of time and money should be spent on it, just makes it easier to track.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
2) Icon in the effects monitor. Yeah, the screen goes all crazy, but there's no way to know how much longer the drunk effect will last without timing it yourself. A simple icon with the little timer solves this, and combines well with #1 so that you don't have to concentrate on anything but what you're normally concentrating on while playing - what effects you have on you.
This is my biggest gripe.

I wrote myself a script to beep me every 3 minutes so I'd know when to drink which was good for a while, but between teamspeak and in game sounds, my brain now ends up filtering it out.

Lawliet Kira

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

E/Me

w00t buy stacks of ale and click on all of em and boom 10000 minutes and go watch t.v for 20 hours

NND

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

[Lord]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avatar The Element
w00t buy stacks of ale and click on all of em and boom 10000 minutes and go watch t.v for 20 hours
w00t there is a cap at 3 mins
w00t a char cant be logged in for more that 10 hours at a dis/explorable area without zoning

/signed

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

Signed, and to those saying it lessens the skill, there is no skill required staring at a screen for 16 days clicking on 2 ales every 2 minutes.