Ok so this one is easy. It's writen all over that the recharge time is capped at 20% but PVX propose in alot of builds to get 20% times 4 itmes.
Has this been changed or its still the same ? I used to like 1 handed stuff but im into 20% Enchants these days.
So what is the final word on that ? Any clues guys ?
20%/20% wand + 20%/20% offhand
Gore
CHunterX
Better chances of recharge with 20/20 + 20/20. If the first set doesn't recharge it faster, the next might
I D E L E T E D I
I always thought it was capped at 36% or not? IF not then what CHunterX said
BigDave
20/20 on a wand and offhand is for both Spell Recharge and Casting Time.
you have a 20% chance on each to halve the cast time, and a 20% chance on each to halve the recharge.
What you don't get is a 40% chance. It works out a bit lower because the two 20% chances work separately from each other. I think the figure is 32% chance of one of them triggering and a 4% chance of both triggering. Not sure if a quarter cast time/recharge is possible when they both trigger, there might be a limit to how far you can reduce it. One thing i do know is i've dropped quite a few 1sec Meteor Showers when using Mindbender. Mindbender reduces cast time by 50% which would mean a 2.5 sec MS so the rest of the reduction must have come from my weapon. Can't say i've ever done that without Mindbender though with a 20/20 wand and focus set.
you have a 20% chance on each to halve the cast time, and a 20% chance on each to halve the recharge.
What you don't get is a 40% chance. It works out a bit lower because the two 20% chances work separately from each other. I think the figure is 32% chance of one of them triggering and a 4% chance of both triggering. Not sure if a quarter cast time/recharge is possible when they both trigger, there might be a limit to how far you can reduce it. One thing i do know is i've dropped quite a few 1sec Meteor Showers when using Mindbender. Mindbender reduces cast time by 50% which would mean a 2.5 sec MS so the rest of the reduction must have come from my weapon. Can't say i've ever done that without Mindbender though with a 20/20 wand and focus set.
pumpkin pie
I thought they all cap at 33% except health.
Wish Swiftdeath
you can get 1/8 cast i think. Pretty sure i've rof'ed myself without stopping
Avarre
You can get a dual trigger on your cast mods (1/4 of base time) but not on recharge (capped at 50% from multiple effects). Having more mods increases the likelihood of having at least one trigger.
EPO Bot
I use those on my healing monk and the occasional nearly instant Rez chant is dope when it triggers.
Kale Ironfist
You can drop cast times as much as you want. Only recharge has the 50% cap, except if dropped by more from a single source (eg, Ritual Lord)
6am3 Fana71c
I remember I casted Aegis allmost instantly few times with dual 20/20 prot set. It's a hax <3
Crom The Pale
If you have 2 x 20% recharge you basically get 20% chance of recharge, if that fails you get a second 20% chance if it works on the first the second is ignored.
As for casting you can get both to work giving you 1/4 casting time.
As for casting you can get both to work giving you 1/4 casting time.
YunSooJin
it adds up to 36% chance of one faster recharge/cast proccing, and a 4% chance of both proccing.
so 36% 1/2 casting time or recharge
4% 1/4 casting time
so 36% 1/2 casting time or recharge
4% 1/4 casting time
Savio
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Originally Posted by YunSooJin
it adds up to 36% chance of one faster recharge/cast proccing, and a 4% chance of both proccing.
so 36% 1/2 casting time or recharge 4% 1/4 casting time |
Red Sonya
When you have spells that recharge in 1 or 2 seconds is it really worth it?
YunSooJin
how is it 32% half? That doesn't make sense.
(Chance of first mod) + (Chance of second mod) - (chance of both mods)=
0.2 + 0.2 - 0.04 = 0.36
or simply
0.2 * 1 + 0.2 * (1-0.2) = 0.36 for one of the 20% mods to proc, but not both.
Oh and my post should say 40% recharge.
(Chance of first mod) + (Chance of second mod) - (chance of both mods)=
0.2 + 0.2 - 0.04 = 0.36
or simply
0.2 * 1 + 0.2 * (1-0.2) = 0.36 for one of the 20% mods to proc, but not both.
Oh and my post should say 40% recharge.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by YunSooJin
how is it 32% half? That doesn't make sense.
(Chance of first mod) + (Chance of second mod) - (chance of both mods)= 0.2 + 0.2 - 0.04 = 0.36 or simply 0.2 * 1 + 0.2 * (1-0.2) = 0.36 for one of the 20% mods to proc, but not both. Oh and my post should say 40% recharge. |
0.2 * 0.8 (one trigger) = 0.16
0.8 * 0.2 = 0.16
Combined chance = 32%
0.2 * 0.2 (two trigger) = 4%
0.8 *0.8 (no trigger) = 64%
These are just the figures I've read though.
Yichi
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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c
I remember I casted Aegis allmost instantly few times with dual 20/20 prot set. It's a hax <3
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Originally Posted by Red Sonya
When you have spells that recharge in 1 or 2 seconds is it really worth it?
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Chthon
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Originally Posted by Savio
For casting, it's 32% half, 4% quarter. For recharge it's 36% half.
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Recharge is capped at 50% faster, so, when that 4% chance of quarter triggers, you still only get half. Technically, you might say "32% half, and 4% quarter that gets capped down to half," but the end result is 36% half.
rohara
40/40 is leet when you get a 1/2 sec cast on aegis or a sb/rof where yr body doesn't even move. 