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Rubicon83

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Marked Of The Oni

N/R

21 Nov 2007 at 19:10 - 1

I just love to start up this debate in ascalon city ^^
Basically, whenever i ask the question, i ALWAYS get an equal amount of preference for both.
I ask "in your oppinion, what is better, greens or golds?"
some say "green" and then someone say "gold" and the other guy goes "GREEN", and then someone says "gold is buffed n better" after which someone replies "greens are rarer and better looking".... and so on..

I would really like to get the record set straight...
I mean, I know white is everyday stuff, and then commes slightly better blue, then interesing purple... and then?? green, gold (best) ... or gold, green (best) ...???

For the record, i have found and identified 4 golds and not ONE green, which tells me that greens are, in fact, more rare. but are they more valuable? better stats??? ...

Someone, please set the record straight... how is it supposed to go??

Rothaga

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

D/W

21 Nov 2007 at 19:17 - 2

Greens will drop with perfect mods on them, if you are not on the beginning islands in nightfall or factions (not sure about Proph), and they only drop from bosses. Golds will drop from almost any monster, but will not have perfect mods. If you check out wiki, you can find a list of all greens and who drops em. Golds seem to come in more skins though. It really depends on the skin you want, there is no "better" one.

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

E/

21 Nov 2007 at 19:18 - 3

Greens drop only from bosses and have always perfect stats (unless starting island green) and unique name.
Golds drop randomly with random mods. Golds are customiseable and greens are not. Golds can have lower req than greens, but its usually higher.

E: You were faster

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

21 Nov 2007 at 19:19 - 4

Greens are rarer than golds in that only bosses can drop greens, however, that doesn't mean that greens are better than golds (or purples for that matter). The best weapon is the weapon that works the best with your current build. For example, Ghial's Staff, a fairly nice staff for an MM, but not that good for a blood necro. If you have a weapon that you like and you think works well with your build, who gives a crap what others think, it's your character, your build, your weapon, they have no say in any of that, unless you let them.

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

21 Nov 2007 at 19:38 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Targuil

Greens drop only from bosses and have always perfect stats (unless starting island green) and unique name.
Golds drop randomly with random mods. Golds are customiseable and greens are not. Golds can have lower req than greens, but its usually higher.

E: You were faster

Yes they are

Quentin.Sheley

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Fort Bragg

X Knock Out X [KO]

21 Nov 2007 at 20:42 - 6

This is indeed a debatable question. What it boils down to is looks. Greens are yes better but gold can have the same or better mods (lower req) and have an awesome skin that you want. What I mean is, if you want something rad like a crystalline sword, no boss drops this so you have to get it from a gold/purple item, but then you're risking price and availability because gold are rarer than greens.

My final though is that Golds are better because they're customizable and you can get what skin you like.

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

21 Nov 2007 at 20:48 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keithark

Yes they are

He was referring to changing mods/colour, not the +20% dmg.

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

E/

21 Nov 2007 at 20:49 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keithark

Yes they are

There may be few exceptions...

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

21 Nov 2007 at 21:52 - 9

Golds are better because, if you so choose, you can change the mods. Say you have an armor +7 mod and you want to switch it out, you can. If it was a green weapon you are stuck with the +7 mod.

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

21 Nov 2007 at 22:01 - 10

Greens are always perfect (except the noob ones) great for Heroes and for the person that just wants to play the game and not worry about finding components and wasting a lot of gold etc… You can kill the boss that carriers it over and over and over till it drops. It will drop sometime for you if you do it enough

Golds- (90% of golds are considered crap by collectors) This is the hunt for the perfect Item. It is this that drives the collector the rarity. You also can change what you have.
Rarity of certain skins mixed with the rarity of requirements compile to very rare item. Also chests/monster are Random drops from chests. You never know if you will get one

In short

Green – kill boss that has it over and over and you will get it sometime. Rare but anyone can do it

Gold – Open chests or kill monsters totally random drop falls. You could get purple or you could get a gold. You get gold to drop X Skin style X REQ + Mods = Priceless Gold Item Acquired

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

21 Nov 2007 at 22:01 - 11

I prefer using greens on my characters. The reason: cheaper perfect mods and cool skins.

If/when I manage to get rich I will get rare skinned golds. Until then, I'll just sell 'em and buy other, more important things for my characters.

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

21 Nov 2007 at 22:50 - 12

Pick the stats you want in your weapon. Pick the skin you want. If there is a green that matches that, then the cheapest one is better.

If there isn't a green that matches the skin and stats, then the golds are the only option. Well, you might get to chose blues and purples if your talking about an inscribable skin.

Rubicon83

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Marked Of The Oni

N/R

21 Nov 2007 at 23:05 - 13

thx for all the answers guys

i was just wondering, i have heard people mention stuff like diamonds and onyx too. what are these? are they yet another class of raritees or something completely different?

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

21 Nov 2007 at 23:15 - 14

Golds for "proper" stat weapons that you use alot

Greens for those werid gimmicks

Diamonds and onyx are crafting materials used destroyer weapons

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

22 Nov 2007 at 00:22 - 15

Diomonds and onyx and stuff are actual items. Think of them as very rare, expensive pieces of cloth/iron.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

22 Nov 2007 at 00:40 - 16

Ok well

Golds have the potential to be "better" than greens since they can be fully modded, dyed, and inscribed. (this is the only reason since its adjustable)

Greens come perfect and use rare or semi common skins(not including those presearing items). But they can't be modded.

Really its an ambiguous argument. Golds can drop unmaxed and with cruddy mods. In this case Greens would win. But at the same time a maxed gold with nonperfect mods drops. You can mod the gold to suit your needs and it can be better than a green. The thing with greens is that if you want a "specific" thing you just have to hope you are lucky and GW has already come up with that weapon.

Heres a great personal example:

For my dervish i wanted a nice skinned scythe with 15^enchanted zealous mod and +20 health mod. I looked up scythes on guildwiki and came up with no matches, closest was a 15^50 with those. So in the end I bought a saurian scythe, stuck those individual mods and boom its better than the greens cause it fits my own needs.

Things like skins and req also matter. So purples or blues could potentially have the same skin and you can just mod it.

EDIT: diamonds and onyx are soley used for destroyer weapons as of this point.

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

22 Nov 2007 at 03:06 - 17

Most people are like:

Gold Weapon: Wow man cool you can afford some nice weapons there /bow

Green Weapon: Meh Dude, even my mother can afford that.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

22 Nov 2007 at 03:12 - 18

Golds and greens of the exact same stats are equal. The color of an item doesn't affect its strength.

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

22 Nov 2007 at 03:22 - 19

*didn't bother reading above posts, just the first*

For my first year or so of playing, I always believed greens were better. Now I understand that golds are much much better. The amount of useful stats on greens has been left out. For example, there aren't any +10 vs species shields except for vs demons, and only one vs element for one requirement type [NF endgame Forgotten Shields] while there are many many repeats of +30 -5/20%.

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

22 Nov 2007 at 04:23 - 20

Golds. Way more better skins with Golds rather than Greens.

(i.e., Chaos Axe.)

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

22 Nov 2007 at 04:35 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilateralrope

Pick the stats you want in your weapon. Pick the skin you want. If there is a green that matches that, then the cheapest one is better.

This post is the straightest answer there is. Greens were added to give flavor and more personality to the game, and they are separate from the "white -> blue -> purple -> gold" hierarchy.

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

22 Nov 2007 at 04:37 - 22

golds can have better skins, and useful mods, and changeable mods.

greens are just cheap

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

N/

22 Nov 2007 at 04:38 - 23

Golds are random, and Greens are predictable in every facet.

Greens come in a specific skin, with specific mobs and drop from specific Bosses. Max greens are always r9. If you want that skin with that mod, you know exactly where to get it.

Golds come in a variety of skins depending on your location, drop with a huge variety of mods, and have a wide range of requirements.

So all the abovementioned posts about being able to configure the mods you want to the skins you want is what makes Gold different from Greens.

Prophesies and Faction Golds that are not inscribable but have perfect popular mods and sought after skins, are way rarer than Greens.

I would not consider Greens "rare" because they are completely predictable. You know who drops it, farm it long enough and its yours.

Thats why Greens will never get to the heady heights of 100k + ectos. A lot of Greens can be gotten at 5k, cheaper than at Weaponsmiths' (if you count in the materials).

Musei Karasu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Mo/

22 Nov 2007 at 05:07 - 24

But not all greens are replicable. Take the Kenshi Butterfly Daggers. You can't make that item, nor can you create that skin no matter how much you search. Kenshi is the only person who will give it to you. Making greens still have their value.

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

22 Nov 2007 at 06:29 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musei Karasu

But not all greens are replicable. Take the Kenshi Butterfly Daggers. You can't make that item, nor can you create that skin no matter how much you search. Kenshi is the only person who will give it to you. Making greens still have their value.

These daggers use the Butterfly Knives skin dyed green.

The fact that they aren't inscribable doesn't mean you can't find a replica.

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

22 Nov 2007 at 07:38 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musei Karasu

But not all greens are replicable. Take the Kenshi Butterfly Daggers. You can't make that item, nor can you create that skin no matter how much you search. Kenshi is the only person who will give it to you. Making greens still have their value.

Yes, if the skin you want is only on a green weapon then the green is the better choice because its the only choice.

Though if Zeek Aran is right about reproducing the skin (I'm not going to check) then you picked a bad example because the weapon is fully reproducible, you just need to get lucky on the 15/-5 inherent mod. Urgoz's Longbow is a much better example of a green that can't be reproduced.

viens87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Riga

SCAR

Me/

22 Nov 2007 at 07:52 - 27

pff ..

Green its only by self better , but blue u can buy in Factions traders and do what ever u want , put staf heads +5nrg , +30hp and ur weapon looks like normal green weapon , with skin 2 ..

second , gold weapons is for tittle too

then green realy not the best

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

22 Nov 2007 at 08:04 - 28

Greens are the poor man's gold weapons.

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

22 Nov 2007 at 08:11 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilateralrope

Yes, if the skin you want is only on a green weapon then the green is the better choice because its the only choice.

Though if Zeek Aran is right about reproducing the skin (I'm not going to check) then you picked a bad example because the weapon is fully reproducible, you just need to get lucky on the 15/-5 inherent mod. Urgoz's Longbow is a much better example of a green that can't be reproduced.

Drago's is actually the best example I would say. :3

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

22 Nov 2007 at 10:10 - 30

Quote:

Greens are the poor man's gold weapons.

I have to agree on that one.
Green items are far more common given their stats (always req 9 (shiro's still exception?) with perfect mods) than gold items.
Specially on skins that are not easily farmed.

Cargan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Scotland

[ESP]

W/

22 Nov 2007 at 13:03 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

Greens are the poor man's gold weapons.

QFT.

given the choice of a green weapon, or a gold weapon with identical stats and skin, only the most inexperienced players would choose the green because they somehow have the dellusion that green is better. Why would anyone choose the weapon that is least customizable?

Want a weapon with specific stats? you'd be stuck with the choice of one or two green weapon skins that have the stats, or any skin for a gold weapon.

Still, I wouldn't totally disregard greens. Some are still nice and a cheap way to get a nice skin. Murakai's Blade vs. a req.9 Runic Blade is a good example of this.

Hit and Run

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Coaliltion X

A/R

22 Nov 2007 at 15:10 - 32

i like gold (only reason really is that i use one)

ive never used a green, yet i own one, just that it's not for my class

it is a monk's staff while im an assassain