Obtaining skills - cheaply
AaronSwitchblade
Recently, I found out about turning in Handbooks for easy rep points in GWEN - something I didn't know about previously. Could have saved me a lot of farming. This has made me think that there might be other preconceived notions I have about the game that could be wrong, so I have a question:
In Prophecies, a huge amount of your class's skills could be obtained via quests, as opposed to buying them (obviously I'm not talking about Elites here). In Factions though, this seemed to be changed and not as many quests had skills as their rewards.
This made me think that getting skills in Factions was really expensive. My Factions Ranger has almost no skills in Beast Mastery for this reason (I didn't want to focus on it).
So now, I want to try out Beast Mastery, but the costs of obtaining a range of skills for it would be astronomical.
So, is it possible that I've missed some other way of earning skills post-Prophecies, that doesn't involve buying them from a skill trainer?
In Prophecies, a huge amount of your class's skills could be obtained via quests, as opposed to buying them (obviously I'm not talking about Elites here). In Factions though, this seemed to be changed and not as many quests had skills as their rewards.
This made me think that getting skills in Factions was really expensive. My Factions Ranger has almost no skills in Beast Mastery for this reason (I didn't want to focus on it).
So now, I want to try out Beast Mastery, but the costs of obtaining a range of skills for it would be astronomical.
So, is it possible that I've missed some other way of earning skills post-Prophecies, that doesn't involve buying them from a skill trainer?
Zeek Aran
Tomes for rangers can easily be 300-500g. That halves the price of a trainer at worst.
AaronSwitchblade
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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
Tomes for rangers can easily be 300-500g. That halves the price of a trainer at worst.
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KazeMitsui
go pvp imo get some faction unlock it easy as pie
Rothaga
The price shouldnt be "astronomical", just get the skills for the build you want, then as your using that build, you should come across enough gold to cover any other skills you may want.
arsie
I played through Prophesies with 3 characters so that I can get all the free skills from all 6 professions in quests. I did it more to unlock skills for Heroes than for my other characters.
Like mentioned before, after doing all the skill quests in Prophesies, you can buy cheap tomes and transfer them to other characters that need it more.
Having said that, be aware that you make a lot more gold in Factions and Nightfall, that buying skills is not a problem. Characters not "born" in Prophesies cannot go over and do the skill quests.
Like mentioned before, after doing all the skill quests in Prophesies, you can buy cheap tomes and transfer them to other characters that need it more.
Having said that, be aware that you make a lot more gold in Factions and Nightfall, that buying skills is not a problem. Characters not "born" in Prophesies cannot go over and do the skill quests.
Peter Acid Eater
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Originally Posted by KazeMitsui
go pvp imo get some faction unlock it easy as pie
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I Phoenix I
Quests in Factions (and maybe Nightfall) generally provide a lot more gold and a skill point as a reward, so it shouldn't be that hard to get skills. Just complete a few quests and you'll have a few K.
You could also do the skill quests in Tyria. All post-Lion's Arch are available (which is quite a lot).
You could also do the skill quests in Tyria. All post-Lion's Arch are available (which is quite a lot).
Melei Hawke
you can also go and open all the treasure chests in nightfall, first time through you can easily get 10k...
MirkoTeran
Considering they already cheapened buying skill (from variable increasing price to fixed 1k) you shouldn't be asking more.
AaronSwitchblade
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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
Considering they already cheapened buying skill (from variable increasing price to fixed 1k) you shouldn't be asking more.
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ElinoraNeSangre
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Originally Posted by Peter Acid Eater
Aye. Do some Alliance Battles and build up some Balthazar faction and buy out some skills to unlock. Then use the skill tomes.
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RPGmaniac
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Originally Posted by AaronSwitchblade
Yeah, y'see, this is the crap I was talking about! I didn't know they did that; when was the change?
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cosyfiep
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Originally Posted by arsie
Having said that, be aware that you make a lot more gold in Factions and Nightfall, that buying skills is not a problem. Characters not "born" in Prophesies cannot go over and do the skill quests.
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not completely true. There are about a dozen or so 'free' skills quests that core professions can do to get skills without paying the plat. (starting from LA you can do graven images....continuing thru the desert and belated betrothal). I have taken my Canthans and Elonians thru these just for the free skills (I have done them with these characters and know that you will get the 'free' skills for doing them). Its not alot but 12plat saved is almost one piece of elite armor!
(check out this link for a list of prophecies quests....note that under the "kryta" area all characters can do the quests, and if you have a core profession you will get the skill listed for completing the quest:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Quests_%28Prophecies%29 )
I hope this helps somewhat.
strcpy
If you simply need unlocks done easily and you do not like PvP then do the Team Trials stuff (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Team_Trials). It shouldn't be hard to get the gold/skill points to unlock specific builds from a skill trainer after that. There is no real reason to have skills unlocked that you aren't planning on using - especially in PvE.
That is the so called PvP training quests - basically PvE in PvP arenas. You are capped at 2000 exp/day (two normal skill unlocks) and you can use your PvE character and hench or your heroes. I use it quite a bit for unlocks - it takes roughly 15-20 minutes once you know what you are doing. If you go on to the later PvP "training" quests you can get up to 6000 faction per day but I, personally, do not find it worth the effort (others disagree - it is up to you).
Of course, a full campaign unlock in the in-game store is now only 5 dollars. I've got pretty much everything I want unlocked (I would guess over 80% of the skills - but I have been playing for over 2 years) and the little I do not I can easily get. However if you need most of them it is fairly cheap.
That is the so called PvP training quests - basically PvE in PvP arenas. You are capped at 2000 exp/day (two normal skill unlocks) and you can use your PvE character and hench or your heroes. I use it quite a bit for unlocks - it takes roughly 15-20 minutes once you know what you are doing. If you go on to the later PvP "training" quests you can get up to 6000 faction per day but I, personally, do not find it worth the effort (others disagree - it is up to you).
Of course, a full campaign unlock in the in-game store is now only 5 dollars. I've got pretty much everything I want unlocked (I would guess over 80% of the skills - but I have been playing for over 2 years) and the little I do not I can easily get. However if you need most of them it is fairly cheap.
Khazad Guard
I just brought the skill unlock sets and use tomes. before tht though I went through a few characters that I deleted, but before I deleted I just went to the Skill Trainer and spent my whatever skill points I had and brough the skills cheaply. This way I unlocked a heap of skills. Its easy to do with Factions and NF because you start of in Kamadan/Shing Jea, but less so Prophecies (stupid pre)
malko050987
Another option is to go to all the prof changers and change proffession. All of them will give you some skills.
Cargan
or of you have one prophecies character, change the second profession then go back through Tyria picking up all the profession specific quests for your second profession. These are quests given from NPC's scattered around Old Ascalon area and as far as Yak's Bend. I think the last one is Artemis, a bit north of Yak's.
Alternatively, if you're really desperate to save a few gold, you could be a bit more complex about it... make a new character and get a few skill points then get a guildie to run you LA, go over to Kaineng and unlock the skills you want at the lower price (since the new character won't have purchased other skills it should start off at around 50g). Then buy the tomes for around 300g for the character you want them on.
Alternatively, if you're really desperate to save a few gold, you could be a bit more complex about it... make a new character and get a few skill points then get a guildie to run you LA, go over to Kaineng and unlock the skills you want at the lower price (since the new character won't have purchased other skills it should start off at around 50g). Then buy the tomes for around 300g for the character you want them on.
IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by KazeMitsui
go pvp imo get some faction unlock it easy as pie
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Lol that solves nothing he still has to buy them with Plat, you told him to unlock it 2 times with this hint 1 for pvp and 1 for pve.
malko050987
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Originally Posted by IslandHermet
Lol that solves nothing he still has to buy them with Plat, you told him to unlock it 2 times with this hint 1 for pvp and 1 for pve.
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Shandril
The best thing to do is complete one campaign and then farm. If you are smart about it most of the core skills can be learned this way. If you are having issues the best way I found to gain the skills is to farm, and then buy tome's. I can't keep up now. I have 97 points to use, and now I am forced to complete quests and missions for GW:EN, and NF. So you can balance it out, it just takes time. 300G +1 is much less expensive than 1P +1. It might not seem like it but wait until you have 100 skills. 50P at 500 per or 30P at 300per vs. 100P at 1P per. I'm not rich nor poor in game, but having an extra 60 or so P means 15K armor, or 5 to 6 Elite skills. Hope some of this helps.