A/Rt Weapon spells

majiger

majiger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

W/R

26 Nov 2007 at 20:53 - 1
Ok so i decided to make a new sin and make him rit 2ndry.
I will only use some weapon spells to help me, so my question is;
what ritualist weapon spells go well with a sin?
I have all campegins so getting the skills wont be a problem.
Also please no posts that say "Weapon spells on a sin are crap" or
"sins dont need to use 2ndry skills" or "a A/Rt is crap"

I was thinking of warmonger's weapon, vital weapon, weapon of aggression, weapon of shadow or nightmare weapon.

Thx a bunch

Yanman.be

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26 Nov 2007 at 20:58 - 2
If you don't really know the answer: Don't bother. Concentrate on your own assassin skills until you are certain you need those.

Splinter Weapon is pretty awesome.

Coloneh

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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26 Nov 2007 at 21:06 - 3
Nightmare Weapon- decent heal
Splinter Weapon- good AoE, better on a caster
Warmonger's Weapon- who needs a mesmer?
Weapon of Aggression- if you dont have critical agility for some reason
Brutal Weapon- +damage = good
Guided Weapon- unblockable is a good thing
Sundering Weapon- nice to be able to use cracked armor
Weapon of Shadow- one of my favorite skills in the game

ensoriki

ensoriki

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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26 Nov 2007 at 21:18 - 4
you could attempt to take 2 weapon spells and alternate between use.
Weapon of shadow and something else, WoS when under fire, the something else for general purposes or for some other form of utility.

Although 1 weapon spell is probably less problematic

Also Don't forget Vital weapon Coloneh =P

horseradish

horseradish

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Join Date: Sep 2007

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26 Nov 2007 at 21:19 - 5
Splinter Weapon ftw.

The effect is like Death Blossom, but you can use another elite skill.

The 5 energy and short recharge allows for a lot of flexibility.

...

Coloneh basically explained it all.

Bobby2

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26 Nov 2007 at 22:14 - 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by horseradish
Splinter Weapon ftw.

The effect is like Death Blossom, but you can use another elite skill. Excuse me, WHAT?

ensoriki

ensoriki

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26 Nov 2007 at 22:17 - 7
He means DB moebius, hes saying you can take another elite (not moebius).

He believes you take moebius so that you can spam your aoe.

Bowstring Badass

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26 Nov 2007 at 23:22 - 8
Gotta remember its Yan he is weird like that.

Bobby2

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27 Nov 2007 at 00:49 - 9
Yan goes by the name 'horseradish' these days?

horseradish

horseradish

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27 Nov 2007 at 00:57 - 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
He means DB moebius, hes saying you can take another elite (not moebius).

He believes you take moebius so that you can spam your aoe. yup. pretty much it.

And i am not Yan. >__>

Coloneh

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27 Nov 2007 at 04:07 - 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
Also Don't forget Vital weapon Coloneh =P why would I want like 700 health? thats not worth a skill slot.

majiger

majiger

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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27 Nov 2007 at 04:52 - 12
hmm ok well thx, that answers that.
Now i have another question in my mind...
What about rit spells any spells that can be comboed into a spike or with Deadly arts spikes?

Jaigoda

Jaigoda

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Join Date: Oct 2007

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27 Nov 2007 at 05:43 - 13
Is this PvE? If so, DA and spikes are all but worthless. You want pressure, preverably AoE, and as little downtime as humanly possible. Critical Axe with the AoE attacks, Critical Scythe, and MBlossom are king in PvE. You'll stumble across an occasional Assassin's Promise build, though usually they're just a quick-recycling spike, and generally have little AoE.

But back on topic, for Rt secondary, you might want some of the afformentioned weapons spells, and maybe Death Pact Signet. Very occasionally you'll see some crap like Spirit Rift or Ancestor's Rage, but otherwise, I wouldn't venture to much into other Rit stuff.

horseradish

horseradish

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27 Nov 2007 at 05:54 - 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by majiger
hmm ok well thx, that answers that.
Now i have another question in my mind...
What about rit spells any spells that can be comboed into a spike or with ly arts spikes? No...and DA Spike sins are a disgrace.

Effective...but a disgrace.

Paddatoochie

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27 Nov 2007 at 06:02 - 15
Personally I would go /rt just for Death Pact signet.. it's godly, and if you carry a 30/-2 set you can rez anyone with basically full energy (great for a team under pressure and a monk has died, and for example if you a killing a boss and he's almost dead, and you just need that monk to come back and cast a couple of prots)

Omniclasm

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27 Nov 2007 at 06:22 - 16
Splinter Weapon + Death Blossom....AoE spike ftw?

ensoriki

ensoriki

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27 Nov 2007 at 12:35 - 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
why would I want like 700 health? thats not worth a skill slot. Im thinking hes talking about Weapon spells in pve.

Where monsters attack those with the lowest HP.

Its great to see the assassin attacking monsters, No monsters are attacking his huge 700 HP, while everyone else dies.

And the monks going, "why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO can't you be like the assassin"

majiger

majiger

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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27 Nov 2007 at 17:17 - 18
Ya you got what i was saying about Vital weapon.

[QUOTE=Jaigoda]Is this PvE? If so, DA and spikes are all but worthless. You
want pressure, preverably AoE, and as little downtime as humanly possible. Critical Axe with the AoE attacks, Critical Scythe, and MBlossom are king in PvE. You'll stumble across an occasional Assassin's Promise build, though usually they're just a quick-recycling spike, and generally have little AoE.
QUOTE]

I get that many other 2nd proff give nice AoE, but im not looking for AoE. I want to see how much dmg i can do to one target using weapon spells or like ancestor's rage, w/e else the rits have...

Also what about comboing a weapon spell and wielder's strike?
Ex. I have about 10 channeling, I use nightmare weapon, then use wielder's strike which with 10channeling, will do about 65 lightning dmg and then also the 3, 37hp steal from nightmare.

Wats your opinion bout that, since its kinda of a spike. I can quickly execute a spike with my dagger skills.

Jaigoda

Jaigoda

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27 Nov 2007 at 17:58 - 19
Look you've got it all wrong. Smart Sins don't spike in PvE. If you really wanna spike, stay in 'Sin (besides maybe Nightmare Wep or Ancestor's Rage), and bring Assassin's Promise. But seriously, it's not a very good idea, pressure's a lot better.

ensoriki

ensoriki

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27 Nov 2007 at 21:03 - 20
You spike in pve, with sins promise and an IAS otherwise wtf you doing?

shadowmage61

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27 Nov 2007 at 22:05 - 21
What the hell do you mean smart sins don't spike in PvE?! If you want someone to do AoE and put pressure on a mob, you get a nuker, not a death blossom sin who has a good chance of getting whomped in the first seconds of the fight. Spike sins are just fine in PvE for singling out important enemies like monks and rits.

ensoriki

ensoriki

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27 Nov 2007 at 22:13 - 22
Spike sins work with Sin's Promise.

Otherwise they are down so long its not funny.

With sins promise an IAS and a shadow step/dash/dark escape

The assassin is able to constantly dance around enemies killing them extremely fast.