HM Spectral Vaettir

CE Devilman

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

hell

Do U Trust Anet

N/Mo

22 Nov 2007 at 00:29 - 1

drops are good...

build: OgFVgyEzGZWDS6Tb4rivQpYHsbQrCA

link

if U are 2 the drops are way better..!

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(update)
9 air 16 earth 6 energy 9 axe 1 tactics

skill 1-2-3 glyph of swifness-obsidian flesh-stoneflesh aura
keep up glyph of swifness + obsidian flesh and stoneflesh aura

skill 4-5-6 bonetti´s defense - clyclone axe - whirlwind attack
clyclone axe + bonetti´s defense = full energy bar
the way to use it : clyclone axe + whirlwind attack + bonetti´s defense..

skill 7-8 conjure lighting - storm haste

no conjure lighting: link
add in conjure lighting:link

time to hunt...
1 run U way to the portal (storm haste)
2 take the norn blessing
3 stack the first 30-35 Spectral Vaettir map stack 1
4 take on the next stack. 25-30 Spectral Vaettir

tip: the will try to bodyblock U so keep em on U back
U can use storm haste to speed up U stacking
(clyclone axe + bonetti´s defense = full energy bar if U run low on the way)

now i need pie...pie

btw if U bring a smitter monk U got a dmg up to 50+
monk build: OwcT44H/nZeIPCJ0E9RKxlNBBA
ele axe build: OgFUgyEzGZSSfaDfV0C8VKF7gdDA

and a way to take all to near-dead and kill em 1 by 1 to get better drops.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

22 Nov 2007 at 00:46 - 2

It would help if you posted attributes and your strategy.

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

22 Nov 2007 at 00:59 - 3

Dualin kind of sux, why not solo? and how long does a run take you guys?

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

22 Nov 2007 at 01:05 - 4

Woah...that's quite a lot of drops.

tox_169

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Auckland, New Zealand

22 Nov 2007 at 02:24 - 5

Yes please, a brief description of how to do it would help. (the solo build is an ele, yes? am at work now so I couldn't check the template)

My friend and I are considering giving 100 glacial stones as a present for a mutual friend. This would be a welcome change (and more profitable, I see) from going touch rangers again. I've got my glacial gloves already but my friend hasn't yet, as well as getting those stones for that surprise gift we planned for our mutual friend

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

22 Nov 2007 at 03:30 - 6

How do you break aggro when running there in HM without Dash?

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

22 Nov 2007 at 05:04 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marverick

How do you break aggro when running there in HM without Dash? You can outrun something just from the sheer distance traveled

okashii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

22 Nov 2007 at 05:04 - 8

why conjure lightning when vaettirs have 160armor vs. elemental dmg ?

tox_169

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Auckland, New Zealand

22 Nov 2007 at 06:47 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by okashii

why conjure lightning when vaettirs have 160armor vs. elemental dmg ? Good question. Maybe because the OP used several Air Magic spells and figured the Conjure can add more damage?

But despite the vaettirs' armor, he's been successful well enough, looking at his screenshots.

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

22 Nov 2007 at 09:32 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

Dualin kind of sux, why not solo? and how long does a run take you guys? Some people, including me, prefer dualing over solo, imo it's much more fun. It takes 6-7 minutes per run if you solo

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

22 Nov 2007 at 12:23 - 11

Well, since I don't have a monk/ele/anything there except my Ranger, would something like this work ?

Hero Bonder (Life Barrier - Life bond - Mending - Holy veil with 16 Prot and enough Healing to get mending to +3).
Me as a Ranger. Either toucher with Melandru's resilience or R/E with Obby flesh and Sliver armor ?

Or of course, a human bonder.

It would be more profitable than NM solo toucher, since there are 60 there in HM, and even if the hero "steals" 50% of the drops, that's still 30 Vaettirs that drop only for me

Zodiak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Gatineau, Qc, Canada

Kiss of Anguish [KISS]

P/W

22 Nov 2007 at 13:23 - 12

Aslong as you have energy management and do not kill them all at the same time (because of massive loot scaling) you should be fine with a bonder if you can keep Obsidian Flesh up all the time.

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

22 Nov 2007 at 14:47 - 13

So R/E with Obsidian Flesh and Sliver Armor (and anything else I can think of, but no AoE, right ? Isn't Sliver AoE?) And Life Barried, Life Bond and Balthazar's Spirit on the bonder so I can keep my energy up.

I'll experiment with making Tahlk (my experiment hero) a Mo/R and putting her with 16 Prot and 12 WS and give her QZ. Combined with SQ I shouldn't have problems with Obsidian Flesh downtime.

philo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

23 Nov 2007 at 11:24 - 14

Very original build

Has it, by any chance, been tested on HM windriders outside Rata Sum yet? Could work well there, I guess.

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

23 Nov 2007 at 11:55 - 15

I can't get it to work right, unfortunately. And it's just too long a run to keep trying.

[skill]Glyph of Swiftness[/skill] isn't enough to keep [skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill] up all the time. I tried [skill]Serpent's Quickness[/skill]+[skill]Glyph of Elemental Power[/skill] and had better results, but there still is a time when [skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill] will be down, exposing you to hexes. Putting [skill]Quickening Zephyr[/skill] on the bonder at 12WS works pretty well, but I suck at micro-ing and there still is a downtime between castings of [skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill] after QZ goes down.

As a toucher, you don't rake much damage, but you don't do much either. and since they're always in huge mobs, they'll just go away and Ether Feast themselves to full health before engaging you again.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

23 Nov 2007 at 17:01 - 16

Glyph of Swiftness should be keeping obs flesh up indefinitely. Remember that you need 16 earth magic and a 20% ench mod.

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

23 Nov 2007 at 17:52 - 17

See the part where I say I'm a R/E?

That's why it doesn't work right

I'm gonna make an ele sometime and level it, but I can't be bothered now.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

23 Nov 2007 at 20:46 - 18

Ahh, missed your previous post.

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

23 Nov 2007 at 21:37 - 19

I am thinking of digging my Ele out of the moth balls to try this has anyone besides the OP got this to work?

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

23 Nov 2007 at 23:50 - 20

Thanks a lot for the spot

stef247

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

28 Dec 2007 at 18:14 - 21

Krye Dimag

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Souls of Torment [RIP]

28 Dec 2007 at 18:28 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by stef247

Hey guys,

I gave this run a try in HM with my Ele today, I already did that farm with my monk in NM...I got a problem: Aggroing the Vaettirs, I often take 1-2 dmg per hit which kills me very quickly..I tried to leave out Haste and replaced it with Armor of Earth but when I try to get there with a Hench party we always get wiped..
Since no1 other is apparently having that problem, could you imagine what I'm doing wrong? Dude,

PM me IG tonight (friday dec. 28th) between 9pm -12am CST and I'll show you what builds I have been using and continually modifing for the best results and how to get there w/o using any running modifiers and a build w/ one.

IGN ===> Krye Dimag

And the thing I can see you are doing wrong is bringing the H/H's. Go completely by yourself.

stef247

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

28 Dec 2007 at 19:23 - 23

hey mate,

thanks for offering me some support

unfortunately, I don't have any time now b/c I'm invited somewhere..(GMT+1^^)

I will add you to my FL, you could maybe add me (Julie The Graceful)

and hopefully we'll find a time^^

But to the H&Hs: I flag them out before I aggro^^

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

28 Dec 2007 at 19:45 - 24

This build is similar to one I run, but I run Stoneflesh Aura, Obsidian Flesh, Mantra of Earth, Glyph of Swiftness, Sliver Armor, Tenai's Crystals, Crystal Wave, and initially when I wasnt as good at it, I had Armor of Earth, but you can substitute out a run, to get you through Jaga Moraine, or I put another damage skill, in like Light of Deldrimor. You are able to keep up Obs flesh and Stoneflesh at all times with Glyph of Swiftness and also a +20% modded weapon. At that point, you can aggro every single Spectral in the area in HM and easily slap them, typically I take the group in 1/2, 36 on the right side and the 24 on the left. Great great drops, and you can just keep rezoning to keep it up for a while. Farm nerf does slow it down, it was alot of fun when I started it and got the Honeycomb and Hunter's Ale drops

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

28 Dec 2007 at 21:00 - 25

Nice Build. Need to get my Ele with right skills. But i have Question could a War/E do it also and How much Norn Faction you get?

UnKn0wN415

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bay Area

Looking 4 PvP Guild!

28 Dec 2007 at 22:12 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by stef247

CE Devilman

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

hell

Do U Trust Anet

N/Mo

28 Dec 2007 at 23:36 - 27

ops...must be U armor..
I got +10 vs Ele.dmg +10 vs earth dmg and +10 more from the forcus.

Build:
OgFVgyEzmZWDS6Tb4rivQpYHsbQrCA

stef247

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

29 Dec 2007 at 14:43 - 28

alright^^ so it may be caused by my armor...hopefully I just gotta get some insignias on my armor but thatd be crap b/c its all with radiants :x

well, and I spent like 10k on crafting the weps but I guess I'll have to customize my armor too

EDIT: Hey, I applied Geomancer Insignias both on my Chest and Leggins, and now it's running great..nice drops, got 5 lockpicks, like 50 glacial stones, black dye and lots of golds so far!
Thanks for the build and the support!

Amazing Stroopwafel

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

02 Jan 2008 at 23:02 - 29

Hey,

I realy liked your build since it is much faster than soloing with the E/Me build and becouse a monk can't farm vaetir HM

However I've found some skill unnececary (especialy on the monk who only has 2 functional skills) so I made some adjustments for even quicker runs
first the ele:
[skill]glyph of swiftness[/skill][skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill][skill]obsidian flesh[/skill][skill]I am the strongest[/skill][skill]whirlwind attack[/skill][skill]cyclone axe[/skill][skill]flail[/skill][skill]conjure lightning[/skill]
16 earth
9 air
9 axe

but now, The monk

:
[skill]Strength of Honor[/skill][skill]balthazar's spirit[/skill][skill]mindblender[/skill][skill]spell breaker[/skill][skill]balthazar's aura[/skill][skill]ebon escape[/skill][skill]symbol of wrath[/skill][skill]blessed signet[/skill]
smite 16
divine 13

the ele is played as normal but the monk is a lot more fun now,
just use mindblender to run to jaga moraine, cast strength and balt spirit on the ele and let him aggro the mobs. go stand on the edge of their aggro
wait till the mobs are down to 1/3th - 1/4th of their health, then cast mindblender - spell breaker - balthazar's aura, shadowstep to you ele with ebon escape and hit symbol of wrath

et voila

(some1 should fix those pve skills >.>

)

Lord Zion

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

28 Jul 2008 at 21:23 - 30

DarkSpirit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Redmond

28 Jul 2008 at 22:54 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior

Some people, including me, prefer dualing over solo, imo it's much more fun. It takes 6-7 minutes per run if you solo Plus the fact that I have access to 2 accounts. I use the 600/smite build successfully on them since the smiter just needs to cast enchants and go afk. It is also safer with 2 characters.

Lord Zion

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

29 Jul 2008 at 13:07 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Zion

Hmmm interesting, im at work now so i cant try it now but this build give me an idea:

Fiery axe haft

[Fire ele;OgFlUFJsUqkMDJ9pN8VxXoU4LYLUWB]

You would have the (axe+conjure)+(flame djinn)+(burning from MoR)

This should make it go faster... i will try it when i get home. Yeah i was right, i tried both build and with fire they die way faster, i tweaked the build and this is what im using:

[Fire ele;OgFlUFJsUyMKJJ9pN8VZLoUsDyX4LA]

Yeah no running skills, dont really need it. I prefer to have more damage and (conjure+Whirlwind Attack) > (flame djinn)

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

29 Jul 2008 at 22:04 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amazing Stroopwafel

[skill]mindblender[/skill]
just use mindblender to run to jaga moraine,
(some1 should fix those pve skills >.>

) what, you mean this pve skill? [mindbender]. look closely at the name