Scythes?

masonthesurfer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

OMIN

D/W

Can anyone recommend any good scythes? I heard god scythes were good, but are there any scythes better than god scythes? I have about 45k to spend on a Scythe, and I'm completely new to the dervish so I know nothing about them. I do not want to buy something and it suck compared to scythes I don't even know about.




- btw, Anyone have one for sale that is good?



~Mason

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

Sundering or vamp scythes are great. And ebon scythes are needed for EDA builds, and icy for GG builds.
+30 health is the best other mob you could have.
15^50 is best inherent, as always.

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Depends on what build you're using.. ^^

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Actually 15^50 is not the best inscription mod for a dervish. You gimp yourself off the jump. 15% while enchanted is the best since, as a dervish, you should always always always be enchanted if you are in combat. Sundering or vamp aren't as good as zealous for general use. Scythe skills tack on plenty of extra damage without the AP or the vamp mods and you want all the energy you can get. +30 is ok but I'd rather have 20% longer enchants unless you run a pump and dump build where you are consistently stripping off enchants, in which case go with +30. With the bank you have to spend on a scythe you can basically build your own and come out better than the god scythes. Unless you just have to have some uber rare skin you can customize the look adn the mods to suit you. Mods by themselves are fairly reasonable to purchase. Also you don't need an ebon scythe for an EDA build , but it helps if you don't want to take up an enchant slot with staggering force. Just make sure to use 15% while enchanted, the inscription is called Guided by Fate. Other than that zealous is probably your best general purpose snathe mod and can be used with all builds.

shrouded^god

shrouded^god

IGN: J C A C H E

Join Date: Sep 2006

843

[Liar]

Yup, Im with str0b0...I defintly prefer the 20% enchant mod, and 15^50/15enchated mod is pretty much the same for the dervish for the reasons stated above. I also prefer the zealous mod, it just seems to snag up extra energy, which sometimes is well needed...

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

zealous 15^50 of enchanting for general use. should probably have a few weapon swaps though. need an ebon for EDA.

MBP

MBP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Arizona

Clanless Fraggers

R/Mo

and vamp for vos

I also run zealous 15% enchanted 20% enchanting for my general builds

zealous 15^50 +30 for my avatar builds

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

D/

Zealous Scythe of Enchanting for general use.
And I'd have Sundering/Vampiric Scythe of Fortitude to swap for popular PvE Melandru builds or just more damage.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassu
Zealous Scythe of Enchanting for general use. Agree wholeheartedly with that. I got a Drokar's Reaper a while back and never regretted it.

I also own a Vampiric Scythe, an Ebon Scythe, and an Icy Scythe.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
Agree wholeheartedly with that. I got a Drokar's Reaper a while back and never regretted it. Same, although i was upset with the skin But oh well, it has the perfect mods.

boarderx

boarderx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[PIG]

i prefer +15% dmg while enchted (since a derv is almost always enchted), and then to go with that a +20% longer enchts

vamp is my other fav, but i also have fire, ice, earth, air, sunder (i think thats all, maybe 1 or 2 more that im missing)

again it all depends on the build too but the bold mods are the ones i use the most

Psyko

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Shinobi Empire [TSE]

id personally go with droknar's reaper. the zealous really does work wonders if you can clump your enemies right

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Its probably cheaper to make your own, plus you get whatever skin you want.

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
Its probably cheaper to make your own, plus you get whatever skin you want. Not really - droks keys sell for about 10k.
But yeah, I'd prefer a gold with a nice skin

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

Easiest max scythe to get that is particularly good is definitely Droknar's Reaper.

If you feel like it, there are also some decent sundering or vampiric ones... from what I read vamp is generally preferable. Ebon scythes are useful for an EDA build if you want one.

And for the record, god scythes range from the pretty good (Dwayna's Grace) to the truly terrible (Balthazar's Fury, not unlike the avatar actually).

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

If you're looking for an easy green to farm for an EDA build, try Buhbal's Grasp (sp?).

Just outside of Nundu Bay. can be 130hp'ed too iirc, so you can use your dervish to farm it

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

You can put a staff of enchanting on weapon swap for high duration enchantments, so you don't take a health penalty from not using a fortitude mod on your primary weapon.

Zealous is often unnecessary in Lyssa and Vow of Strength builds.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

A high energy cap is not energy management

zealous is to dervish as attunement is to elementalist

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Mysticism is enough emgt for a Lyssa build. Consider that Lyssa makes you kill things a lot faster, so it's unlikely that you'll actually burn through all 50+ nrg before the fight is over.

Vow of Strength builds don't require any emgt to run, because they don't use attack skills. It's pretty easy to keep up with 15~20e expenditure every 20+ seconds; zealous is a total waste of a mod there.

Bassu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Cracow, Poland.

D/

Agreed with Burst.
Zealous mod is basically the best for dervishes, but for builds with AoL Vampiric/Sundering would be a better choice. And for VoStr builds Mysticism is enough if you hit, let's say, 9 breakpoint in this attribute - with all those enchantments flying around you should not run out of energy. At least if you wait till you enchantments end, so that you get the energy from it (Remember, if you e.g. cast Mystic Reg while already under Mystic Reg = no energy from Mysticism!)

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

no no no. the opposite! you need more energy managment while using lyssa! with the damage bonus you should be throwing out mystic, eremite's and protector's on recharge all the time! how could mysticysm possibly be enought ot handle that?

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Because you have 50+ nrg and the fight ends.

Throwing those skills out "on recharge" isn't a good policy - you should be reacting to casts, not mindlessly spamming attack skills that have almost no damage bonus on their own. If you're just mashing on those skills as fast as your fat little fingers can manage, yeah, I can see why you'd run out of energy.

Kynareth Adeus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ
If you feel like it, there are also some decent sundering or vampiric ones... from what I read vamp is generally preferable. Ebon scythes are useful for an EDA build if you want one. Actually, that's more for quicker, low damage weapons like swords, daggers, and axes. On, say, a scythe, where a critical hit is much, much higher, the bonus from a sundering hit outweighs vampiric.

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

Really? Interesting.

That means the Myish's probably was a good choice after all, then ...