3 New 'Elite' heroes

Drakken Breathes Fire

Drakken Breathes Fire

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

They May Be Dead [DEAD]

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I think it'd be neat to have 3 new heroes added to Guild Wars.
(Before you decide; hear me out first.)
1 New hero per chapter.
2 *MUST* have completed that chapter on both Normal and Hardmode.
3 *MUST* complete an elite level quest to obtain, kind've like Razah. (Just so it's not a complete joke to add them, given who these heroes will be.)
4 Must have a copy of Nightfall or EoTN (obviously)
5) These heroes wont have changeable armor. (Some of you see this as a downside, but when you see the type of 'elite' heroes I'm suggesting, it wont bug you so much.)

Possible ideas?

Prophecies; Evennia, Adelbern (yes, King Adelbern), Farrah Cappo, A 'Forgotten' ect. (Monk or Warrior. A female warrior who isn't a giant? Neat. A Monk who isn't an ugly old man or Dwarf to go along with Tahlkora? Neat.)

Factions; A Tengu//Yeti of some sort. (Any possible profession, most likely Warrior//Assassin//Ect.)

Nightfall; Palawa Joko (c'mon he helps you out through an entire area of Nightfall and then just vanishes until GW2.)

The neat thing about these heroes? They're all unique characters right out of the story, either by quests or missions and cutscenes. UNLIKE Nightfall, where you need certain heroes to do certian quests missions, they're were already there and already part of the story.

Suggestions//criticism?

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Pretty sure if anything, they're going to add to professions where there's only 2 of them (like mesmer and the 4 expansion chars). I'd love to see a female ele though, as awesome as Vekk is.

Drakken Breathes Fire

Drakken Breathes Fire

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

They May Be Dead [DEAD]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Pretty sure if anything, they're going to add to professions where there's only 2 of them (like mesmer and the 4 expansion chars). I'd love to see a female ele though, as awesome as Vekk is.
Like, for example, Aziure?

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Since you can only use three at a time, I just can't see the point in having 28. Then again, I don't see the point in having 25 either.

thedeadlyassassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tualatin OR

N/A

A/W

/signed as long as you can't use them in HB, and as long as they aren't actually elite (aka have better armor, health, energy, attack dmg.. ect ect then they are suppose to)

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Pretty sure if anything, they're going to add to professions where there's only 2 of them (like mesmer and the 4 expansion chars). I'd love to see a female ele though, as awesome as Vekk is.
I'd like to forget that the stupid Asurans were added to the game.

Any new options that make me forget some of the stupidity in this game, I am all for. I want a Tengu hero, damn it.

Oh, and in case you weren't able to tell whether or not I am for this because I didn't type "/signed" because I am not awesome enough to use ingame emotes on a forum: signed.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

I just dont see the need for any more heroes honestly. Have enough of every class to run just about any combination of three we might need. No harm in it though.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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I'd like to have three of every class, is all. An extra dervish, assassin, ritualist, paragon, and mesmer.

Also, a hero organizer. How about they go in order of Profession, rather than...well in the jumbled up order they're in.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

/unsigned. Would promote far too much elitism.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
I'd like to have three of every class, is all. An extra dervish, assassin, ritualist, paragon, and mesmer.
/signed for that. I'd like a Tengu hero. A Canthan would be nice too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
Also, a hero organizer. How about they go in order of Profession, rather than...well in the jumbled up order they're in.
Use the party search hero tab. That sort of helps.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Use the party search hero tab. That sort of helps.
That's actually the one I use. Still hard to locate things...I wish it was in Profession order.

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
/unsigned. Would promote far too much elitism.
Who the hell brags about their heroes? They're just glorified henchies you can customize.

It's also a pretty stupid excuse considering that you have to beat Nightfall to obtain Razah. Maybe people would have bragged before when he was ten times harder to aquire, but no one gives a crap nowadays. People are gonna be elitist pricks no matter what they have. Not doing something cool just because some jackass might be a dick about it is retarded. It's a stupid thing to be elitist about considering how easy it is to steamroll PvE.

I'm all for rounding up the last third for the remaining classes, if only for the sake of rounding them all up evenly.

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

Maybe just replace the models of the wierd ones like Hayda, Dunk, and Melonni and make them sexy like Jora.

Also, if you have a req. of Guardian and Protector, then why have a lame elite quest to go along with it?

Oh, and may I add my thought. A PvE-only hero that can bring PvE-only skills, can be any profession and secondary, and even benefits from PvP equipment loadout??? Now that's a hero that would rock the house..

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty
Maybe just replace the models of the wierd ones like Hayda, Dunk, and Melonni and make them sexy like Jora.
HAYDA? I'm sorry, but she's amazing! She's always in my party when I go to dungeons. She's just the team player a team needs.

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

I love Paragons, but I can't stand Hayda. And Morghan annoys me because he uses Warrior stances and emotes. I sure as hell wouldn't mind a third Paragon Hero who isn't completely full of himself and stands like a proper Paragon.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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I have to consider your point invalid. Hayda is the best hero since...the arrival of Anton and Pyre Fierceshot. Hayda may have an annoying personality, but she's different. General Morgahn, it's like fighting along side an old pedofile who's checking out my warrior. Norgu is...fat. The only fat character.

I would just like a triplet of every profession, if that's possible...

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
HAYDA? I'm sorry, but she's amazing! She's always in my party when I go to dungeons. She's just the team player a team needs.

Oh yes, but the thing is, does she look like a woman or no? I say hardly. Oh, and since I'm making another post, maybe I should comment on the fact that Anton, who I'd love to find a useful build for, has such cool armor yet his face is like a retarded Denis the Menace or the little jetson boy. What to do? I'd put a blindfold on him or something to distract from all of this. Maybe I should be the one with the blindfold, though.

If only all heroes looked as cool as Kahmu and Jora.

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

If its not for a mission I dont even use a paragon, maybe i should....anyway for the OP

I would like to see a tengu hero
I would also like 1 more mes,sin etc (like some of the other posters)
The race I want though for a hero would be undead. Just one is fine, a
grasping ghoul or a wraith or something. No real reason other than I think it would look cool.

~the rat~

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
General Morgahn, it's like fighting along side an old pedofile who's checking out my warrior.
Haha! Morghan is old! Old people are pedophiles!

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woop Shotty
Oh yes, but the thing is, does she look like a woman or no? I say hardly. Oh, and since I'm making another post, maybe I should comment on the fact that Anton, who I'd love to find a useful build for, has such cool armor yet his face is like a retarded Denis the Menace or the little jetson boy. What to do? I'd put a blindfold on him or something to distract from all of this. Maybe I should be the one with the blindfold, though.

I would agree that Hayda isn't the best looking, and than Anton is ridiculously ugly and that his armor is simply fantastic. Who's faces are these based off of...? Livia is a sexy necromancer, if I do say so myself.

And yes, Morgahn is a pedofile.

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

Yeah maybe I was a little off with Dennis the Menace and the Jetson kid, but Anton is a strange looking character. If it's really named after Antinous, then it's sad that it's so ugly in comparison.

Just.nl

Just.nl

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

The Netherlands, Noord-Brabant

Mu-Tants [MU]

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I find it an stupid idea...
If you got the right heroes with the right builds their are already 'Elite'...
And why not change armor(or the need cool armor)
You said Adelbern..(If you give Adelbern the same armor as he really wears its cool) and i've got a little idea:

You wear a cape and why your heroes dont wear one?
Maybe pay 1k for each hero for his cape if you want that...
So it maybe looks cooler!
And the henchman they need to give them a 'special' cape what we cant buy at the Cape Seller...

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Hm... let's see... there are 3 heroes of 5 professions, then 2 of the other five...

So any new heroes should be: Mesmer, Ritualist, Assassin, Dervish or Paragon.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Well who needs 3 Sin heroes? I don't even take 1. Ever.

System_Crush

System_Crush

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2006

Tripping in Holland

My guild died :`(

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Well if you can't bring a paragon dazer, a [skill=text]Disrupting Accuracy[/skill] assassin beats a [skill=text]Broad Head Arrow[/skill]ranger, because they don't have a recharge time and work on non-spell skills too.
But other than that, I agree that heroes don't use the best assassin builds right, and the ones they do use correctly are outdone by other professions.

Drakken Breathes Fire

Drakken Breathes Fire

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

They May Be Dead [DEAD]

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it would be pretty awesome if this stayed on topic.

The only thing 'Elite' about these characters is their stature within the story line of Guild Wars.
Perhaps a better name for them would be 'legendary'?

Khasar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Crystal Desert

Guild of Dangerous Surprise[GODS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduin
I didn't type "/signed" because I am not awesome enough to use ingame emotes on a forum: signed.
Wow you're my hero. Way to fight the system you rebel.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Well who needs 3 Sin heroes? I don't even take 1. Ever.
Oh, that one's easy. To tag along with a friend, and make a 8-Sin party, and play fool around a little.

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

For a mesmer "elite" hero I'd like to see Althea's ghost that would be pretty cool. Btw signed, I don't much care about elitism since the eternal blade is pretty much as elitist as you can get.

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drakken Breathes Fire
2 *MUST* have completed that chapter on both Normal and Hardmode.
what would be the point the hole point of heros is to help you through the game and getting it at the very end wouldn't be usefull and its why no one ever relay used the rit cuz he came way to late game. also i would much rather have like some one else noted earlier the other professions that got shaffed with only 2 heros ie para

Solo_uw_ftw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Gods Wanking Amongst Your [MOM]

E/

Nty.. Heroes already ruined the game, and you want more?

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

Since PvE is getting more imbalanced anyway, why not just make the elite heroes be able to use all class skills at once.
No, that's too underbalanced. Why not make your characters be able to do that once you grind 41 meaningless titles?

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solo_uw_ftw
Nty.. Heroes already ruined the game, and you want more?
Quote:
Originally Posted by AuraofMana
Since PvE is getting more imbalanced anyway, why not just make the elite heroes be able to use all class skills at once.
No, that's too underbalanced. Why not make your characters be able to do that once you grind 41 meaningless titles?
If its so bad why the hell do you play and why are you posting here? STFU go play something else. Heros didnt ruin the game retards who want to grief, 1337 dicks that wont let certain proffs in their group, people who bitch if you dont have "My perfect build", people who dont want to play during a mission but talk about how cool the weed they smoked last night was, people who go agro every RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing thing on the map for fun, and any other number of stupid human tricks are what killed this game. I will play with my few friends or H/H. I will not PuG ever again.

so for the OP signed (again) because with more options I have less chance of ever getting into a party with retards.

~the rat~


maybe I should take my meds

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

hmmmm /half-signed
elite heroes sound nice but dont we have enough normal heroeS??

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

until the 7Heroes gets sorted no.

Shadow Spirit

Shadow Spirit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Chicago

your cat eats dog food [pup]

N/E

/Signed for more heroes

Heroes>PUGs

Shriketalon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

We need the other five to complete the set of 30, 3 for each profession. That would allow total equality, and any combination of the 10 profs that you can come up with.

Mesmer- A forgotten, Althea's spirit, one of the druid souls, or similar effects. A ghost hero would be awesome, and would allow lots of synergy in questing with the catacombs. From connecting with the spirits of the lost at the wall, the druid groves, augery rock, the remains of Orr, and other spiritual nodes, the player could find a dead, but still kicking, mesmeric friend.

Ritualist- We've got a random entity from the Mists and a luxon. We could be cheap and use a kurzick, based on their love of rituals and omens, but that's a bit simplistic. Perhaps one of the tengu from Shing Jea, a redeemed naga, or some other creature, if we want exotic, nonhuman species.

Assassin- A Kurzick killer or tengu, most likely. .....Not much to say here.

Paragon- Use one of the Awakened. A mummy would be an awesome addition to round out the bizarre bunch we already carry with us, with plenty of amusing undead humor. The fact that, as a paragon, he has a reason to shout "BRAINS" is merely a bonus.

Dervish- One word. Djinn.

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
until the 7Heroes gets sorted no.
There is nothing to sort. It's not going to happen.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

This sounds like fun, except I'd never be able to complete a campaign in normal and hard mode. roflmao Or so I think.

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

Quote:
If its so bad why the hell do you play and why are you posting here? STFU go play something else. Heros didnt ruin the game retards who want to grief, 1337 dicks that wont let certain proffs in their group, people who bitch if you dont have "My perfect build", people who dont want to play during a mission but talk about how cool the weed they smoked last night was, people who go agro every RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing thing on the map for fun, and any other number of stupid human tricks are what killed this game. I will play with my few friends or H/H. I will not PuG ever again.
You are completely right. Adding more computer-used bots really make this MMORPG shine.

As your "My perfect build", so what are you doing with your heroes? IDK, maybe MAKING YOUR PERFECT BUILD ON THEM?

Don't PuG for all I care, but stop ruining for those of us who do want to play with other people in a MMORPG.