/thank, encouraging good behaviour; the opposite of /report
Darkobra
With /thank and /report, yes it is black and white.
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Darkobra
With /thank and /report, yes it is black and white.
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Talking about the Scribe and Random Acts of Kindness: http://www.guildwars.com/community/t...ibe-071120.php
Zephyr_9
I strongly agree, simple halo and/or wings.
/signed
/signed
silv3rr
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Originally Posted by Darkobra
With /thank and /report, yes it is black and white.
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Ah yes the Random Acts of Kindness thing, if you're so against it, why don't you present your logic and theories to ANet? If anything, people help others for the wrong reasons, just to get rewards... doesn't that support your logic? So please, by all means, present that to ANet.
Rich_Izy
NO NO NO title...please don't make each /thank 1 pt into the popularity title. It'll be like MapleStory's "Buying fame for 5k"
I /thank you for thinking of this idea
/signed
I /thank you for thinking of this idea
/signed
Aera Lure
I would like this for the first four options at least, but not a title or drop bonuses. That just begs being abused. I do like the angel's wings, myself. Some little bonus maybe encouraging me to go do more charitable acts as I always like to do, helping with missions for random PUGs, helping someone on a quest etc. Would actually be kind of neat if sometimes after doing such a thing you got a little reward, non-monetary. What that is well... that's open, but its a nice idea.
/signed
/signed
KZaske
Over all, I like the idea. But it will be heavly abused. Limits would need to be imposed. Perhaps requiring the person giving the thanks should be required to explain why they are thanking them.
*highlights BlueNovember
/Thanks Good Idea
*highlights BlueNovember
/Thanks Good Idea
ValaOfTheFens
Nice idea. However I would make it similar to /report. Abuse of it will get your account suspended or banned. You won't know who thanked you though, unless they tell you beforehand, as it will be anon like reporting. Also, after being thanked 100,000 times you get a one tiered title called "Domo Arigato!". Think about it. You can't go to Kamadan and spam "Paying 1k to be thanked!" because you'll be reported for spamming and/or your messages will get suppressed.
Abedeus
Maybe add a title, but one account can get a thanks for someone just one time in a year. So you can't get 2 thanks for one person ;p And maybe a limit of 5 thanks daily? Anyway...
/signed
/signed
System_Crush
While it makes sense to have the carrot, the same rules would apply as to /report or it will lose the point.
Which means you can get banned for abuse, which means the carrot needs it's own stick, which means it loses it's point no matter what.
The only way this would work if the bonus was useless and lasting no longer than the time you area in.
(in other words, people wouldn't want to make bogus /thanks because they wouldn't do nothing)
meaning the bonus would be reduced to like.
A whisper message/pingy sound. (like clapping or something)
A gods blessing chat message by the thanker instead of the gods, only in the area of the person being thanked(entire server would be spammed to death other wise, and needs a spam blocker for if you ask your entire alliance to /thank you)
Or a visual halo, paragon wings while in the area.(For that you'd ask for bogus /thanks, but they do so little it wouldn't really matter)
The idea is good, but one trough the human factor it all ends up rather pointless.
/not signed
Which means you can get banned for abuse, which means the carrot needs it's own stick, which means it loses it's point no matter what.
The only way this would work if the bonus was useless and lasting no longer than the time you area in.
(in other words, people wouldn't want to make bogus /thanks because they wouldn't do nothing)
meaning the bonus would be reduced to like.
A whisper message/pingy sound. (like clapping or something)
A gods blessing chat message by the thanker instead of the gods, only in the area of the person being thanked(entire server would be spammed to death other wise, and needs a spam blocker for if you ask your entire alliance to /thank you)
Or a visual halo, paragon wings while in the area.(For that you'd ask for bogus /thanks, but they do so little it wouldn't really matter)
The idea is good, but one trough the human factor it all ends up rather pointless.
/not signed
Fril Estelin
I don't see this feature as a counter-part of /report, so for me it makes no sense to apply the same rules. It should not have any real "advantage", no title, no money, no skill, no this or that. Simply add a nice little thingie (actually, it'd be better to have several so that people who are kind and are rewarded a lot via /thanks could actually experience different things, an emote, a graphical element). Keep It Simple (Stupid), do not make it a Big Thing (TM), it should stay as "un-natural" as possible and not open the doors of "over-esteem".
Look at the "Random Acts of Kindness" of the (resurrected) Scribe. Is this adding anything to the game? Not per se, as it is not tied to the mechanics of the game, rather its "surface". And the /thanks feature could propose to put this tool in the hands of the community, exactly like /report (of course it MUST be limited to, say, one thank a day and no more than 2 thanks to the same person in a week, that's an example).
GW has become what it is thanks to the "human factor". Without it, nothing would have been achieved. And as I mentioned before, in big communities (GWG is one, that may be only 2 or 3% of the whole GW community?) we tend to inflate the "bad reports" in comparison to the "good" ones in situations of "relative threat" (whatever you consider this to be).
Once more: yes the /thanks feature can be abused, but the abuse would only lead to people bragging and showing to others how immature they are (and that's not a bad thing).
Look at the "Random Acts of Kindness" of the (resurrected) Scribe. Is this adding anything to the game? Not per se, as it is not tied to the mechanics of the game, rather its "surface". And the /thanks feature could propose to put this tool in the hands of the community, exactly like /report (of course it MUST be limited to, say, one thank a day and no more than 2 thanks to the same person in a week, that's an example).
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Originally Posted by System_Crush
The idea is good, but one trough the human factor it all ends up rather pointless
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Once more: yes the /thanks feature can be abused, but the abuse would only lead to people bragging and showing to others how immature they are (and that's not a bad thing).
Kai Nui
Guild Announcement By Kai Nui: Everyone be sure to /thank everyone at least once a day so we all get a title for free!
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Kai Nui
Guild Announcement By Kai Nui: Everyone be sure to /thank everyone at least once a day so we all get a title for free!
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*end of official tone, normal voice* Free dyes for the /thanked!
silv3rr
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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
Once more: yes the /thanks feature can be abused, but the abuse would only lead to people bragging and showing to others how immature they are (and that's not a bad thing).
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And some of you people really need to read at least the 1st page posts before making a comment.
Joshthor
why? there is no need i dont even see a use
silv3rr
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Originally Posted by Joshthor
why? there is no need i dont even see a use
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So I ask you, why did you make such a insensate comment?
BlueNovember
Lots of interesting discussion so far.
I think the general consensus is that the idea is good, but potentially abuseable.
I still think that as long as even a minority take it upon themselves to behave better to others, even if it is a soley selfish endeavour, then the system has worked.
If people chose to get /thanked for the wrong reasons (paying, circle-thanking, or what have you), so be it. It does no harm to anyone.
I added the list of /signed and /unsigned to the OP.
I think the general consensus is that the idea is good, but potentially abuseable.
I still think that as long as even a minority take it upon themselves to behave better to others, even if it is a soley selfish endeavour, then the system has worked.
If people chose to get /thanked for the wrong reasons (paying, circle-thanking, or what have you), so be it. It does no harm to anyone.
I added the list of /signed and /unsigned to the OP.
arcanemacabre
Alright, you know what, I have changed my mind. However, only on the basis that the /thank command gives no advantages to the thankee (or thanker). The halo thing is a nice idea, perhaps after getting maybe 5-10 /thanks. The downside is that this would create a breed of people who would town-hop and yell in local "Everyone /thank me! I want the glowy thing!" However, the novelty would wear off eventually, and it would become a bit more bearable.
I guess throw me to the /signed list. I was primarily against it because I didn't see what good it would do. However, that's never a good reason to disagree with an idea. If Anet then decides that it isn't worth the effort, so be it.
I guess throw me to the /signed list. I was primarily against it because I didn't see what good it would do. However, that's never a good reason to disagree with an idea. If Anet then decides that it isn't worth the effort, so be it.
gremlin
Its a good idea and once any exploits "If any excist" are worked out it could be fun.
Be interesting to see if anyone walking around with a visible sign of helping gets mobbed in towns.
/signed
Be interesting to see if anyone walking around with a visible sign of helping gets mobbed in towns.
/signed
Lexxor
I'm in favor of a title *IF* it's temporary. Say reduced by 50% per day. That would discourage fame trading a la MapleStory.
Hengis
Nice idea!
/ signed
However, as others have mentioned it "could" be abused. Making the reward have no in game value other than something visual would help of course, but what if there was also a nominal fee to officially thank someone- say 100g the same as there is to invite someone to your guild.
That measure pretty much stopped the random Guild invites that used to plague the game.
On the whole though, I do like the idea. One of the more original ideas I have seen here :-)
/ signed
However, as others have mentioned it "could" be abused. Making the reward have no in game value other than something visual would help of course, but what if there was also a nominal fee to officially thank someone- say 100g the same as there is to invite someone to your guild.
That measure pretty much stopped the random Guild invites that used to plague the game.
On the whole though, I do like the idea. One of the more original ideas I have seen here :-)
ZonerZ
/thank. Originally, I would say that I was against it merely because I thought that thanks could be sold. Then I thought, 'If someone is willing to break an a-net rule to sell a /thanks, the buyer might not think he's trustworthy.' Imagine this:
Buyer:thanks first.
Seller:Money first
Buyer:no, thanks first.
Seller: No deal you n00b I will PWN you!!!
Buyer:thanks first.
Seller:Money first
Buyer:no, thanks first.
Seller: No deal you n00b I will PWN you!!!
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
what if there was also a nominal fee to officially thank someone- say 100g the same as there is to invite someone to your guild.
That measure pretty much stopped the random Guild invites that used to plague the game. |
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
However, as others have mentioned it "could" be abused. Making the reward have no in game value other than something visual would help of course, but what if there was also a nominal fee to officially thank someone- say 100g the same as there is to invite someone to your guild.
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Woop Shotty
/not
Maybe if people want to take the time to recount nice experiences on forums, then while it's corny, it's more appropriate.
Maybe if people want to take the time to recount nice experiences on forums, then while it's corny, it's more appropriate.
pumpkin pie
I have one idea to chip in regarding the thank systems.
add a thank button in the trade box, if someone gives you something out of the kindness of their heart, you click the thank you button.
The good deed will be announced in the channel in green letters, Players A has given Players B 100 ectos. et-cetera.... no need a record or a title for it.
This is solely up to the receiver end to decide if they want to click the thank button, because, you cannot make people thank you if your intention in giving away stuffs is to help other players and not because you want the thank you. so the descretion lies with the receiver of the gift.
Players should want to help other players because they want to not because a system made you do it.
my 1.25 sents :P~
add a thank button in the trade box, if someone gives you something out of the kindness of their heart, you click the thank you button.
The good deed will be announced in the channel in green letters, Players A has given Players B 100 ectos. et-cetera.... no need a record or a title for it.
This is solely up to the receiver end to decide if they want to click the thank button, because, you cannot make people thank you if your intention in giving away stuffs is to help other players and not because you want the thank you. so the descretion lies with the receiver of the gift.
Players should want to help other players because they want to not because a system made you do it.
my 1.25 sents :P~
Alex the Great
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Originally Posted by Bankai
Fril, have you ever played a game where they have a system like a /thank system?
I think not. If you did, you must surely remember the thousands of people trying to buy and sell /thanks. |
maplestory
but that game fails misrably despite the huge number of players
Swift Thief
/signed
Wow, good idea.
Wow, good idea.
jimme
/signed
Nice idea
Nice idea
tyche7
/signed
Interesting - I like it. Very nice.
Interesting - I like it. Very nice.
Shayne Hawke
Limit the time you can use it to once per minute or something low, so that people don't spam. Then, set it up so that it shows up in emotes.
It could be like: [Your Name] thanks [Player's Name] for [Reason]!
So you could have something like, Little Timmy thanks Mr T for showing off his muscles!
Other than showing off some message of appreciation, I think any value you get in the game, like title points, items, visual effects, or anything else, should not be implemented.
/signed
It could be like: [Your Name] thanks [Player's Name] for [Reason]!
So you could have something like, Little Timmy thanks Mr T for showing off his muscles!
Other than showing off some message of appreciation, I think any value you get in the game, like title points, items, visual effects, or anything else, should not be implemented.
/signed
Croco Clouds
/signed, it's good to do that after trades (similar to feedback on ebay)
Songbringer
/signed
u can only /report 50 times in 24 hours...possibly same for /thank maybe even less cause get 10 friends all /thank 50 times but yea /signed cause im a helpful person constantly doing free runs and free pwrlvling for the few that still play prophecies. well u can still pwrlvl with hfff thats always fun but not to many can get to lutgardis to do it without dieing ^^ im on a rant srry
u can only /report 50 times in 24 hours...possibly same for /thank maybe even less cause get 10 friends all /thank 50 times but yea /signed cause im a helpful person constantly doing free runs and free pwrlvling for the few that still play prophecies. well u can still pwrlvl with hfff thats always fun but not to many can get to lutgardis to do it without dieing ^^ im on a rant srry
Dante the Warlord
For your problem of overuse by friends, you could just make it so there are no players able to thank a person twice. Maybe make it so no one on ur friends list or who was on ur friends list can thank you more then twice.
As a consent you should also have the person gain a title and obtain a special consumable item (like fireworks?) or something, maybe an old mini or lessen your time to wait for your next birthday? But make this absurdly high
/signed anyways
As a consent you should also have the person gain a title and obtain a special consumable item (like fireworks?) or something, maybe an old mini or lessen your time to wait for your next birthday? But make this absurdly high
/signed anyways
Exterminate all
/signed
Cool idea, like the way this is going.
Cool idea, like the way this is going.
L|S >+>+G+<+<
Whilst this is truly a nice idea I think I have to say
/not signed
If you want to thanks someone for helping you or other people then just give them a tip, or a nice item or spread the word to your fellow guildies how nice they were.
If they ran you, then their chances of increasing the running revenue will go up due to the kind words you said about them.
If they helped you with a quest then they will have a good friend that might be able to help them back at another time.
I don't see the point for this except for either having a new title or earning more things and thus gaining an advantage over others.
Sorry but not signed & not because I think its a bad idea.
I think your heart is in the right place op.
G
/not signed
If you want to thanks someone for helping you or other people then just give them a tip, or a nice item or spread the word to your fellow guildies how nice they were.
If they ran you, then their chances of increasing the running revenue will go up due to the kind words you said about them.
If they helped you with a quest then they will have a good friend that might be able to help them back at another time.
I don't see the point for this except for either having a new title or earning more things and thus gaining an advantage over others.
Sorry but not signed & not because I think its a bad idea.
I think your heart is in the right place op.
G
AuraofMana
1k to all who /thank me. 50k bonus for the last person who gets me the title + uber cool color text!!
Apache.Scythe
/signed
just need to find a effective away to stop this feture being abused
just need to find a effective away to stop this feture being abused
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by AuraofMana
1k to all who /thank me. 50k bonus for the last person who gets me the title + uber cool color text!!
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Stormz
/notsigned i loved the idear at first, sadly enough i can see lots of people abusing it, theres enough titlegrinders out there for titles or emotes or whatever.All i'd have to do is /thank someone,whatever i/she/he really feels=Artificial friendlyness=no thx.Maybe it can be adjusted somewhere but until now i don't see how.