Getting to the Forgemaster (FoW)

WarlordGrievous

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Lore of Mythos

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Hey all,

I'm now working on the mats of my FoW set but I'm looking for advice on how (once I get the mats) to reach the Forgemaster effectively.

Since last (and first) time I've been at the Forgemaster was over 1,5 years ago and lots of things have changed so I'm hoping it'd be easier these days to reach him.

I was wondering whether I could do it with heroes (me and my brother + 6 heroes), or even solo it. or will I just have to PUG it?

Any other strategies about FoW are welcome aswell, ofcourse

Help is appreciated

WarlordGrievous

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Lore of Mythos

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Oh, and I'm trying to achieve this with my Dervish, never went there with him so I'm not sure if there's any specifc build I should run in there (I'm now using a Deep wound spiker variant)

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I PuG it when going to the Forgemaster. I never mention I'm going there though. You mention you wanna go there, your team wont make it. You say you come along for the ride and do whatever, you'll end up there with the team sooner or later.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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Yourself as anything
Your brother as anything
Olias - Spiteful
Talhkora - Word of Heal
Dunkoro - Shield of Deflection with Gift of Health (and other standard prot)
General Morgahn - Song of Restoration
Hayda - Expel Hexes + Command
ANYTHING, possibly Wards, possibly another SS

That will win, pretty easily too. Depending on your/your brothers classes, I could tell you exactly what would work good, but that should do the trick.

Jecht Scye

Jecht Scye

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Lucky Crickets[Luck]

N/Me

PuGs work well. If you tell them you're going for your armor then make sure you let them know you'll stay after you get the armor. You do kindof owe them for helping you get there anyways. Besides, more loot!

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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I never PuG there, heroes are better. You can pick the build, you can tell them where to stand, you can even use their skills for them. Most PuGs can't do that on their own...which makes heroes awesome.

WarlordGrievous

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Lore of Mythos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Yourself as anything
Your brother as anything
Olias - Spiteful
Talhkora - Word of Heal
Dunkoro - Shield of Deflection with Gift of Health (and other standard prot)
General Morgahn - Song of Restoration
Hayda - Expel Hexes + Command
ANYTHING, possibly Wards, possibly another SS

That will win, pretty easily too. Depending on your/your brothers classes, I could tell you exactly what would work good, but that should do the trick.
Thanks I'm definatly going to try that, my brother plays either warrior or dervish, and I play dervish.

I don't usually want to PUG since it's made me pull my hair out before.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

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Well, then both of you go Melandru's Dervishes, with Victorious Sweep, Wearying Strike (sweep?) and Chilling Victory, plus a skill to attack faster (Heart of Fury is good) and you will tear FoW apart. 2x Melandru will be very handy for most of it, since it's so strong.

Hope that helped

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Me and my brother.
6 fire eles, 2 monks, a handful of wards.
The place exploded, and we had... 1 death.

for Dervish and Warrior, just run builds to kill shizzle like DSlash and AoM. Really, FoW is nothing special, and not hard in the slightest.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Me and my brother.
6 fire eles, 2 monks, a handful of wards.
The place exploded, and we had... 1 death.

for Dervish and Warrior, just run builds to kill shizzle like DSlash and AoM. Really, FoW is nothing special, and not hard in the slightest.
= Win.

6 of any damage specced class + 2 monks > PvE

Hell, throw smiting on the monks over protection and then they do damage too.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Maybe a little off-topic, but ArenaNet must add the possibility to enter solo with a full heroes/henchies team to FoW (and all other "elite" places) Specially in some years and after GW2 release.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

Me/

Ursan rampage ftw!

But ehh, a standard 5 man group will work.

Obsidian Tank (D/E or W/E)
SS
Nuker (Renewal or Echo)
Healing Monk (WoH or LoD)
Bonder (kind of optional depending how experienced your team is)

combatchuck

combatchuck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

FOW isn't really very hard. Any competent team can get to the forgemaster with no trouble. The hardest part is probably the spider cave, and that's easy.

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

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Save yourself alot of money and dont get fow? lol
there is infinty styles of armor out there that match other styles and create a unique look for any character.

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorondor Port
Save yourself alot of money and dont get fow? lol
there is infinty styles of armor out there that match other styles and create a unique look for any character.
Jup but not the obbi look :P

Jamison0071

Jamison0071

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Morporkian Mercenaries

N/Me

Went to the Forgemaster yesterday to pick up my first set of FoW, I also went with my brother. He went tank, and we had one SS (me), three monks (I didn't want to take any chances :P) and three SH eles. Got through it easily.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Well, I remember testing FoW with 4 men team (me and 3 heroes) in the free FoW weekend, I did plenty well, it's very possible doing it carefully.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorondor Port
Save yourself alot of money and dont get fow? lol.
LOL! signed.

Scarlett Romanov

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Finding a compotent PUG isn't hard these days. Its quite easy to find one that can make it to the Forgemaster. The key is to make sure that everyone has time to get to forgemaster and knows what they're doing.

Yes, you can get there by using heroes. Since you have a partner, I'd go with this option. :P

My setup:

Healer - Healer's Boon healing build or a build with WoH and maybe some protection spells (Guardian, Protective Spirit).
Bonder - If no human bonder, just get a protection monk. Just about anything will work. If you don't have bonding skills a second healing monk will be fine. Skill wise, Zealous Bendiction and are okay protection spells to use. I haven't really had the time to play with protect elites other than life barrier. XD
SS/BR - SS+BR = handy.
Tank - You (Dervish) - I don't know enough about dervishes to offer solid advice. Sorry.
Ele- Elite of Choice (SF is what most people use) + Meteor Shower atleast. It will keep those power WoH using Menzies down. Don't take fire spells that scatter monsters. (ie. firestorm.)
Ele - ""
Whatever
Whatever

It doesn't much matter what you fill the last few spots with. I'd go with nukers if you're looking to burn through it fast. An interrupt ranger couldn't hurt, but its not necessary. Or if you're really scared take another monk. :P

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

When I got my Ritualist's Obsidian Headwrap, myself and a guildmate formed a group that was specifically intended to get to the Forgemaster and get armour. it worked well, since we all wanted to get the armour and so were all willing to commit to the group. In fact, my Ritualist was able to do it without loosing her Survivor title track.

Sha Noran

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq

Idiot Savants [iQ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Yourself as anything
Your brother as anything
Olias - Spiteful
Talhkora - Word of Heal
Dunkoro - Shield of Deflection with Gift of Health (and other standard prot)
General Morgahn - Song of Restoration
Hayda - Expel Hexes + Command
ANYTHING, possibly Wards, possibly another SS

That will win, pretty easily too. Depending on your/your brothers classes, I could tell you exactly what would work good, but that should do the trick.
Awww Fenix, so defensive. How cute. <3

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
Obsidian Tank (D/E or W/E)
SS
Nuker (Renewal or Echo)
Healing Monk (WoH or LoD)
Bonder (kind of optional depending how experienced your team is)
Oh God, if you actually use an ObsFlesh Warrior with a Bonder in FoW, you're really clueless.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sha Noran
Oh God, if you actually use an ObsFlesh Warrior with a Bonder in FoW, you're really clueless.
I would recommend one for inexperienced parties (some stupid W/E not knowing how to keep aggro) and Hard Mode.

Burning Blade

Burning Blade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Syag

My dervish and my brother's bonder can clear most areas in FOW quite easily. That's how I got him the FOW set too. But it takes quite long. Now if there is an SS, it would make things much much faster.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

SS Necro
Hex Eater/Shatter Hex Mesmer (yessss, a mesmer in pve....boo hissss!)
1 healer's boon heal party spam monk (who knows what emngment means)
1 Prot monk (probably something along the lines of oh say....woh monk with prot?)
1 Warrior setup for...get this....DAMAGE! ZOMG, a non tanking warrior, blasphemy
1 Smiting Monk (this can be another nuker or an R/D with barrage and heart of the holy flame, you choose)
1 Avatar of Balthazar Dervish
1 Glyph of Renewal Nuker


GG FoW.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sha Noran
Awww Fenix, so defensive. How cute. <3



Oh God, if you actually use an ObsFlesh Warrior with a Bonder in FoW, you're really clueless.
Instead of putting down other people's suggestions, you could also actually come up with a usefull teambuild suggestion yourself... but nooooooo...

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
Instead of putting down other people's suggestions, you could also actually come up with a usefull teambuild suggestion yourself... but nooooooo...
Warriors that do damage, because they have the best DPS. Hybrid monks, because they are the most efficient. Other characters that kill stuff, because that makes things go faster.

You don't even need the warriors in FoW if you don't want/have them. 6 things to kill stuff (passive defense included) and some hybrid monks.

Sha Noran

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq

Idiot Savants [iQ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
Instead of putting down other people's suggestions, you could also actually come up with a usefull teambuild suggestion yourself... but nooooooo...
All people do when I tell them how to win is whine that I'm an elitist, so I've stopped making suggestions.

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

My guild went to clearing FoW on Friday night. We went in with 4 ursan, 2 monks, and a WoR rit. Should have taken us an hr or so. Unfort before we beat Rastigen we lost 1 Ursan, then another after getting to forgemaster. By the time we finished all quests, there was 2 ursan and 2 monks. Made for quite a long roll through, but still sad that ursanway can survive. We did use a consumable or 2 along the way as with only 4 of us we had to complete at least 3-4 more quests to complete