Bear Club for Men/Women

Originally Posted by Rathcail

Now that sounded odd. How many players, who do not have Factions or Nightfall, get to level 20 but don't get past LA?

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

I took your statement as saying they can just click K and change their secondary to use whatever they need...or they can just pop up to Temple of Balthazar and shell out 500 bones for the new secondary, then buy whatever skills they need....

That level 20 who didn't get past LA would need to go all the way to the Desert to ascend, assuming he didn't have factions or NF...not all people have factions or NF thus not everyone has access to the super-cheap spirit build, not everyone has the out-of-the-way towns in proph that offer some of the more useful skills thus would have to be run or get themselves there, then pay even more to obtain these skills. Sure they can PvP and unlock, then tome, these skills but that's more time spent NOT doing what they want to do...which is eotn.

Just because the option is there, doesn't mean it's a viable or attractive option. Some people don't read wiki or guru and don't know these options are out there YET. That may seem strange to you who should know every last detail of this game..but it's true.

This quest and various others are designed for the hardcore players who use every possible resource they can to play their game...they use cookie-cutter builds that have little to no room for error. Forcing a character class to use a weapon that's not made for their profession to complete a quest, and at the same time make the enemy of focus in that quest cheat to no end...that's just stupid.

You see my point right? GWEN is tailored to the elite players but advertised to all. It's a poor design and poorly implemented.

Originally Posted by Skyy High

...It's not like interrupting the bear's troll EVERY TIME is a requirement to beating him, and it's not like there are no decent secondary interruption skills to do it with.

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

I did on my first couple characters. I just enjoyed playing the quests and exploring, and just leveled up along the way.

Originally Posted by Avarre

Why do people say monsters cheat? In what game ever are monsters tied to the same rules as the players? In what part of Guild Wars did anyone say that the same rules apply to monsters as players? The monsters are how they are, they function fully withing their own design parameters. Nobody ever called out Rakanishu for 'cheating' because he had lightning enchant aura.

I don't get it.