AoL build

Irish Battlehound

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

W/Mo

I am looking for advice on an Av of Lyssa build. I am new at elites so go easy. i don't know how to get pics so I have

Faithful Intervention
Eternal Aura
Heart of Fury
Eremites Attack
Avatar of Lyssa
Crippling Sweep
Signet of Pious Light
Rez Sig.

lines are 16 Sycthe (12 +1 +3)
12 Myst (10 +2)
10 Earth
Thanks.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Meh, try:

[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Heart Of Fury[/skill][skill]Eternal Aura[/skill][skill]Avatar Of Lyssa[/skill] + res

I guess you could swap Rush for [skill]Wild Blow[/skill].

And for the pictures you type [ skill] Name Here [/ skill] (without the spaces).

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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Isn't [skill]Pious Haste[/skill] better than Rush for a Dervish, anyway? It costs energy and rends, but it's pretty cheap, can be kept up permanently, and you probably don't need both HoF and increased run speed at the same time...

Might be an issue of taste though, I *have* seen builds using both (P.S. I mean both PH and Rush builds, not builds with both at the same time ). I've just found Pious Haste more helpful in alliance battles...

To the OP - if you can you might want to reconsider rune use - yes 12 mysticism is a good breakpoint but keep in mind that HP is important for a Dervish, and by having a Superior AND a Major rune you're cutting out over 100.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ
Isn't [skill]Pious Haste[/skill] better than Rush for a Dervish, anyway? It costs energy and rends, but it's pretty cheap, can be kept up permanently, and you probably don't need both HoF and increased run speed at the same time... As far as i remember HoF doesn't catch kiters..

Rush can also be kept up permantly mid-battle (pious haste can't really be used mid-battle). It costs adrenline freeing up energy for your other stuff, and doesn't strip HoF.

I always have pious haste for AB too.. but that's for running around, not chasing flee'ers.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[skill]golden fox strike[/skill][skill]fox fangs[/skill][skill]nine tail strike[/skill]

Washi

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

That's what I use. Sometimes I swap HOF for run skill since mystic/eremite are fast enough :P Wild blow is one of the best skills in game, and it benefits from scythe's high max dmg.
[skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]victorious sweep[/skill][skill]Heart Of Fury[/skill][skill]Avatar Of Lyssa[/skill][skill]faithful intervention[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Irish Battlehound

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

W/Mo

Yeah my sec is an ele. I guess I could change to warrior. This was my first char. so I had no idea when I picked ele. It looked cool I guess. thanks for the advice. So I shoud use a major and a minor or two majors. I figured the dps was important and the sup was cheaper. I guess I know why now.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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Ele has a few good skills - sometimes Signet of Lesser Energy is handy - but not for a Lyssa build.

Moonlit Azure

Moonlit Azure

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Its not bad, but I have one question:

Do I get a free 7 day trial?

kaldak

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dont forget about [skill]Radiant Scythe[/skill]! Works great with the lyssa energy boost.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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...yeah. Actually, I've hit things for well over 100 damage with that (generally 60 armor enemies, but it's still a lot).

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] is a must with Avatar of Lyssa.

If you go secondary warrior you can also consider using an axe or sword with a shield. They have faster base attack speed, which will benefit AoL as well.

If you put some points in tactics you get the benefit from the shield as well. You can then use some sword/axe ot tactics attack skills. (things like Jaizhenju strike, pure strike, barbarous slice, silverwing slash, distracting blow)

You could load up with 1/2 sec atatck skills from the warrior skills, but imo you don't really need the fast skills if you're using Heart of Fury.

It's just an alternative to consider.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by odly
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill] is a must with Avatar of Lyssa. Not really, tbh.
[skill]eremite's attack[/skill][skill]mystic sweep[/skill][skill]protector's strike[/skill] are far more reliable than blindly wailing at something with an IAS, and should be on every Lyssa bar.

Darkside

Darkside

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Chantry of Secrets

[Angl]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Not really, tbh.
[skill]eremite's attack[/skill][skill]mystic sweep[/skill][skill]protector's strike[/skill] are far more reliable than blindly wailing at something with an IAS, and should be on every Lyssa bar. I dunno I personally like Aura of Holy Might + Heart of Fury. I get consistently high damage even without the added spike damage from AoL.

GourangaPizza

GourangaPizza

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/W

I think he's talking about PvP, since he put Protector's Strike there to deal high damage against kiting foes.

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GourangaPizza
I think he's talking about PvP, since he put Protector's Strike there to deal high damage against kiting foes. Protector's Strike is there because its a 1/2 second cast time attack, allowing you to more easily time it during your target's skill activations to trigger the +damage from AoL. Besides, its only got a 3 second recharge.

If the point were to bring it for kiters, Bull's Strike would be a way better option. Protector's Strike is only +10 damage at 0 Strength.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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Crippling Victory/Sweep do pretty well against kiters as well.

John Panda

John Panda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

in my house

The Arctic Maruarders [TAM]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
[skill]golden fox strike[/skill][skill]fox fangs[/skill][skill]nine tail strike[/skill] [skill]Wild Strike[/skill] > [skill]Fox Fangs[/skill]

Irish Battlehound

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

W/Mo

I switched my sec to warrior and put in [skill]wild blow[/skill] along with , [skill]Heart of Fury[/skill],[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill], [skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill]. I used [skill]Eternal Aura[/skill] and I was crushing people. Thanks for the advice.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

also get aura of holy might if you can.

Syntonic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

You could always go wind prayers and add in harrier's haste to deal with kiters. Harrier's Grasp also works out well along with it but that one is 10e so you'll have to be careful with e-management. You can even add in a bow and shoot people running away to cripple them. You can also consider whirling charge over heart of fury but I normally take the latter since it's another enchant.

However, if this is for PvE, you'll probably want to stick with earth prayers or something else instead of wind.

Irish Battlehound

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

W/Mo

I was doing the Kodunor Crossroads mish and my AoL derv got killed. I kept running out of energy and by the time [skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill] kicked in, my health was too low to recover. I was thinking of replacing it with [skill]Vital Boon[/skill] and using [skill]Zealous Renewal[/skill]. In addition, I would have Wild Blow, Mystic Sweep and Eremites and HoF. Any thoughts?

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Battlehound
I was doing the Kodunor Crossroads mish and my AoL derv got killed. I kept running out of energy and by the time [skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill] kicked in, my health was too low to recover. I was thinking of replacing it with [skill]Vital Boon[/skill] and using [skill]Zealous Renewal[/skill]. In addition, I would have Wild Blow, Mystic Sweep and Eremites and HoF. Any thoughts? Meh. First rule of Lyssa.. you're a DPS machine. Do not put any healing on a bar that is meant as a killing machine. You kept dieing, blame the monks

Tab

Tab

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2006

Under a bridge

Team Quitter [QQ]

Mo/

Also, its a good idea to swap to a shield and kite when about to die rather than letting them kill you.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

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The only healing I have with AoL is Victorious Sweep... and that's really for the damage rather than the HP.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Battlehound
I was doing the Kodunor Crossroads mish and my AoL derv got killed. I kept running out of energy and by the time [skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill] kicked in, my health was too low to recover. I was thinking of replacing it with [skill]Vital Boon[/skill] and using [skill]Zealous Renewal[/skill]. In addition, I would have Wild Blow, Mystic Sweep and Eremites and HoF. Any thoughts? try not getting killed. its really not that hard in general PvE. kite when you need to. bring decent monks. kill priority targets. dont stand in AoE. interrupt important skills. deaths are acceptable, but if your team starts the downward spiral towards a wipe before your enemies are low enough to die from bleeding something went wrong and you should re-think your team composition and positioning.