Any help would be appreciated!
Beastmaster/pet help!
Moonlit Azure
Well, Ive been brooding over the idea of a beastmaster for pvp and am confused over which pet to use and what build. I currently have a bear and its working fine, but its a little slow. I've been searching for builds also but cant find any.
Any help would be appreciated!
Any help would be appreciated!
lennymon
Here's my suggestion, read one of the 3 other threads on this very same topic further down the page... all you'll need is in those already.
Moonlit Azure
I've looked over those posts and haven't found anything on which pet is best.
lennymon
all pets are = with 3 exceptions:
1: bear is slowest at dealing damage as a result of the 'special' attack brutal mauling which has a slow activation time and no actual effect.
2: some pets have piercing damage and some slashing.
3: the evolution of the pet modifies *base* (autoattack) damage and max health of a pet.
thats it.
well, ok and looks.
1: bear is slowest at dealing damage as a result of the 'special' attack brutal mauling which has a slow activation time and no actual effect.
2: some pets have piercing damage and some slashing.
3: the evolution of the pet modifies *base* (autoattack) damage and max health of a pet.
thats it.
well, ok and looks.
Wakka
It might also be worth to note that even though the bear has the slowest attack speed, its attack Brutal Mauling, is an attack skill, so skills such as...
[skill]Anthem of Disruption[/skill][skill]Anthem of Envy[/skill][skill]Wastrel's Worry[/skill]
Are all effected, and basically any skill that effects the attack skill of an ally
[skill]Anthem of Disruption[/skill][skill]Anthem of Envy[/skill][skill]Wastrel's Worry[/skill]
Are all effected, and basically any skill that effects the attack skill of an ally
Moonlit Azure
Ill probably try get a moa(I think they have the fastest attack speed)
If i had EotN I would work really hard to get a rainbow phoenix, they're awesome.
If i had EotN I would work really hard to get a rainbow phoenix, they're awesome.
Rathcail
*Misinformation removed*
lennymon
Moa's do in fact start off with the fastest attack speed, but by level 20 they are all equal*
*except bear as noted.
*except bear as noted.
Rathcail
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Originally Posted by lennymon
Moa's do in fact start off with the fastest attack speed
Then I'd recommend you go to Wiki and change the information there, if you have tested this.
lennymon
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Originally Posted by Rathcail
Then I'd recommend you go to Wiki and change the information there, if you have tested this.
It's actually been fairly common knowledge among beast masters since Epinephrine and Jenosavel's pet guide. I haven't tested recently as I've not found a single reason to... what with only using level 20 pets for any thing other than levelling pets... although I'd be happy to update the wiki after I do.
The Pet Guide - Found here (the OP may or may not find this usefull, but it's always good to have more resources):
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89491
The Pet Guide - Found here (the OP may or may not find this usefull, but it's always good to have more resources):
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89491
Wakka
Quote:
A note – the Moa/Strider does initially have a higher attack rate than the other pets. This difference in attack speed disappears on leveling, approaching the other pets in speed.
From that guide.I would like to see this tested as to be honest i find it hard to believe lol
Rathcail
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Originally Posted by lennymon
It's actually been fairly common knowledge among beast masters since Epinephrine and Jenosavel's pet guide.
Not too common. No mention in Wiki and not even I knew about it, and I have read that guide several times! Think I have been paying more attention to the attack speed charts than the brief mention of Moas attacking faster on lower levels.
Anyways, my initial tests:
Level 5 Moa, 12 Beast Mastery
I just let it attack the Master of Damage, fairly similar results on three runs.
Level 5 Tiger, 12 Beast Mastery
Clearly lagging behind in damage and was visibly attacking slower. Tested the tiger once more with Call of Haste active (25% faster attacks):
And it gets to same results as the Moa.
I'll do a bit further testing.
Anyways, my initial tests:
Level 5 Moa, 12 Beast Mastery
I just let it attack the Master of Damage, fairly similar results on three runs.
Level 5 Tiger, 12 Beast Mastery
Clearly lagging behind in damage and was visibly attacking slower. Tested the tiger once more with Call of Haste active (25% faster attacks):
And it gets to same results as the Moa.
I'll do a bit further testing.
Rathcail
Level 10 Moa, 12 Beast Mastery:
Level 10 Tiger, 12 Beast Mastery:
Still behind in damage. Again tried once more with Call of Haste active:
This time went past the Moa's damage. So at least at this level the Moa isn't 25% faster in attacks. Perhaps it slows downs as the levels increases, but I won't be testing that.
It is clear that during the unevolved levels at least the Moa is best pick for a new character starting in Prophecies.
Level 10 Tiger, 12 Beast Mastery:
Still behind in damage. Again tried once more with Call of Haste active:
This time went past the Moa's damage. So at least at this level the Moa isn't 25% faster in attacks. Perhaps it slows downs as the levels increases, but I won't be testing that.
It is clear that during the unevolved levels at least the Moa is best pick for a new character starting in Prophecies.
Wakka
So it seems, good work ^^ Think I will test it at level 20 also just to see if it does even out completly.
Epinephrine
Yes, in fact the unevolved Moas used to have a chance of keeping their fast attack rate (was about 1 in 5 from our tests), but that was fixed. At least, we found that we could no longer raise them with the speed untouched, despite many (dozens) of tries, so we figured that it had been changed. We didn't include the information that it was at one time possible to raise level 20 pets with faster attacks, as it no longer seemed relevent.
lennymon
Hee hee, sorry... apparently I was mistaken in the assumption that this was common knowledge. Sorry for my error. This guide was one of the first things that got me hooked on playing rangers wayyyy back when, so I might be a tad overzealous in my assumptions of it's copy number in every home.