When did weaken armour get changed?

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

When did weaken armour get changed to give you cracked armour?I am not sure if this is a good idea for those in post Ascalon with pre armour on and hardly any condition removals around there.

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

wont lower your armor below 60 anyway, so it doesnt affect anyone in early post searing.

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

Anyone else find it ironic that you can get the skill from the first city in Prophecies, and it does absolutely nothing until after you ascend?

khanites

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

KHANITEZ

W/Mo

i got cracked armor in prohecies for necro role but how good is it on monsters to get to deal more damage as opposed to increasing one's DPS

thx

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

If your DPS is armor-based (so you will deal less damage to AL 80 than AL 60), then Cracked Armor is usually better. But if you have armor-ignoring damage or life stealing, more DPS is better.

And even on monks it's good - Cracked armor makes SoR give only +20 armor and it also affects shields.

khanites

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

KHANITEZ

W/Mo

the DPS i am refering to is the regular/power sword attacks. is this a armor based attack or not. I am W/E or W/N. if i was to use curse spells with my W/N will use more energy than the conjur attack spells for my W/E build since as a warrior my energy is limited?

txs

Kynareth Adeus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by khanites
the DPS i am refering to is the regular/power sword attacks. is this a armor based attack or not. I am W/E or W/N. if i was to use curse spells with my W/N will use more energy than the conjur attack spells for my W/E build since as a warrior my energy is limited?

txs Don't use curses as a warrior. You can get away with using conjures, but not really curses. I mean, I'm not throwing out the possibility that there may be a good curse spell for a warrior, but I certainly haven't seen it, and I doubt that this is it.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

1 - Armor rating effects damage received under an equation that means that an increase of x armor points will always equate to a y% reduction in damage* regardless of the AL you started at. So this wouldn't be too bad.

2 - More importantly cracked armor will never drop your AL below 60. Meaning that characters in low level armors are simply immune to its effects.

So the creatures with it are likely to spend 2 seconds casting a spell that does nothing. It might be better for ANET to simply remove it from their skill bars.

*From armor effects sources.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Since the original question was " When did weaken armour get changed to give you cracked armour?"

The answer is, when EotN was released, a couple of skills that used to reduce armor by 20 were modified to just give the condition, now you can't stack them to make that warrior wear paper

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

The change to WA is pretty neutral. In some situations, it's better, in some it's worse. I hadn't realized it's available in Ascalon, that kinda makes it even more useless for a while.

Either way, the spell stinks for PvE.

They really need to make it AoE/adjacent. Because otherwise it simply is never going on any PvE skillbar ever. If it was AoE, it would be a worthy addition to a SS bar.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

It's useful in areas where you're not fighting many enemies, but small groups of powerful ones like Hell's Precipice or vanquishing the 4 man Ascalon areas

Nyktos

Nyktos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Nyktos Guild [win]

Even then, I'd rather take ele secondary and use Shell Shock (or give it to a hero if I'm using my secondary).

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

Why spec into air when a SS is already specced into Curses?

I keep all m N/RTs for Deathpact which is way better

glountz

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by blue.rellik
Why spec into air when a SS is already specced into Curses?

I keep all m N/RTs for Deathpact which is way better Because WA just sucks compared to shell shock. Shell shock cast faster, and deals armor penetrating damage, which is a pretty nice side effect.

IMHO this spell is just useless.

Put it on a 3/4 cast and 3 recharge (and halves the duration of craked armour, it won't stay 17 seconds anyway), so it's a cover condition spell, and we're talking.

Lourens

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

it could be usefull if they capped armor @ 40 instead of 60 and use the skill with epidemic or fevered dreams or something like that