Is it just me?

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Has anyone noticed that the alliance battles seem to be at Grenz Frontier 70% of the time? IIRC it was in Kurzick lands last Sunday to Tuesday, it was in Luxon lands yesterday, and today it's back in Grenz.

By the way, while I've got this little thread on the alliance battle maps open... what determines when the line is pushed?

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

This may or may not answer your question. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Alliance_Battle

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Mmmm... not quite. It didn't have anything on what determines when the line moves, and when towns are taken. I know a good bit about ABs (I've written a guide to them on youtube, in fact) but it's the mechanics behind them I don't know.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

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HFFF/FFF's decide how the line goes, if the line is right infront of the Stairs (a location needed to visit for HFFF/FFF) all the Kurzick faction farmers go mad and start ABing to push the line back, if the line goes further into Kurzick territory they can't be bothered, their safely in HzH, Altriumm, Tanglewood and Amatz anyway.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

*Scratches head*

Err... so winning ABs makes it go deeper into the other territory?

Yol

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
*Scratches head*

Err... so winning ABs makes it go deeper into the other territory?
That's how it's supposed to work. If the kurzicks win lots of AB, the line goes into luxon territory. The maps, however, start to favour the home side, so the kurzicks start losing the battles and the line moves back into kurzick territory.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Actually, someone told me that it went on a "timer." The line would shift every hour, so that the game would spend an equal amount of time in each map...

So he's wrong? :P

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

He is. I can't believe you've done all those amounts of ABs without knowing that :P

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Earth X
He is. I can't believe you've done all those amounts of ABs without knowing that :P
Well, I've found that neither of them seem to be correct to be truthful...

(Off topic: Mini? Is that you? o.o)

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Every hour its updated.

All the win's scored during that hour are recorded and then the map is changed or retained depending on the scores .

So if its 1: 00 and kurzicks get 54 wins and luxons get 12 wins at saltspray beach

at 2;00 the map updates and the map becomes eteran keys.

But for some reason, The two fortress's never appear anymore.

At the beginning of Ab's life span you would see Ancestral lands and Kanaai canyon more.

>.> Its a bug I think

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

It was Kaanai on Wednesday around 6-8 PM Eastern... But yeah, we seem to forever be in Grenz and TBH it's kind of annoying =)

guppychk

guppychk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

Germany

The Power of Dragons [TpoD]

Me/Mo

the border moves every 3 hours (it SHOULD but if the kurzick dont win, it will go deeper into their land). If you are waiting for a special map (e.g. Salt) you sometimes have to wait up to 15 or 18 hours. Iam a Kurzick but i often have Luxon Guest Invitations, because they win even in ancestral lands...

-guppy

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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It's because Kurzicks go FFF on the run, while Luxons AB because they don't know that Luxons too, have a FFF run.

:P

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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Yep I've noticed this a lot. It seems we're rarely in Luxon territory, mostly Grenz Frontier. And it really bites because of the home advantage thing. At least, it bites if you're a Luxon. And we're hardly in the far deep Jade Sea so I don't even know that map, and hardly know Etnaran Keys. Of course I was Kurzick but then I turned Luxon. hehe

creelie

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

You should know, Luxons who win in Grenz Frontier get bonus faction - called the "underdog bonus".

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
It's because Kurzicks go FFF on the run, while Luxons AB because they don't know that Luxons too, have a FFF run.

:P
But the Luxon FFF cant be done with heros.
ON topic, i am not sure what makes the map update but i know it doesnt update every hour.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by creelie
You should know, Luxons who win in Grenz Frontier get bonus faction - called the "underdog bonus".
Well that much I know, I was pretty much overjoyed when it was announced...

But 2 times 100 is still 200, sadly.

darkdreamr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

beyond the yellow brick road

She Left With Half My [GeAr]

Me/

Like someone says, it's based on the alliance battle wins in the past 3 hours. It all gets plugged into some formula which determines which outposts get taken over and where the line actually is.

reddswitch

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

It's not based on one hour's wins maybe three. I have been on non-stop winning teams for five hours and the map moves deeper in instead of going out. It's not just my team but I hear a lot of other teams boasting every time I return from an AB.

Darkhell153

Darkhell153

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

right behind you

Highlander Honor Guard [HHnr]

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The reason that's it's been stuck in grenz frontier so long is because the kurzicks haven't been winning or losing more then the luxons. If both sides are pushing at the same time to pull off a win and push the line back then it could stay in that territory for quite some time (I've been on a few times where it stayed in Grenz for a grand total of 6 hours, it took about 10 mins to get into one battle!!!!! xD)

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
Well that much I know, I was pretty much overjoyed when it was announced...

But 2 times 100 is still 200, sadly.
With a team like that you wouldnt win on Kanaai anyways.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

It is based on a three hour timer depending on how much each side has won.

Earth

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
Well, I've found that neither of them seem to be correct to be truthful...

(Off topic: Mini? Is that you? o.o)
(Off topic: Yeah :P)

On topic: Is there anything more to say? Except that anonymous is probably right...

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

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as far as i know, the map updates every 3 hours,

if kurzick win more wins the go further into luxon and vica versa, so more wins by kurzicks in ab means more towns that kurzicks own at that time. (as they get luxon towns then as they're in the luxon area)

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

in my experience it is also largely more kurzick territory than luxon also.

i believe it is because the more experienced kurzick players go straight to FFFing if it touches luxon lands on the maps, as it is far faster for them. so a large number of the more experienced players aren't on the AB field so luxon tend to win more and it go's back to grenz/ancestral pretty sharpish.

this isnt as prevailent for luxons, since most don't even know there's a luxon FFF and secondly its pretty bad.

but i'm not complaining, ancestral lands = luxon FFFing.

my 2 cents