Disappointed at Merch

ensoriki

ensoriki

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
Can I experess my disappointment at Anet for making the only thing I would buy Merchandise-wise in the store in Men's sizes only? Seriously, the only clothing article that has an even slightly ok design, for the reason that it's minimalist, is the only thing that I'm not able to buy purely because of my gender.

Can you guys fix this? I don't think we should be excluded from purchasing from you guys just because we don't have penises. Thanks Anet. Fix Asap and you'll get some money from me. Because seriously, those other shirts are totally gross. That's right, the only thing a woman in her right mind WOULDN't buy, is the one thing you guys made in our sizing.
...>.>
If you want a penis....go to Canada, Toronto, Eaton centre...Take a left into the Alley. Don't go in there without Twizzlers, or your as good as dead. You'll see a window Knock three times, then turn around and don't look.
You'll hear a voice say "how big" , say 15 inches, you'll get the reply "Do it"
Turn around now there will be a crate, put the Twizzlers or 300,000 dollars cash (either works) turn around again and say "its all there" (and if you ate some twizzlers....god speed) if you did it right you'll get the answer "Done"
Turn around once again for the final time, the twizzlers/cash will be gone, take the crate. Inside will be 6 bags of bread, 2 are 3 day old bread. Take the 3 day old bread its so damn tough it releases testosterone and you will get a penis >.>.
If you can break the bread, you are more manly than possible to describe

Joke aside (I try >.>)

Whats the big deal of having a male shirt?

If its like pants or something, I guess, but nothing wrong with girls wearing mens clothing really >.> ... its when men wear gears clothing that the red flag goes up.
There are some women clothing actually...kinda rare.
Also you could, buy a female White/black t-shirt at wal-mart(or whatever color the gw shirts are) then buy the male one, Cut out the design, and then heart it onto the black/white/grey shirt. Doesn't look wowing but its still decent >.>

For pants or anything else, I can't help you there.

Messy

Messy

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The European store sells a whole lot more merchandise than the US Store

It makes no sense to me, they would make soooooooo much money if the sold cool merchandise...

-hoodies for guys and gals... and kids
- T -shirts.... same, guys, gals, kids
- A GW LEATHER JACKET?? or Down Jacket?????? OMG!!
- jammies?
- Decals for the car... what better free advertisement for them?
- lighters
- coffee mugs
- stickers
- planners

name it... I'd buy it.... but posters???? I dunno... I'm gonna pass on that for now.

pamelf

pamelf

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Honestly, the only difference between a men's and a woman's is a slightly different cut of the sleves. Just buy a men's small.
Not quite. The necklines are different. So is shoulder width and length.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

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I want more designs, honestly. I guess getting sizes for women is appropriate, but I want more designs! The ability to put my character on a shirt doing whatever emote would be nice, too!

pamelf

pamelf

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Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Girls on the internet?... Pics or it didn't happen.


There you go. That's me. Now, can you imagine me ever wearing an oversized men's jumper out in public? I don't think so. I'm also not over a size 10, so there you go.

Phaern Majes

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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This thread makes me laugh... I fail to see why anyone is arguing about it. They SHOULD offer the sizes and style for both male and female. Plain and simple. Is going to kill any guy if all of a sudden they offer female versions of the shirt? Somehow I doubt it. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....................

pamelf

pamelf

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Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaern Majes
This thread makes me laugh... I fail to see why anyone is arguing about it. They SHOULD offer the sizes and style for both male and female. Plain and simple. Is going to kill any guy if all of a sudden they offer female versions of the shirt? Somehow I doubt it. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....................
Thanks man. Glad to hear someone agrees.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Guys, let me be honest with you: The merchandise in the Guild Wars Gear store is an experiment. We paid for all of it up front, and we just couldn't justify spending twice the cash for shirts at this early date. We have to confirm that the whole thing is a good idea; we have to dip our toes into the retail market carefully, because a lot of these sorts of ventures fail, leaving the company with unsold merchandise and a balance book that screams "red" on all its pages.

You know you can count on me to advocate for more sizes -- I already did. Thrice. But the fact is, we had to start somewhere, and this is just the beginning of what we hope will be a larger store with many more choices in the future.

And by the way, the Charr shirt is an American Products shirt; the Ladies of Tyria is a Hanes shirt. Our experience at the office is that the American Products are more snug, so if you're looking for a shirt and you're a petite person, or you're thinking of something for a younger person, consider the Charr shirt rather than the Ladies of Tyria shirt, if all things are equal in your minds as far as design.

Oh, also, the Gear Store is not seen by ArenaNet as a "profit center." We're viewing this as a way to offer options to those who would like to show their Guild Wars love. So again, we can't spent a ton getting another four sizes in two shorts, but that will come in the future, I am sure.

D??esseBrighid

D??esseBrighid

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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Pink Flying Flaming Donkeys Of [BoBo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
Can I experess my disappointment at Anet for making the only thing I would buy Merchandise-wise in the store in Men's sizes only? Seriously, the only clothing article that has an even slightly ok design, for the reason that it's minimalist, is the only thing that I'm not able to buy purely because of my gender.

Can you guys fix this? I don't think we should be excluded from purchasing from you guys just because we don't have penises. Thanks Anet. Fix Asap and you'll get some money from me. Because seriously, those other shirts are totally gross. That's right, the only thing a woman in her right mind WOULDN't buy, is the one thing you guys made in our sizing.
just because it's men's sizes doesn't mean you can't still buy it and wear it. If I could afford it I'd still buy one in men's small to wear... your gender has nothing to do with it.

Pjstaab

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Mo

Well you better be getting some new things in the store so I can get them for Christmas!

Sha Noran

Sha Noran

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Guys, let me be honest with you: The merchandise in the Guild Wars Gear store is an experiment. We paid for all of it up front, and we just couldn't justify spending twice the cash for shirts at this early date. We have to confirm that the whole thing is a good idea; we have to dip our toes into the retail market carefully, because a lot of these sorts of ventures fail, leaving the company with unsold merchandise and a balance book that screams "red" on all its pages.

You know you can count on me to advocate for more sizes -- I already did. Thrice. But the fact is, we had to start somewhere, and this is just the beginning of what we hope will be a larger store with many more choices in the future.

And by the way, the Charr shirt is an American Products shirt; the Ladies of Tyria is a Hanes shirt. Our experience at the office is that the American Products are more snug, so if you're looking for a shirt and you're a petite person, or you're thinking of something for a younger person, consider the Charr shirt rather than the Ladies of Tyria shirt, if all things are equal in your minds as far as design.

Oh, also, the Gear Store is not seen by ArenaNet as a "profit center." We're viewing this as a way to offer options to those who would like to show their Guild Wars love. So again, we can't spent a ton getting another four sizes in two shorts, but that will come in the future, I am sure.
Actual viable information from Gaile? I'm speechless. Thanks for your input.

De Wilde

De Wilde

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Slayers of Champions [SoC]

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Plus I never noticed if it stated men sizes only so one would be led to beleive that they're unisex, or labeled to be unisex. Just my opinion.

Though I'm more interested in getting the posters than anything.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Useful info, Gaile, and it'd be great if that kind of thing were noted in the shirt descriptions. Fit matters, especially when you're crossing gender lines in apparel.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf


There you go. That's me. Now, can you imagine me ever wearing an oversized men's jumper out in public? I don't think so. I'm also not over a size 10, so there you go.
obviously photo shopped : p
and i know plenty of girls who are very attractive who play games alot of them kick my ass at halo >_>

Skyy High

Skyy High

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Join Date: May 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon
We're talking about a shirt right? That's not the part of the body where you wear a shirt. At least, that's not the part of the body where I wear a shirt...
You sir, have made my night.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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team up with other company that sells t-shirt onliine, and you don't have to print the t-shirt up front yourself. plus if they do a competitions for a Threadless + Guild Wars T-shirt people can enter the competition, more people will wear Guild Wars t-shirt and its free advertising. maybe not free, probably need to negotiate a deal with them. but its better than stocking up on t-shirts that does not sell.

Just.nl

Just.nl

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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i've never looked so far xD i got female and male genders but never sawn that what u are talking about
gj that u say it for further problems

cyberjanet

cyberjanet

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Join Date: Feb 2007

The Netherlands

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The main problem with men's T shirts generally is that they have high necklines.

A high neckline sucks on anybody who has bigger than a B cup, because it makes the boobs look like a shapeless sausage. This makes the entire body look fat, whether it is or not. On a small cup size, the high neck helps create an illusion of boobs.

When you lower the neckline, the boobs take more shape. The lower the neckline, the better a large cup size looks.

Take a high necked T-shirt and a low cut one and give them to some of your female friends to model so you can see the effect. If you have no female friends then stop playing GW for a while and get out into a public place and do some observation, but please be discreet so you don't get arrested.

Men's T-shirts look great on flat-chested women. Put one on Jora and she'll look like a fat male norn.

The women who play GW ALL have D cups or larger, believe me. They also have long legs and narrow waists. Where do you think Anet got their female characters from if not the actual playerbase?

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Wait, when did the merchant start selling T-shirts?
Don't tell me I need to dish out ANOTHER 100k so that he'll start selling them in our GH!??!?

Greedy bloody bastards ....

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

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Thanks for that Gaile. It's good to know that the merch is currently under development and there may be changes. Well, just my two cents that I WILL buy a hoodie if they're available in women's sizes. So if they're ever made available you will have my business.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
team up with other company that sells t-shirt onliine, and you don't have to print the t-shirt up front yourself. plus if they do a competitions for a Threadless + Guild Wars T-shirt people can enter the competition, more people will wear Guild Wars t-shirt and its free advertising. maybe not free, probably need to negotiate a deal with them. but its better than stocking up on t-shirts that does not sell.
And Pumpkin Pie, that's a GREAT idea. Threadless is really popular. I myself own about 20 shirts from there. They're great advertising, and the shirts are always great. Maybe Anet might want to look into doing this. Usually all they have to do is set up some kind of competion. I.E. Threadless Loves Guild Wars... Prizes could be a free Platinum edition and maybe a Zboard. It would put more awareness out there, and that way we all get awesome t-shirts, as well as a chance to design our own...

What do you think Gaile? Is this something that You guys would consider? Website: www.threadless.com

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

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God This has become a stupid fashion topic

"it makes my boobs look like sausage"
"Well then don't wear that"
"That shirt doesn't go well with your A/B/C/D/E/F/G Cup Lamz0rs!"

Gaile has responded, time for a lock.

Because when someone starts asking

"does this t-shirt make me look fat"

We've reached a stalemate.

pamelf

pamelf

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

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Um, can I point out that making clothing as Merch is ALL ABOUT FASHION. I understand if you're male, but a lot of us are also female, and the things we buy are completely dependent on how they look. If they are unflattering on, then no female would buy them, thus Anet has lost money by making merch that no one is going to buy. Seriously, of COURSE it's about fashion.

There is no flaming going on in this thread, just discussion on possibilities for the future of merch. No one is going to buy anything that they won't wear, so this is still a viable topic. Just because YOU don't care what you look like in your clothes, doesnt' mean the rest of the world doesn't.

Yakumo

Yakumo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dunky_g
whats a girl?
A Guy In Real Life.

freekedoutfish

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
Can I experess my disappointment at Anet for making the only thing I would buy Merchandise-wise in the store in Men's sizes only? Seriously, the only clothing article that has an even slightly ok design, for the reason that it's minimalist, is the only thing that I'm not able to buy purely because of my gender.

Can you guys fix this? I don't think we should be excluded from purchasing from you guys just because we don't have penises. Thanks Anet. Fix Asap and you'll get some money from me. Because seriously, those other shirts are totally gross. That's right, the only thing a woman in her right mind WOULDN't buy, is the one thing you guys made in our sizing.
Try being male and knowing none of the hoodies or clothes merchandise will fit you! Anet has done what all companies do and assumed that all men are 6 foot tall and built like brick sh*t houses.

For the record Anet im 5ft 5 and I have a very slim build for a 25 year old. Your size small would be HUGE on me. You do appreciate that there are men in the world who are an XS?

It isnt just women who are expected to fit this ideal size when they go shopping. Men are expected to fit into this ideal "tall dark stranger" ideal who are built like rugby players.

Honestly Pamelf, you should try being a short and slim dude. Its absolute murder trying to find clothes to fit you because every store doesnt have a clue what a size small is.

I can only buy clothes from those few places which sell either an XS or XXS! Atleast as a women, you would get away from wearing a big baggy hoody because tts kinda hot!

But try being a skinny bloke wearing a hoody thats too big for you and you look lame. Especially when you from the North East of england and there is a stereotype that all blokes up here are meant to be "hard".

Anyway I agree! Online stores should have more realistic sizes for clothes. Not just for women, but for men too. Offer XS sizes, so im not paying an extortionate price for something that wont ever fit.




Actually we are talking about the online merchandise like hoodies? or are we talking actual ingame merchants?

Its a bit confusing!

Ben-A-BoO

Ben-A-BoO

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakumo
A Guy In Real Life.
ROFLMAO
That made my day

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

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Heh im a skinny dude >.> Skinny clothes are hard to find
So everything I war is baggy.

But im not short so it works out for me freeked.

So your skinny and short?

william1975

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expansion of the merchandise would be great, but I think what Gaile said is true best to dip your toe in the water then and see if its ok to go further.

Nice pic pamelf, but then it may nto necessarily be you a more reliable pic would be one of you playing GW with your character on screen.

My wife would love some of the stuff in store, she particularly likes the Charr top. Personally I'd love some statues in it, ones by Brom would be great

pamelf

pamelf

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Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by william1975
expansion of the merchandise would be great, but I think what Gaile said is true best to dip your toe in the water then and see if its ok to go further.

Nice pic pamelf, but then it may nto necessarily be you a more reliable pic would be one of you playing GW with your character on screen.

My wife would love some of the stuff in store, she particularly likes the Charr top. Personally I'd love some statues in it, ones by Brom would be great
Lol, there you go. My ex picked her for me because she looks like me. :P Except i have a waistline that actually allows me not to break in half when i get out of bed in the morning, and a neck that means I can actually hold my head upright without a broken spine.

Prof Of Black

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakumo
A Guy In Real Life.
HAHAHAHA

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Issac

Issac

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Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Eh? What's the problem?

Most females who play GW have men's sizes, or give it as a gift to their husbands.
You just straight out said it huh LOL.

Unkillable Cat

Unkillable Cat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

New Dragons

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Most of the women gamers I know are no larger than a UK 12-14 (US 8-10) and since in the UK plus sizes start at 16 (12) calling them man size is a hell of an overstatement since a UK 14 is 38" bust/chest and 30" waist I mean hell Im a skinny guy and my measurements are a fair bit larger than that. Diddnt include hips snce most (none transgender) men dont have them. Also as someone else mentioned earlier the cut of the sleeve is important to match the contours of the bust, not to mention the fact that most women prefer a fitted shirt over the tents us blokes wear.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
Heh im a skinny dude >.> Skinny clothes are hard to find
So everything I war is baggy.

But im not short so it works out for me freeked.

So your skinny and short?
Unfortunetly I am indeed! My photos are always missleading. Its absolute murder to find tops to fit me in the north east.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Pamelf, your char looks like a freaking giraffe with that neck! Shame that model got through. Your actual pic looks great. Excellent background, and very good posing.

I'd really like the Charr shirt, too, but I fear it'd be too long and ruin the nice printing, by being all crumpled. Well, hopefully better sizes and cheaper prices will be implemented at some point. As it is, I'm taking a pass for now.

Raiin Maker

Raiin Maker

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Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

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Anyone know if the Charr shirt can be shipped to the UK?

Its obviously one of the best shirts i've seen in a while, and is far better than all the european ones put together. I've bought several shirts from the US, but from a diffrent company.